11 NEW MUSICALS - WOW

[BETTY22]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 8:43am

It feels like we are in a golden age for new musicals. I remember the year there were so few new musicals, the Tony score category had 2 plays with music nominated. 

Harmony

Days of Wine and Roses

Water for Elephants

Lempicka 

Suffs

The Outsiders

Gutenberg! The Musical!

Here Lies Love

How to Dance in Ohio

The Notebook

Back to the Future
 

WHAT AN AMAZING SEASON!!!!!!!

Updated On: 9/16/23 at 08:43 AM

[OhHiii]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 8:47am

Boop is also rumored to be coming in this Spring. So 12+.

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 9:15am

Also, Once Upon A One More Time.

[OhHiii]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 9:16am

bwayphreak234 said: "Also, Once Upon A One More Time."

Think the OP meant to clarify to original scores. 

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 9:17am

I think we'll pass 2016/17's 13 new musicals. It's so early to already have so many announced and it sounds like there are more that are ready. There's always a few surprises as well. We probably still have around 3 months for something to announce! 

We definitely haven't had a season that feels this packed since that season!

[BroadwaysBroad]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 9:24am

Yay 

don’t forget the wanderer!!!!!

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 9:38am

OhHiii said: "bwayphreak234 said: "Also, Once Upon A One More Time."

Think the OP meant to clarify to original scores."

Ah, makes sense!

[pethian]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 9:57am

It IS impressive how there is, to date, but one jukebox show and it has already closed. Have we turned a corner?

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 10:21am

Also have A Wonderful World and Death Becomes Her having tryouts here in Chicago.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:00am

Wondering if GUTENBERG will be deemed a revival or new work for Tonys purposes. Their advertising is focused on the newness of it, but the material has existed for more than fifteen years and should fall under the "classics" rule (if HEDWIG and BLACKBIRD are revivals...)

Updated On: 9/16/23 at 11:00 AM

[OuttaTowner]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:00am

We may also get Swept Away and In Dreams (though a jukebox score for both).

[OuttaTowner]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:02am

And if Here We Are transfers from the Shed, we can count that too!

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:03am

BroadwaysBroad said: "Yay

don’t forget the wanderer!!!!!"

Is that definitively coming? I haven't heard much from it since I saw it at Paper Mill.

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:12am

Definitely shaping up to be a great season of musicals!

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:37am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Wondering if GUTENBERG will be deemed a revival or new work for Tonys purposes. Their advertising is focused on the newness of it, but the material has existed for more than fifteen years and shouldfall under the "classics" rule (if HEDWIG and BLACKBIRD are revivals...)"

Pretty sure it'll be new. All their advertising is "new musical." So I'd assume they'd grant them that because why not? 

[Falsettolands]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 11:43am

respectfully, it would make very little sense for Gutenberg to be considered a new musical. I can see the arguments for it, but the 2006 production was widely attended and featured prominent names- and it has consistently been produced regionally since then. I'm not certain I'd even like to see this production having already seen it twice before.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 12:10pm

Falsettolands said: "respectfully, it would make very little sense for Gutenberg to be considered a new musical. I can see the arguments for it, but the 2006 production was widely attended and featured prominent names- and it has consistently been produced regionally since then. I'm not certain I'd even like to see this production having already seen it twice before."

It could come down to how much work was done on the written material since then (and I don't know the material well enough to answer that).

I suppose the only thing separating GUTENBERG from HARMONY is that one was licensed & recorded, and the other was not...

[Falsettolands]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 12:20pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Falsettolands said: "respectfully, it would make very little sense for Gutenberg to be considered a new musical. I can see the arguments for it, but the 2006 production was widely attended and featured prominent names- and it has consistently been produced regionally since then. I'm not certain I'd even like to see this production having already seen it twice before."

It could come down to how much work was done on the written material since then (and I don't know the material well enough to answer that).

I suppose the only thing separating GUTENBERG from HARMONY is that one was licensed & recorded, and the other was not..."

I don't really think anything should be changed. The show was and is really excellent as frozen. But hey, maybe they don't feel that way. I could see them punching up the last five minutes (little reveal at the end) for Broadway.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 12:56pm

Respectfully, I'm just going on the show's own marketing materials. They call it a new musical therefore it's 99.9% likely they'll be considered a new musical. 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 1:14pm

RippedMan said: "Respectfully, I'm just going on the show's own marketing materials. They call it a new musical therefore it's 99.9% likely they'll be considered a new musical."

Perhaps less bogus than SHUFFLE ALONG and ONE MAN TWO GOVS trying to position themselves as Revivals, but... what are other examples of the producers and Tonys going in different directions for production categorization (not acting) since the Classics rule has been in place? Pretty rare.

I don't really care what category they go in, to be clear. but if this becomes a "thing," it might benefit the committee to take a look at the language and add a level of specificity.

Updated On: 9/16/23 at 01:14 PM

[Falsettolands]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 1:18pm

right but if I produce Bat Boy on broadway and I promote it as a "new musical" that...doesn't make it a new musical. And it's only a few years older than Gutenberg and has received similar trajectory. So if the committee has any sense they will at least review the language, because it also felt a little murky and odd that Riverside and Crazy was considered a new play last season simply because it was "marketed" as such.

[Kad]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 1:42pm

Given its established production history, I would be surprised if Gutenberg were considered a new musical by the Tonys. Yes, it’s not a show that is very widely known, unlike something like Hedwig or Little Shop, but it’s nevertheless an existing show with a clear history of widespread production. This seems like the first major instance of a “borderline” show- something established but not a bonafide part of the canon- getting a Broadway production so we’ll see.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 1:52pm

Right. But do we not think it would be odd to promote yourself as a new musical and not be put in the new musical category? Like would no one on the Broadway league be like “hey guys, you can’t really promote yourself as a new musical.” 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 2:07pm

I don’t envy the committee that has to decide. Shows take a long time to make it and every trajectory is different.

The only thing that really separates GUT from HLL and HARMONY is that it was licensed. All 3 shows have different producers now than who originated the projects, Harmony has a new director, all gave new stars. But plenty of other shows (plays mainly) get licensed and produced regionally between their premiere production and Bway production.

I guess you could argue that Timbers and the authors were actively trying to get it produced on Bway since 2006 and the choice to license it was a financial one? 

[Kad]

Posted: 9/16/23 at 3:33pm

RippedMan said: "Right. But do we not think it would be odd to promote yourself as a new musical and not be put in the new musical category? Like would no one on the Broadway league be like “hey guys, you can’t really promote yourself as a new musical.”"

I don’t think eligibility should answer to marketing decisions. Distinctions of revival or new work really only matter for awards, anyway. I, personally, think adding some variation of “a new musical” to marketing is generally pointless- I’m not sure it’s any more helpful to ticketbuyers than just indicating it’s a musical.