Adam Pascal sounds off on the haters!- Page 12

[jv92]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:02pm

So someone responded to Pascal's "rant" in a way he didn't want to hear, by defining bullying, etc., and Pascal tears the guy a new one by calling him a "douche", "sh*t", etc.? Oh, that's very tasteful, and classy. May I use my favorite word again? Hack.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:05pm

Wow Adam Pascal needs to stop or he's going to start coming off like Amy and Sami from Amy's Baking Company.

[broadway guy]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:09pm

"So someone responded to Pascal's "rant" in a way he didn't want to hear, by defining bullying, etc., and Pascal tears the guy a new one by calling him a "douche", "sh*t", etc.? Oh, that's very tasteful, and classy. May I use my favorite word again? Hack"

Tisk Tisk, this is just sad now on Adam's Part. He is a Broadway star and shouldn't be trolling on facebook. Very unclassy.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:18pm

I wonder if poster jennmurale knows Pascal? They posted this in the thread that was the catalyst for all this drama:

I've been lucky enough to see Adam Pascal in every single show he's done on Broadway (some shows multiple times) as well as seen him in concert. He as always been amazing and professional. He had an off moment at the time you saw him. It happens to actors just like everyone else. Try getting up on stage and do what these men and women do 8x a week. I'm sure you'd have a flub from time to time.

Updated On: 6/6/13 at 12:18 PM

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:28pm

Jane2 - I think Winston understands all performers are human. I think it is reasonable to assume that this type of thing has happened to Pascal and other performers more than once in their life. Due to that it is reasonable to assume that when your mind goes blank that you can do something beside silence to minimize the mistake if you are a experienced Broadway performer.

It is totally different but I will mention it just for the heck of it. When my daughters were teenagers, they were dancing in a dance competition. Their group was doing the dance and all of a sudden the recorded music stopped. All of the dancers continued to dance until the very end without music and got wild applause when it ended. They were taught from their teachers that no matter what happens to continue to dance until the end. I have no experience with acting but I would think in acting schools they would discuss what to do when your mind goes blank on a line or lines and how to recover quickly.

[finebydesign]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:28pm

I'll put this out there. I've worked personally with man and he was fantastic at the time. I actually don't remember his making any mistakes in the run of that show. I'm sure he did but nothing note-worthy.

Now my issue is his reaction to the whole thing.

[Playbilly]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:31pm

Adam needs to change professions. Can't handle the pressure.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:32pm

finebydesign - I saw Pascal in "Rent" and have seen him in concert and enjoyed his performance. He played a small theatre in Charlotte NC several years ago and after the concert set up a table to sign cd/posters etc and took pictures with everybody on line. He was quite nice and that is why I am surprised/disappointed about his comments.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:34pm

I personally haven't had the time to read this entire thread, nor do I care to at this point. I think the last 2 pages and the original post summed it all up for me.

So, Adam pascal had an off night, big deal. We all have an off day or night and everyone makes mistakes.

Winston only stated his opinion as was his right. He wasn't disrespectful at all.

Mr. Pascal should have responded more tactfully or not at all. His response was purely based on emotion. Winston didn't merit the accusations Pascal was doling out. However I think he may have been addressing the board in general.

[winston89]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:34pm

Everythingtaboo

I'm not using this forum as a standard for writing. I did say that he made a mistake and felt that he could have done better. Something that there is nothing wrong with saying. I never said that he was an awful human being for dealing with it the way that he did, or anything of that nature. I made a pretty bland comment and felt that Pascal overreacted. I will however say that I have one gripe with the argument of "why don't I come to where you work
and give you grief for doing something wrong." And that is this. That there are some jobs out there, performer included, that by nature open yourself up to be criticized. I feel that if you take a job that puts you in the public eye, you need to take what comes with it both good and bad.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:36pm

Winston89, if anyone took the time to read your original post they would instantly know that you were in no way, shape or form disrespectful. You stated your opinion as was your right.

Updated On: 6/6/13 at 12:36 PM

[Becky]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:37pm

I love what you wrote Reggie.

Over the years, I've heard about comments made from my students' parents re: things that they don't have all the information about (and it makes my blood boil.) However, because of my position (and expectation of professionalism), I can't comment on them or defend myself in the way I'd like. It does feel like bullying at times because my hands are tied at being able to have a discussion with those people about it and explain, give them information they don't have, justify decisions, etc... I actually hesitate to use the word bullying, but there really isn't another word that fits (and yes, I understand the term is probably an extreme description). If there were a "parent" message board and I read comments about my job, I would have similar reactions to Adam's I'm sure. They would be able to post about me and no one would know who was saying it - but I couldn't reply without controversy. Just because I chose my profession doesn't mean I should be expected to just have a thick skin and stop complaining. It is what it is. Basically I get the frustration on something like that, and can relate. And to say it's "unclassy" for him to read the board about his profession and performance? Really? Hmmmm....

Of course people have the right to share opinions/thoughts here -but I'm a little surprised at the backlash on Adam for sharing his thoughts. He's always been an honest guy that speaks his mind since the beginning, and I prefer that. The rules shouldn't be different because his identity is public.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:38pm

I hope Adam and the other ranters will finally relax and realize this whole thing is so ridiculously unimportant. Especially when compared to the heinous Tony injustices bound to occur on Sunday when thousands of drama majors will get hysterical over their personal favorites not winning whatever and how it's all just so unfair. Then they will have to bash the winners they used to like who they will no longer like because regular people will start to know them and they didn't give the expected acceptance speech or perhaps they smiled showing just a bit too much teeth. Or maybe their choice of clothing is simply too direspectful for them to have earned a previously determined award. Or they have to light candles because of the LOCK that became a SNUB or an UPSET.

These are the things that are gravely and deathly serious. Friendships will crack. Families will be ripped apart. Brother against brother. Sister against sister. Brother against sister. Sister against brother. Two gay men against seventeen lesbians. Tween against tween. Gay divorces and mediation over the Southern Belle doll collection custody. The big stuff.

Not going up on lyrics in one performance and getting mad at people who point it out.

Updated On: 6/6/13 at 12:38 PM

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:40pm

Winston - I just went back and looked at your original post, it had three paragraphs. The first one was regarding the mistake by Pascal and his inability to cover that mistake well. The second paragraph was mainly about the cast sleepwalking thru the show and you stating that maybe some of them have been in their roles too long and a shakeup is needed. The third and final paragraph was about a crew member being visible to you in the audience which should not happen and you giving kudos to ushers for stopping a person from filming the show. I did this to prove a point that if you really where trying to "bully" Mr. Pascal, you would have dedicated the entire post to his mistake that night and not just the first paragraph IMO.

Updated On: 6/6/13 at 12:40 PM

[eperkins]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 12:42pm

Adam should start posting here. He'd be right at home.

[Craww]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 1:14pm

I've had two experiences where a performer saw something critical I wrote about them on the internet, and they responded to it. The first time was 5 years ago with Adam Pascal. He went nuts. Deleted his discussion boards, posted multiple blogs calling me out by name, incensing his fanbase into such a frenzy that some of them cyberstalked me.

The other time was a year and a half ago. I said something about Patrick Stump from Fall Out Boy in a livejournal community. I said something he'd said in an interview was egotistical and dismissive to some of his fans. This is what he said:

I feel like I really offended some people and I’d like for you to tell them I’m sorry. One word stuck with me “Egotistical.” That hurt so bad. I can’t say it’s wholly undeserved; I feel like all artists are egotistical in their own way (I’ve always felt art is predicated on an idea…if only a subconscious one…that one knows how to express something better than someone else does). I’m one of those self-loathing/self-depricating artists. Low self-esteem, while often mistaken for something else, is just a popular form of egotism. It’s something I work hard at avoiding…but my kneejerk is to always tear down myself or my work and that has the collateral effect of belittling anyone for ever believing in either you or said work. The paradox is you don’t necessarily accept deep down that anyone does believe in you. I guess sometimes the humility I ethically believe in and the self-loathing I’m prone to parade around as each other and confuse simple issues.

The difference is night and day. Not only did he treat me (and the other people who said negative things) with respect, but it gave me better perspective on the performer's side of things. I felt badly for making him feel badly. However, I wouldn't take back what I said. I haven't stopped posting critical things about performers I like in the fan communities I post in. Because as much as I don't want to make people feel bad, the onus for keeping things classy is still on the performer because they're the ones nosing in on a community and a discussion that wasn't intended for them. Can they view them? Yes. Will they view them? Sometimes, yes. Does that mean fans shouldn't give their honest opinions in fan communities? No, I don't think so.

Updated On: 6/6/13 at 01:14 PM

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 1:25pm

"And to say it's "unclassy" for him to read the board about his profession and performance? Really? Hmmmm..."

I think the "unclasy" remark was not about his reading the board. Wasn't it about his calling someone who disagreed with his definition of bullying a "sh*thead"?

Posted: 6/6/13 at 1:56pm

I think everyone just needs to take a moment to breathe.
Breathing works well for everyone. Including Adam Pascal.
And he seems to be ok by it.

[Wishing Only Wounds]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 1:57pm

Pascal wrote this: "Adam, I think you misinterpreted what I said, I didn't say you were a Douchbag. I said you are a Douchebag, an Asshole and a SH*Thead. Because only someone with all those qualities would come to someones fan page, who they are obviously not a fan of and respond to a post, that is not a rant, but an honest expression feelings. Tell me I'm wrong..I shouldn't feel that way, that paying for a ticket allows someone to go on a public forum and say what I felt was hurtful and that I, without mentioning anyone's name is actually the bully. Your opinion of what may or may not be bullying is irrelevant here. You can put it on your fan page. I know all I need to know about you. I have seen people like you many times. The sound of your own voice as you "rise above pathetic name calling" makes you think you are in some way superior. That because you don't "sink to that level", makes you think you have some sort of moral high ground. You think your perceived eloquence in the way your choose your words makes you mature and that only "pathetic" people would stoop to the level of name calling. The only thing pathetic is that I have given you any attention at all. You are one of the worst kind of bullies. Someone who thinks that they have the right to tell people how and why to feel a certain way. The way you think is appropriate. That you get to decide how others should react and swiftly tell them they are wrong, when you don't agree. Belittle their feelings, reverse it and turn it on them. I didn't ask for your "rebuttal". You in your egocentric mind somehow thought this was a debate that was open to it. You obviously think so highly of your own opinion, that you go around giving "rebuttals" to people's posts that you don't know, when no one asked you. I see why you defended this person to begin with. You are exactly the same. Consumed by your narcissism and Blissfully unaware that your behavior might be inappropriate. I'm done with with you and hope that you will leave this page and go back to the rock you crawled out from under."

What an arrogant schmuck. How unprofessional. He'll get his.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 2:33pm

Damn

[WiCkEDrOcKS]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 2:37pm

Are you kidding...? What the actual f*ck?!

I think my favorite line may be "I'm done with you."
He literally sounds like a 13 year old girl in a fight on their MySpace page. Updated On: 6/6/13 at 02:37 PM

[Wynbish]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 2:39pm

Interesting how he criticizes people who hide behind anonymity, and then treats someone who is not hiding like that.

[mimi6]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 2:42pm

Craww, you're being just a bit disingenuous. You did not just post one critique about Mr. Pascal, you dissed him on his own webpage, attacked his fans, and you created a webpage solely to mock him with photoshopped pictures and mocking headlines.

Now go ahead and attack me. You've done it before. But I just wanted to set the record straight on your actions.

[Kad]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 2:46pm

"Consumed by your narcissism and Blissfully unaware that your behavior might be inappropriate."

Huh.

[blaxx]

Posted: 6/6/13 at 2:54pm

Both of the ReNt boys are used to nothing but praise since 1996. They were told they were God's gift and they truly believed it. It's silly that we've had long threads of both defending their performances like they can do no wrong.

They are both pathetic in the way they take criticism. Especially from an open forum dedicated to share opinions. Yes, not everyone worships you- shocker. Both are delusional cry babies.