2024 Tony Awards
#8502024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 6:15pm
I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it
Dolly80
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/11
#8512024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 6:17pm
Broadway Flash said: "Cabaret winning set was definitely for the theatre renovation. The whole idea of this production is that it’s immersive and its cabaret at the Kit Kat klub even tho it’s not really a set"
Thanks for explaining this really complicated aspect.
#8522024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 6:22pm
Is the pre-show not streaming on Pluto TV? I can't find it.
#8532024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 6:31pm
Broadway Flash said: "I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH, not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it"
If you want an uncensored telecast, then it cannot be on public television! It would have to be on premium streaming. That would piss a lot of people off! You directing it? HAHAHAHA!
MemorableUserName
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/27/19
#8542024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 6:36pm
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Is the pre-show not streaming on Pluto TV? I can't find it."
They livestreamed it on Pluto's Entertainment Tonight "channel," but I don't think it was retained to watch later. That channel has since reverted back to regular programming.
#8552024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 6:37pm
Dylan Smith4 said: "Broadway Flash said: "I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH, not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it"
If you want an uncensored telecast, then it cannot be on public television! It would have to be on premium streaming. That would piss a lot of people off! You directing it? HAHAHAHA!"
Would you like to point out where he asked for an “uncensored telecast”?
#8562024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 7:20pm
There's a growing disconnect between the Broadway audience and the CBS audience. The average age of a ticketbuyer last year was 40. Meanwhile, on CBS, the MEDIAN viewer-age is 68.
This was not a ceremony for fans of TRACKER or YOUNG SHELDON or NCIS or ELSBETH. The ceremony felt skewed towards viewers in their 40s-and-younger, yet it's put together by people quite a bit older than that. Which kind of leaves us with a show geared towards nobody (one of many issues with last night's awful telecast).
income demographics for CBS vs Tonys are also quite a bit off.
CBS has the Tonys through 2026 and after that point I assume the ceremony will be shopped out to other networks. With cable and linear TV quickly becoming a thing of the past, I'd be fine with it ending up on a streamer where there could be more flexibility about the length.
#8572024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 7:25pm
Matt Rogers said: "Dylan Smith4 said: "Broadway Flash said: "I just feel like the Tonys is so PG13. Everything they do is like “this is for you, the theatre kid watching at home.” Like, can we please do a telecast for adults? And make it actually funny and relevant? The best opening number ever was NPH, not just for gays anymore. Very broadway and actually funny with good choreo and grown up. Its better when they actually go there. I also enjoyed Kristin Chenoweth and Alan Cummings too. The Tonys should be begging Stephen Colbert to host next year. And get Lawrence Okeefe to write the songs. I wish I could direct it"
If you want an uncensored telecast, then it cannot be on public television! It would have to be on premium streaming. That would piss a lot of people off! You directing it? HAHAHAHA!"
Would you like to point out where he asked for an “uncensored telecast”?"
Um…”telecast for adults” That’s uncensored!
jimmycurry01
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/05
#8582024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 7:30pm
I'm not going to lie, I just went with the highlights this year. I gave up on watching awards ceremonies all the way through. There are better ways for me to spend my time, and it all ends up on YouTube.
Ensemble1718649471
Swing Joined: 6/17/24
#8602024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 7:47pm
I genuinely enjoyed some of the speeches, the in memoriam was lovely, and it looked visually stunning, largely because of the venue. I also liked how intimate it felt, even from the tv. Sometimes the camera was right up in the presenters faces which was dread. Why was Hillary wearing a kaftan?
#8612024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 8:14pm
My sister lives on the other side of the country and texted me this yesterday afternoon knowing that I would be gearing up to watch the Tony Awards. I have to say that I have watched it 3x now and enjoyed it more than anything that I saw last night.
#8622024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 9:07pm
After the Tony’s contract is up at CBS, it wouldn’t surprise me if they moved the telecast to some obscure streaming service or not televise it at all.
#8632024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 9:28pm
The big problem with Ariana's opening monologue is that it read like a list of Broadway League talking points, and she spoke exclusively in generalities. You NEED a funny person to host. Like with the Oscars, use the opening monologue to build tension and a narrative for viewers at home, and make lots of cutaways to the famous people in the audience! Any awards show that cannot laugh at itself should not exist.
The monologue needs stuff like...
- "The Best Actress race this year includes Sarah Paulson and Rachel McAdams yadda yadda yadda. McAdams, by the way, was the star of The Notebook on screen, and tonight the Broadway production is nominated for 3 awards."
- "There's a scene in Enemy of the People where Jeremy Strong gets buckets of ice thrown at him –– and Logan Roy isn't the one throwing the ice! So tonight if anyone's speeches last too long, we've invited the cast of Enemy of the People to throw ice on you." (as a bonus, have the cast of Enemy of the People reenact the ice-pouring scene with a good sport in the audience)
- Reference Merrily's long road to success. Make a time travel joke about Merrily and Back to the Future. Make a joke about the stars of Harry Potter and Fantastic Beasts being nominated, and for bonus points make a joke how it's good they gave JK Rowling a Tony BEFORE they knew she was a transphobe. This is the time to say the things that aren't on the approved talking points for shows.
- Use the monologue to highlight some of the nominated plays and musicals and the people involved with them IN A FUN WAY. (This also means some shows don't get mentioned. That's fine.)
- Highlight some of the Broadway debuts, whether they're famous (Rachel McAdams) or not (Maleah Joi Moon).
- Lean into the unexpected. Jimmy Kimmel ended last year's Oscar monologue with a salute to the people who went on strike and the teamsters whose contract would be up soon. The crowd went wild at it was a powerful moment at the end of his funny monologue.
- Make deep-cut human-interest references (not about diversity because that makes everyone's eyes glaze over). Shout out the creatives with multiple nominations this year (like Dede Ayite and Justin Levine who each had 3). Mention the recent Equity election and how Brooke Shields won with less than X% of voter turnout. Explain the coproducers-on-risers situation. Reference the new venue. Mention that it was the year of the prop car and have a little parade of them. Mention how Amy Ryan stepped in with days notice and is now nominated.
- You'd think they learned from past years but she needs to speak before she dances. She's too out of breath and sleepy-looking after dancing.
- That production design was awful. I know it's a smaller space but at least TRY to be inventive.
The preciousness needs to end. Any industry that cannot laugh at itself should not exist.
#8642024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 10:23pm
ucjrdude902 said: "I've always loved to watch the marketing change at the theaters following award season. If anyone happens to grab pics of new marquees, posters, etc. I'd love to see them!"
With their LED marquees, I can see the Broadway Theatre flashing “Tony Winner!” Blink and you’ll miss the fine print lol
#8652024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 10:41pm
If you won a Tony, it’s perfectly fair game for a show to advertise Tony Winner on their marquee.
#8662024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/17/24 at 11:51pm
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "The following shows won Best Book and Best Score but did not win Best Musical:
- The Drowsy Chaperone(Jersey Boys won Musical)
- Urinetown(Millie won Musical)
- Parade(Fosse won Musical)
- Ragtime(Lion King won Musical)
- Falsettos(Crazy For You won Musical)
- Into the Woods(Phantom won Musical)
- Woman of the Year(42nd Street won Musical)
- On The 20th Century(Ain't Misbehavin' won Musical)
So it has happened not-infrequently, but this is the first time since 2006."
I think it's worth noting that 4 of those 8 Best Musical winners were not eligible for score.
#8672024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/18/24 at 12:27am
TheGingerBreadMan said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "The following shows won Best Book and Best Score but did not win Best Musical:
- The Drowsy Chaperone(Jersey Boys won Musical)
- Urinetown(Millie won Musical)
- Parade(Fosse won Musical)
- Ragtime(Lion King won Musical)
- Falsettos(Crazy For You won Musical)
- Into the Woods(Phantom won Musical)
- Woman of the Year(42nd Street won Musical)
- On The 20th Century(Ain't Misbehavin' won Musical)
So it has happened not-infrequently, but this is the first time since 2006."
I think it's worth noting that 4 of those 8 Best Musical winners were not eligible for score."
I hate to sound like a pedant but because of the insanely dumb rules back then, Ain't Misbehavin, 42nd Street, and Crazy For You were all eligible for Score (seeing as scores like Me and My Girl, Eubie, Tommy, and State Fair were all nominated). Jersey Boys and Fosse were the only two ineligible for score because the rule had changed by the late 90s.
Regardless, it's still a notable stat, and I don't mind some wealth-spreading in the big Tony categories. Makes you wonder how close the vote was between the Best Musical winner and the runner-up.
#8682024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/18/24 at 12:33am
Thanks Ermengarde - didn't realize that the score rule hadn't been in place that long. I agree with you, that is insanely dumb.
#8702024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/18/24 at 7:56am
Article in Hollywood Reporter about how the Jay-Z performance was pre-recorded - which most on here already realized.
Was the footage shown on screen during big wins of production teams off stage all waving to the camera also pre-recorded?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/arts/alicia-keys-jay-z-segment-pre-taped-tony-awards-1235925132/
#8712024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/18/24 at 10:21pm
First of all I take back my apology. I looked at the videos of Carole King and Sara Barielles. What they did was NOTHING similar to what Alicia Keys and Jay Z did. NOTHING. Sara sang a TINY bit of the song and Jesse finished it and Carole King only came in at the end to sing a short DUET with Jesse. So yes, it was disgusting what Alicia Keyes did.
As for your comment calling me a racist.... Pathetic. Sad. Troublesome. Wrong. Childish. and RACIST You have no idea what color I am. Whether I am white or Black... YOUR comment is RACIST.
Peter Barker
Chorus Member Joined: 12/6/23
#8722024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/19/24 at 1:16am
CurtainsUpat8 said: "First of all I take back my apology. I looked at the videos of Carole King and Sara Barielles. What they did was NOTHING similar to what Alicia Keys and Jay Z did. NOTHING. Sara sang a TINY bit of the song and Jesse finished it and Carole King only came in at the end to sing a short DUET with Jesse. So yes, it was disgusting what Alicia Keyes did.
As for your comment calling me a racist.... Pathetic. Sad. Troublesome. Wrong. Childish. and RACIST You have no idea what color I am. Whether I am white or Black... YOUR comment is RACIST."
It's your repeated use of the word disgusting that raises eyebrows.
Wayman_Wong
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#8732024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/19/24 at 2:37am
''I hate to sound like a pedant but because of the insanely dumb rules back then, Ain't Misbehavin, 42nd Street, and Crazy For You were all eligible for Score (seeing as scores like Me and My Girl, Eubie, Tommy, and State Fair were all nominated). ''
I knew that ''Me and My Girl,'' ''Eubie,'' ''Tommy'' and ''State Fair'' (specifically only 4 of its songs) were nominated, and ''Tommy'' even tied with ''Kiss of the Spider Woman'' for Best Score. But I had never heard ''Ain't Misbehavin','' ''42nd Street'' and ''Crazy for You'' were eligible for Best Score. And yet, none of these three actually got nominated for Score.
Updated On: 6/19/24 at 02:37 AM
#8742024 Tony Awards
Posted: 6/19/24 at 8:08am
Peter Barker said: "CurtainsUpat8 said: "First of all I take back my apology. I looked at the videos of Carole King and Sara Barielles. What they did was NOTHING similar to what Alicia Keys and Jay Z did. NOTHING. Sara sang a TINY bit of the song and Jesse finished it and Carole King only came in at the end to sing a short DUET with Jesse. So yes, it was disgusting what Alicia Keyes did.
As for your comment calling me a racist.... Pathetic. Sad. Troublesome. Wrong. Childish. and RACIST You have no idea what color I am. Whether I am white or Black... YOUR comment is RACIST."
It's your repeated use of the word disgusting that raises eyebrows."
Raise your eyebrows all you would like. Why would using the word "disgusting" make me racist? lol The word fits the situation. Two superstars taking away the song of a 21 year old girl on the biggest night of her life... the night she WON the Tony. That is disgusting.
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