2019 Tony Snubs — Page 2

Brave Sir Robin2 said: "OKLAHOMA for Best Orchestrations."

Yup this one. I thought they definitely had it in the bag

All the major winners had been predicted by practically everyone. I think best revival of a play was the toss up. In a way I was not as excited to see the program as usual because I felt the predictions were probably going to be spot on.

VotePeron said: "Biggest snub was them capitalizing on Be More Chill, without shouting out the show, or as someone on twitter suggested, incorporated George or Joe. Don't pander to the fanbase if you're just gonna give them the shaft."

I wholeheartedly disagree about any sort of capitalization. If anything they were kindly throwing Be More Chill a bone by giving them a performance of Joe Iconis' Tony-nominated song without them having to spend $200K on a performance slot (especially with the show being a financial disaster right now)

Stroker was fabulous, but I thought Grey was even better.

Bertie Carvel was a fierce, charismatic Rupert Murdoch, and quite deserving, but I was hoping Ben Walker would pull through a win. He was superb in a very difficult role.

BOM said: "Amber gray and Beetlejuice for best scenic design. I hate to be that guy, but Ali got the sympathy vote."

This is the most ignorant thing I've ever seen posted on a board. I would like to see you even attempt to get on that stage 8x a week and do what Ali Stroker does in a wheelchair. Get outta here with your disrespectful (and wrong) opinion. It's not wanted.

bwayobsessed said: "So scenic design: Beetlejuice has a really cool design. The way the house transformed was great. The collaboration between projections and scenic to make the house move was awesome. However whenever we weren’t in the main house set, the design felt compromised. The drops were pretty but when they were on the roof or in the attic it felt less thought through.

Hadestown effectively boiled down their design to two striking looks that transformed brilliantly and simply without getting in the way of their storytelling. The direction, choreography and lighting design all got on board with an worked together to elevate this design. It was perfect for their production. The design for Hadestown was exactly what it needed to be without ever feeling clunky or over produced.

Beetlejuice on the other hand while cool to me often felt clunky and overproduced. That’s a large part of why I feel Hadestown was deserving. (Ps I’m a set designer)"

I couldn't agree more, I think Hadestown easily has the best set this season. So simple yet effective and perfect for this production/vision. However, I did expect Beetlejuice to win just because the Tonys tend to favor big flashy set designs over smaller and simpler sets (see last year when Spongebob won set design, a design which was big and flashy but I really did not care for). So I was pleasantly surprised to see Hadestown pull out the win.

I imagine Amber will have more opportunities. She was also great in the Great Comet. On the merits of their performances, I thought Amber and Ali were both great. I would have been happy with a tie. I don't know which way I would have voted.

Hot Pants said: "While André De Shields is fantastic in Hadestown, I believe Patrick Page was more deserving. He was layered, emotional, terrifying, heartbreaking, and moving in a way that sticks with me much more than De Shields’ performance. Not to mention, from both a character and music standpoint, Page’s role is certainly more difficult to play than De Shields’. Again, I think André De Shields is amazing, but I truly believe that the trophy should’ve gone to Page. I hope this show raises his stock enough that he’ll get another chance to win before too long."

Other than your definition of Page's performance, I disagree with everything you said, but to each their own. I think the right winners won all categories, for a change.

Hamilfan2 said: "bwayobsessed said: "So scenic design: Beetlejuice has a really cool design. The way the house transformed was great. The collaboration between projections and scenic to make the house move was awesome. However whenever we weren’t in the main house set, the design felt compromised. The drops were pretty but when they were on the roof or in the attic it felt less thought through.

Hadestown effectively boiled down their design to two striking looks that transformed brilliantly and simply without getting in the way of their storytelling. The direction, choreography and lighting design all got on board with an worked together to elevate this design. It was perfect for their production. The design for Hadestown was exactly what it needed to be without ever feeling clunky or over produced.

Beetlejuice on the other hand while cool to me often felt clunky and overproduced. That’s a large part of why I feel Hadestown was deserving. (Ps I’m a set designer)"

I couldn't agree more, I think Hadestown easily has the best set this season. So simple yet effective and perfect for this production/vision. However, I did expect Beetlejuice to win just because the Tonys tend to favor big flashy set designs over smaller and simplersets (see last year when Spongebob won set design, a design which was big and flashy but Ireally did not care for). So I was pleasantly surprised to see Hadestown pull out the win."

I think the difficulty here is separating the set design from how the set is used. What I mean by that is, Rachel Chavkin used the space in Hadestown brilliantly and utilized the set she was given perfectly. But in looking at the individual sets themselves, I feel that the nuances and the sheer creativity of the Beetlejuice set(s) was actually a better design, just in a show that didn't use the space nearly as well as Hadestown did (of course, the ultimate goal is that all of the elements work seamlessly together, so this is in no way to fault the designers of Hadestown, but since we live in a society that nitpicks and hands out individual awards for productions, separating the sets from the rest of the production, I feel that Beetlejuice was stronger). Personally, I didn't have any issues with the drops and the attic when I was watching it and felt that it complemented the main house set well. Additionally, throwing in all of the Tim Burton elements while still making an extremely original design worked perfectly.

But really, both of these are fantastic set designs. I'd hardly say Hadestown was undeserving, but personally, I thought Beetlejuice was even stronger (scenically, of course).