AUDRA GYPSY Reviews- Page 34

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:30pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "binau said: "OharaFosseWolfe888, if it was Kelli O'Hara or Marin Mazzie on that stage right now how do you think people would be talking about their performances?"

I don't know, it is irrelevant to me, they aren't Black so while vocal stylingsmay besimilar, it's not something I can compare in those terms. There was an earlier suggestion of Heather Hedley or Tonya Pinkins, which is applicable only in that there are both Black women with very different voices from Audra. Still not really comparable in terms of the ACTING."

 

Audra is certainly one of our best actresses in both musicals and plays but Heather and Tonya are damn fine actresses. 

[DAME]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:38pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: 

Not one mention of possible unconscious bias. L.O.L Keep proving me right.Honey, I'm responding right now during break from a workshop rehearsal for a show you will undoubtedly pay to see next season...bwahahaha. I can multi-task.

To say it's not that deep is to minimize Black excellence in our art form.You all have such keyboard courage.I guarantee you wouldn't say half the things you say on this boardto Audra or George in their face. I know you wouldn't say to a Black person in theirface, it's not that deep...Lordy that lol. It gives me great joy, to light y'all up like this, because most responses are dismissive and not engaging which further lets me know...well you know...."

Rubbish

[Kad]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:40pm

The thought of a Caroline or Change-era Tonya Pinkins doing Mama Rose is exhilarating.

[OharaFosseWolfe888]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:41pm

TotallyEffed said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "binau said: "OharaFosseWolfe888, if it was Kelli O'Hara or Marin Mazzie on that stage right now how do you think people would be talking about their performances?"

I don't know, it is irrelevant to me, they aren't Black so while vocal stylingsmay besimilar, it's not something I can compare in those terms. There was an earlier suggestion of Heather Hedley or Tonya Pinkins, which is applicable only in that there are both Black women with very different voices from Audra. Still not really comparable in terms of the ACTING."



Audra is certainly one of our best actresses in both musicals and plays but Heather and Tonya are damn fine actresses."

Absolutely agreed, they are damn fine actresses who I am proud to call one friend and mentor and the other colleague.

 

[DAME]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:41pm

Kad said: "The thought of a Caroline or Change-era Tonya Pinkins doing Mama Rose is exhilarating."

Now.. that sounds thrilling. 

[DAME]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:43pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "Absolutely agreed, they are damn fine actresses who I am proud to call one friend and mentor and the other colleague."

 

Your begining to sound like that Boop troll. 

 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:47pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "Dancingthrulife2 said: "Do take into consideration that some here have the ulterior motive (mods included) to support a likely proven Trump supporter at the cost of Audra."

Oh right, the likelyTrump supporter, who albeit belts two songs in her show very well, has "meh"comedic timing, and essentially giving a caricature performance of herself to some degreebut couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag standing next to either of the women in her category across 44th street. Much less the onewho has 6 Tonys in every acting category. You right, totally forgot about that. But don't call that racism or bias, the yt elders and daddy queens will FLIP round here."

 

With each of your posts, you sound more ridiculous. But congrats on the new "trolling" technique.

 

[OharaFosseWolfe888]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 2:47pm

DAME said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "Absolutely agreed, they are damn fine actresses who I am proud to call one friend and mentor and the other colleague."


Your begining to sound like that Boop troll."

I don't know her.... but why does me stating how I know them amount to trolling? 

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:02pm

I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpreting that correctly?

 

[DAME]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:04pm

Huss417 said: "I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpretingthat correctly?

"

Yeah Huss.. that’s about it.  Hope you have a nice weekend.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:05pm

Huss417 said: "I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpretingthat correctly?

"

yes but also there is a conspiracy to elevate Scherzinger by bringing down Audra. It's all totally normal over here.

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:11pm

Kad said: "Huss417 said: "I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpretingthat correctly?

"

yes but also there is a conspiracy to elevate Scherzinger by bringing down Audra. It's all totally normal over here."

It gets more and more like soap operas on here. You can miss a month but still be able to pick up where you left off.

I guess the Scherzinger bringing down Audra must be to offset the incessant Audra bringing down Scherzinger posts? LOL

[DAME]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:12pm

Huss417 said: "Kad said: "Huss417 said: "I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpretingthat correctly?

"

yes but also there is a conspiracy to elevate Scherzinger by bringing down Audra. It's all totally normal over here."

It gets more and more like soap operas on here. You can miss a month but still be able to pick up where you left off.

I guess the Scherzinger bringing down Audra must be to offset the incessant Audra bringing down Scherzinger posts? LOL"

I must have missed that.  But maybe it is spread thru some other threads?  

[Papi2013]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:17pm

Huss417 said: "Kad said: "Huss417 said: "I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpretingthat correctly?

"

yes but also there is a conspiracy to elevate Scherzinger by bringing down Audra. It's all totally normal over here."

It gets more and more like soap operas on here. You can miss a month but still be able to pick up where you left off.

I guess the Scherzinger bringing down Audra must be to offset the incessant Audra bringing down Scherzinger posts? LOL"

And if you pay attention it really does sound like mrshowbiz90210 has assumed another identity for themselves. 

[OharaFosseWolfe888]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:29pm

With each of your posts, you sound more ridiculous. But congrats on the new "trolling" technique."

That's two accusations of trolling...without actual engagement of my comments...if I actually wanted to troll this thread, I would copy it verbatim and make it a scene ala Eureka Day LOL

NO FOR THE LAST TIME, not liking Audra's performance alone is not racist. Why won't yall use the word unconscious bias? I never said that. 

 

[pagereynolds]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:31pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "With each of your posts, you sound more ridiculous. But congrats on the new "trolling" technique."

That's two accusations of trolling...without actual engagement of my comments...if I actually wanted to troll this thread, I would copy it verbatim and make it a scene ala Eureka Day LOL

NO FOR THE LAST TIME, not liking Audra's performance alone is not racist. Why won't yall use the word unconscious bias? I never said that.

"

Maybe you mean not liking her performance isn't inherently racist. Saying she isn't a good fit because she doesn't sound like every white woman who has played the part is certainly a little racist.

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:33pm

DAME said: "Huss417 said: "I was trying to catch up on this thread but it sort of went off the rails. Is the new gist if I didnt' like Audra in the role I am now considered a racist? Am I interpretingthat correctly?

"

Yeah Huss.. that’s about it. Hope you have a nice weekend."

Thanks Dame. You as well. Also I think you might be onto something with the Boop reference. 

Updated On: 5/16/25 at 03:33 PM

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:37pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "SmokeyLady said: "TotallyEffed said: "For me the best comparison is Sutton Foster in The Music Man. One of our best performers cast in a role that just simply didn’t allow her voice to soar. Talented as they both as, their voice types were fighting against their performances the whole show.It’s hard not to imagine if Kelli had been cast instead of Sutton or Heather instead of Audra. Their voices would have fit the scores like a glove."

This is exactly what came to mind for me when I saw this veryrecently. Just not a good fit. And it is just a poorly conceived production. The rest of what is being written on this thread about critical race theory and racism and all theother attacks at peoplle that just did not like it .. is just a lot of blah blah blah. Someone has too much time on their hands. It just wasn't good. It is not that deep. Lordy."

Not one mention of possible unconscious bias. L.O.L Keep proving me right.Honey, I'm responding right now during break from a workshop rehearsal for a show you will undoubtedly pay to see next season...bwahahaha. I can multi-task.

To say it's not that deep is to minimize Black excellence in our art form.You all have such keyboard courage.I guarantee you wouldn't say half the things you say on this boardto Audra or George in their face. I know you wouldn't say to a Black person in theirface, it's not that deep...Lordy that lol. It gives me great joy, to light y'all up like this, because most responses are dismissive and not engaging which further lets me know...well you know...."

Gurl, you a classic HAM sandwich on a cold plate.

HAM = HOT A$$ MESS 

You meltin' boo... you meltin'....

[Huss417]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 3:38pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "With each of your posts, you sound more ridiculous. But congrats on the new "trolling" technique."

That's two accusations of trolling...without actual engagement of my comments...if I actually wanted to troll this thread, I would copy it verbatim and make it a scene ala Eureka Day LOL

NO FOR THE LAST TIME, not liking Audra's performance alone is not racist. Why won't yall use the word unconscious bias? I never said that.

Because I am conscious of the fact that I don't have an unconscious bias. Just because you think we do doesn't mean it's a fact.
"

 

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 4:46pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "joevitus said: ""Black assfact" either means "My personal opinion, and I happen to be Black" or suggests only Black people can accuately evaluate a Black person's performance."

Well yes to some extent, that's why newspapers started to send Black critics to review Black work L.O.L"

If you don't realize how messed up that outlook is, I don't know what to tell you...

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 4:56pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "Dancingthrulife2 said: "Do take into consideration that some here have the ulterior motive (mods included) to support a likely proven Trump supporter at the cost of Audra."

Oh right, the likelyTrump supporter, who albeit belts two songs in her show very well, has "meh"comedic timing, and essentially giving a caricature performance of herself to some degreebut couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag standing next to either of the women in her category across 44th street. Much less the onewho has 6 Tonys in every acting category. You right, totally forgot about that. But don't call that racism or bias, the yt elders and daddy queens will FLIP round here."

Following your own rule of aesthetics, it's much more likely that not being Filipino, Ukrainian, Russian, or Native Hawaiian, you simply aren't in a position to effectively evaluate her performance. It's a Filipino, Ukrainian, Russian, Native Hawaiian assfact.

[pagereynolds]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 4:58pm

joevitus said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "joevitus said: ""Black assfact" either means "My personal opinion, and I happen to be Black" or suggests only Black people can accuately evaluate a Black person's performance."

Well yes to some extent, that's why newspapers started to send Black critics to review Black work L.O.L"

If you don't realize how messed up that outlook is, I don't know what to tell you..."

I actually think you're a little off-point here. Part of the reason for the push for diverse theater critics is EXACTLY because white critics have done a terrible job reviewing the work of Black actors, writers. They insert all kinds of unfair biases into their reviews. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 5:19pm

pagereynolds said: "joevitus said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "joevitus said: ""Black assfact" either means "My personal opinion, and I happen to be Black" or suggests only Black people can accuately evaluate a Black person's performance."

Well yes to some extent, that's why newspapers started to send Black critics to review Black work L.O.L"

If you don't realize how messed up that outlook is, I don't know what to tell you..."

I actually think you're a little off-point here. Part of the reason for the push for diverse theater critics is EXACTLY because white critics have done a terrible job reviewing the work of Black actors, writers. They insert all kinds of unfair biases into their reviews."

To tell anyone here that they cannot evaluate a performance on the basis of their skinned color is absolutely unacceptable. Imagine anyone trying to tell a Black commentor that they don't have the tools to evaluate Sutten Foster or that anyone who isn't Hispanic could not possibly opine with any authority on the talent of Chita Rivera is insane. 

[DAME]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 5:19pm

Critics?  Who cares about critics?  I care about what we felt as audience members.  And for me.. I felt nothing.  

[Papi2013]

Posted: 5/16/25 at 5:24pm

I felt exhausted and hungry.