I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it
Broadway Star Joined: 5/15/11
Broadway Flash said: "Cabaret winning set was definitely for the theatre renovation. The whole idea of this production is that it’s immersive and its cabaret at the Kit Kat klub even tho it’s not really a set"
Thanks for explaining this really complicated aspect.
Is the pre-show not streaming on Pluto TV? I can't find it.
Broadway Flash said: "I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH, not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it"
If you want an uncensored telecast, then it cannot be on public television! It would have to be on premium streaming. That would piss a lot of people off! You directing it? HAHAHAHA!
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/27/19
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Is the pre-show not streaming on Pluto TV? I can't find it."
They livestreamed it on Pluto's Entertainment Tonight "channel," but I don't think it was retained to watch later. That channel has since reverted back to regular programming.
Dylan Smith4 said: "Broadway Flash said: "I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH, not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it"
If you want an uncensored telecast, then it cannot be on public television! It would have to be on premium streaming. That would piss a lot of people off! You directing it? HAHAHAHA!"
Would you like to point out where he asked for an “uncensored telecast”?
There's a growing disconnect between the Broadway audience and the CBS audience. The average age of a ticketbuyer last year was 40. Meanwhile, on CBS, the MEDIAN viewer-age is 68.
This was not a ceremony for fans of TRACKER or YOUNG SHELDON or NCIS or ELSBETH. The ceremony felt skewed towards viewers in their 40s-and-younger, yet it's put together by people quite a bit older than that. Which kind of leaves us with a show geared towards nobody (one of many issues with last night's awful telecast).
income demographics for CBS vs Tonys are also quite a bit off.
CBS has the Tonys through 2026 and after that point I assume the ceremony will be shopped out to other networks. With cable and linear TV quickly becoming a thing of the past, I'd be fine with it ending up on a streamer where there could be more flexibility about the length.
Matt Rogers said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "Broadway Flash said: "I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH, not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it"
If you want an uncensored telecast, then it cannot be on public television! It would have to be on premium streaming. That would piss a lot of people off! You directing it? HAHAHAHA!"
Would you like to point out where he asked for an “uncensored telecast”?"
Um…”telecast for adults” That’s uncensored!
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/05
I'm not going to lie, I just went with the highlights this year. I gave up on watching awards ceremonies all the way through. There are better ways for me to spend my time, and it all ends up on YouTube.
Swing Joined: 6/17/24
I genuinely enjoyed some of the speeches, the in memoriam was lovely, and it looked visually stunning, largely because of the venue. I also liked how intimate it felt, even from the tv. Sometimes the camera was right up in the presenters faces which was dread. Why was Hillary wearing a kaftan?
My sister lives on the other side of the country and texted me this yesterday afternoon knowing that I would be gearing up to watch the Tony Awards. I have to say that I have watched it 3x now and enjoyed it more than anything that I saw last night.
After the Tony’s contract is up at CBS, it wouldn’t surprise me if they moved the telecast to some obscure streaming service or not televise it at all.
The big problem with Ariana's opening monologue is that it read like a list of Broadway League talking points, and she spoke exclusively in generalities. You NEED a funny person to host. Like with the Oscars, use the opening monologue to build tension and a narrative for viewers at home, and make lots of cutaways to the famous people in the audience! Any awards show that cannot laugh at itself should not exist.
The monologue needs stuff like...
The preciousness needs to end. Any industry that cannot laugh at itself should not exist.
ucjrdude902 said: "I've always loved to watch the marketing change at the theaters following award season. If anyone happens to grab pics of new marquees, posters, etc. I'd love to see them!"
With their LED marquees, I can see the Broadway Theatre flashing “Tony Winner!” Blink and you’ll miss the fine print lol
If you won a Tony, it’s perfectly fair game for a show to advertise Tony Winner on their marquee.
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "The following shows won Best Book and Best Score but did not win Best Musical:
So it has happened not-infrequently, but this is the first time since 2006."
I think it's worth noting that 4 of those 8 Best Musical winners were not eligible for score.
TheGingerBreadMan said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "The following shows won Best Book and Best Score but did not win Best Musical:
So it has happened not-infrequently, but this is the first time since 2006."
I think it's worth noting that 4 of those 8 Best Musical winners were not eligible for score."
I hate to sound like a pedant but because of the insanely dumb rules back then, Ain't Misbehavin, 42nd Street, and Crazy For You were all eligible for Score (seeing as scores like Me and My Girl, Eubie, Tommy, and State Fair were all nominated). Jersey Boys and Fosse were the only two ineligible for score because the rule had changed by the late 90s.
Regardless, it's still a notable stat, and I don't mind some wealth-spreading in the big Tony categories. Makes you wonder how close the vote was between the Best Musical winner and the runner-up.
Thanks Ermengarde - didn't realize that the score rule hadn't been in place that long. I agree with you, that is insanely dumb.
Article in Hollywood Reporter about how the Jay-Z performance was pre-recorded - which most on here already realized.
Was the footage shown on screen during big wins of production teams off stage all waving to the camera also pre-recorded?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/arts/alicia-keys-jay-z-segment-pre-taped-tony-awards-1235925132/
First of all I take back my apology. I looked at the videos of Carole King and Sara Barielles. What they did was NOTHING similar to what Alicia Keys and Jay Z did. NOTHING. Sara sang a TINY bit of the song and Jesse finished it and Carole King only came in at the end to sing a short DUET with Jesse. So yes, it was disgusting what Alicia Keyes did.
As for your comment calling me a racist.... Pathetic. Sad. Troublesome. Wrong. Childish. and RACIST You have no idea what color I am. Whether I am white or Black... YOUR comment is RACIST.
Chorus Member Joined: 12/6/23
CurtainsUpat8 said: "First of all I take back my apology. I looked at the videos of Carole King and Sara Barielles. What they did was NOTHING similar to what Alicia Keys and Jay Z did. NOTHING. Sara sang a TINY bit of the song and Jesse finished it and Carole King only came in at the end to sing a short DUET with Jesse. So yes, it was disgusting what Alicia Keyes did.
As for your comment calling me a racist.... Pathetic. Sad. Troublesome. Wrong. Childish. and RACIST You have no idea what color I am. Whether I am white or Black... YOUR comment is RACIST."
It's your repeated use of the word disgusting that raises eyebrows.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
''I hate to sound like a pedant but because of the insanely dumb rules back then, Ain't Misbehavin, 42nd Street, and Crazy For You were all eligible for Score (seeing as scores like Me and My Girl, Eubie, Tommy, and State Fair were all nominated). ''
I knew that ''Me and My Girl,'' ''Eubie,'' ''Tommy'' and ''State Fair'' (specifically only 4 of its songs) were nominated, and ''Tommy'' even tied with ''Kiss of the Spider Woman'' for Best Score. But I had never heard ''Ain't Misbehavin','' ''42nd Street'' and ''Crazy for You'' were eligible for Best Score. And yet, none of these three actually got nominated for Score.
Updated On: 6/19/24 at 02:37 AM
Peter Barker said: "CurtainsUpat8 said: "First of all I take back my apology. I looked at the videos of Carole King and Sara Barielles. What they did was NOTHING similar to what Alicia Keys and Jay Z did. NOTHING. Sara sang a TINY bit of the song and Jesse finished it and Carole King only came in at the end to sing a short DUET with Jesse. So yes, it was disgusting what Alicia Keyes did.
As for your comment calling me a racist.... Pathetic. Sad. Troublesome. Wrong. Childish. and RACIST You have no idea what color I am. Whether I am white or Black... YOUR comment is RACIST."
It's your repeated use of the word disgusting that raises eyebrows."
Raise your eyebrows all you would like. Why would using the word "disgusting" make me racist? lol The word fits the situation. Two superstars taking away the song of a 21 year old girl on the biggest night of her life... the night she WON the Tony. That is disgusting.
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