clinton vs. sanders your vote?- Page 65

[@z5]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 12:13pm

I simply just do not understand how anyone can be so STUPID to vote for her and trust her! She is such a dirty slime bag, and will continue dragging this country down as Obummer has done for the past 7 years.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 12:17pm

Liza?

I don't think calling people stupid is a good way to get them to change their minds...

[BrerBear]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 1:25pm

I would vote for Sanders if he was the nominee, but I sure as hell hope he is not.

 

He will be destroyed in the general election. And the Republicans are (literally) praying that he is the nominee, as he is the best shot they have at getting one of their own troglodytes elected.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 2:11pm

dragging this country down as Obummer has done for the past 7 years.

 

LOL

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 2:50pm

BrerBear said: "I would vote for Sanders if he was the nominee, but I sure as hell hope he is not.

 

 

 

He will be destroyed in the general election. And the Republicans are (literally) praying that he is the nominee, as he is the best shot they have at getting one of their own troglodytes elected."

That myth has been busted.

Polls: Bernie Sanders Outperforms Clinton In General Election Matchups

“Bernie Sanders can’t win the general election” has been a rallying cry of his critics since Sanders entered the presidential primary race last April. In an election where a Republican victory could mean the end of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, a repeal of the Affordable Care Act, the appointment of several conservative Supreme Court Justices, and a good old-fashioned grab bag of random political lunacy, suggesting that Sanders simply can’t beat any Republican in the general election is a powerful—if perhaps cynical—argument. The prospect is so troubling that it’s even got some Sanders supporters anxious about voting for him, which could compel them to vote for Clinton in the primary instead.

There’s one major problem with this line of thinking: The numbers don’t support it.

A New York Times roundup of recent results from the battleground states of Iowa and New Hampshire shows Bernie Sanders outperforming Hillary Clinton among registered voters in hypothetical general-election polling matchups. According to The Times, Sanders would defeat Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio, the three leading Republican candidates, in New Hampshire. In Iowa he leads Trump and Cruz and is tied with Rubio.

The results are due in part to Sanders being “buoyed by the support of independent voters.” Attracting independent voters and bringing new people, such as young voters, to the polls is crucial to winning a general election. While Clinton currently leads Sanders among Democratic voters in the primary race, Sanders excels among young voters and Democrat-leaning independents, in some polls by over 20 percent in each of those demographics, potentially giving him an edge in swing states and the broader general election.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 4:12pm

Liza?

I don't think calling people stupid is a good way to get them to change their minds...

 

I don't know who @z5 is but whoever it is, it's not me. Besides, I would actually go further. I would call anyone who supports any politician with ties to corruption and corporate welfare and lobbyists complete morons/scumbags/murderers/etc. Take your pick. 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 4:19pm

Haven't you guys learned by now that it appears when you say its name?

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 4:36pm

Bingo, PRS.  :) 

 

I've just been reading for the last month or so but don't worry about me returning... I'm far too busy at work these days to waste my time trying to educate you dumbasses on the corruption of D.C. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 4:40pm

Hooray!  Best wishes!  Moving on...

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 4:51pm

Miss you, boo... 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 5:27pm

 

The first two weeks of February will be marked by Bernie Mania, as the media--right, left and center--all inflate the meaning of winning Iowa on 2/1 and New Hampshire on 2/9.

 

But then--surprise, surprise!--she will take Nevada on 2/20 and South Carolina on 2/29 and the 12 states whose primaries fall on Super Tuesday on March 1st. None of those polls showing Bernie ahead show him winning any of the 14 primaries. And then the 11 primaries over the next two weeks--and the polls for all of those states show Hillary winning. 

 

But for some reason, Iowa and New Hampshire are the only ones the media look to. Hmm,,,

 

And then by mid-March, she will be the nominee and the media will say, "How did that happen?"

 

 

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 5:39pm

Aww that sounds just like what people said about Barack Obama vs Hillary Clinton in 2008.

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 5:43pm

 

No, it doesn't.

 

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 6:08pm

Clinton has an awful record, but I used to at least think that she was a masterful politician.

But...her attacks on Sanders over healthcare are not only lies, they're incredibly stupid and aren't going to do her campaign any favors.

She's so desperate she even has Chelsea on the attack!

[South Florida]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 7:49pm

PJ, explain the fact that Bernie does better head to head against Republicans than Clinton in polls.  You are ignoring the revile the right has for her. 

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 9:46pm

Uncle Joe dropped in to say...

 

http://usuncut.com/politics/biden-bernie-sanders-inequality/

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 10:10pm

 

The Right doesn't revile her. The right-wing media fears her, but conservatives don't revile her any longer.

 

The only people who revile her are the white male Left.

 

 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 10:18pm

"Revile" isn't a noun now, is it?  Everything's changing so quickly today.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 1/12/16 at 11:59pm

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 1/13/16 at 6:21am

I know it surprises you PJ, but plenty of people are supporting Sanders because they think he's a better candidate, not because they hate Hillary Clinton. And "the white male left" hating Clinton doesn't explain why she's losing support among women, especially under the age of 40.

Hillary Clinton’s Lead Over Bernie Sanders Slipping in New Poll

As the first nominating contest approaches, Hillary Clinton's commanding lead nationally in the Democratic primary has largely melted away...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/us/politics/hillary-clintons-lead-over-bernie-sanders-slipping-in-new-poll.html?_r=0

Updated On: 1/13/16 at 06:21 AM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/13/16 at 8:35am

 

I'm prepared to live through the media tsunami of January and February, but Hillary will be the nominee come Super Tuesday.

 

 

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 1/13/16 at 12:30pm

[South Florida]

Posted: 1/13/16 at 2:00pm

""Revile" isn't a noun now, is it?  Everything's changing so quickly today."

Oops!

 

[South Florida]

Posted: 1/13/16 at 4:06pm

"But then--surprise, surprise!--she will take Nevada on 2/20 and South Carolina on 2/29 and the 12 states whose primaries fall on Super Tuesday on March 1st. None of those polls showing Bernie ahead show him winning any of the 14 primaries. And then the 11 primaries over the next two weeks--and the polls for all of those states show Hillary winning."

You sound desperate.  No shot for a Bernie momentum thing, impossible?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/13/16 at 4:12pm

 

It's just hype.