Adam Pascal sounds off on the haters! — Page 8

It makes my skin crawl when people abuse the word bullying. Bullying is repetitive, done with the intent to harm, and DIRECTED AT THE VICTIM. Pointing out that Adam Pascal flubbed a line on a board where he may never read it is not bullying.

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Sounds we're basically in agreement, then, WiCkEDrOcKS, but this?:

"...they "make fun" of us (which is probably true of some theater insiders...and also in horrible taste...talk about biting the hand that feeds you."

I honestly almost never hear anyone in theaters talk about either message board, but when they do "make fun", it's usually over something like a thread like this, posters in a tizzy over something really silly, and all excited that someone's noticed them - like the Bring Broadway back to the Tonys thread I was talking about. Some posters were practically wetting their pants when they were quoted on an actor's page, or in the press.

No one's sitting around in their dressing rooms saying "Oh, those stupid fans of ours, talking about our show".

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And Diva's and Best 12's posts came up while I was writing, and I agree, but I'd already written this, so here it is.

Updated On: 6/5/13 at 09:08 PM

P.S. No one is saying that sometimes the "bullying" on this far doesn't go too far. What we ARE saying is that THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE CASES.

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No one's sitting around in their dressing rooms saying "Oh, those stupid fans of ours, talking about our show".

I didn't say that. I just remember someone saying that two producers (I believe) had been posting comments that someone had posted on here to each others' Facebook walls (personal Facebooks, mind you), making fun of the posts and making jabs at the poster personally. That is all I am going off of.

It's no secret that the theater community and those who love it are both notoriously...shall we say, outspoken? And Pascal should be able to deal with someone calling him out for going up on his lyrics. By now, you'd think he'd have thicker skin than that. And if he thinks thats the worst BroadwayWorld has dished out, then...ok.

And going off of his barometer of sensitivity, Bette Midler should have practically exploded by now since she called for lines 23, 594 times during the first few weeks of I'LL EAT YOU LAST. And we definitely discussed that. At length.

I'm glad to hear others speak out about the overuse of the word "bullying". On another board, I've been called a bully simply because I pointed out that the facts contradicted another poster's argument.

"If it weren't for these people paying for tickets, Adam Pascal wouldn't have a job right now."

That has nothing to do with my point. Now it's someone else's turn to do some reading.

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I saw Jerry Orbach as Billy Flynn four times; letter-perfect each time. Gwen Verdon and Chita Rivera, too. Never a hitch. Professionalism mattered then.

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"I think we've gotten to point in this thread that conversations enter cul-de-sacs and loop around and go nowhere."

I know you're not new around here, Kad.

Ok, I just finished reading through eight pages of this thread. And, since I created the original thread that started this whole thing, I thought that I would chime in and add my two cents. First off, not going to lie, the attention is great. But, on a more serious note, I feel that bullying is a term that is a very serious thing and is a term that is incorrectly thrown around a fair amount. Not just on here, but in other places as well.

Like I stated in my original thread, I am a fan of both Amy Spanger's and Adam Pascal's. The fact that they were in the show was what got me to go back to see it. I was disappointed with a few aspects of the show, including Pascal's flub. To me, that was something that I added to my mental laundry list of things that were wrong the performance I saw. And, I am not going to lie, there was a little part of me that was interested in a more gossipy fashion to see if Pascal has had an issue with lines in the past. That's what caused me to ask the question. It wasn't done in a spiteful way, nor was I sitting in my seat, saying through out the course of the show, " I can't wait till Adam flubs." I was just a little curious to see if this was something that happened before. And, as for the recovery of the mistake, I feel that he could have done it better and as a ticket buyer I'm entitled to that opinion. I never once faulted him for making a mistake, nor would I, he's human and allowed to do that.

I honestly feel that if I buy a ticket to a show, there isn't anything wrong with me coming on here and stating my opinions about it. That's something that is done all the time. Not just on here, but on All That Chat and even The New York Times website. If I said something that could have been thought of as evil or full of malice or ill will by accident, I would have no problem in saying " I screwed up, and I'm sorry." But, in this situation, I don't feel that is the case.

I will, however, openly say here and now, that I find it odd that Pascal on one hand says that he loathes sites like this, and yet reads them anyway. I also find it sad that the word "bullying" is once again being used incorrectly.

In any event, thanks Kad and others for the support. I honestly appreciate it.

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Winston -- you didn't do/say anything wrong. You made a comment and were looking for info. Not for a moment should you worry about this.

I can understand his wanting to let off steam, but he didn't do so in the best of ways. (I'm rather shocked that people haven't come on to either thread from his fansite to trash folks here.)

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Unfortunately, the proliferation of both trolls and shills have caused us to be less welcoming than we should be with new posters.

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