Adam Pascal sounds off on the haters! — Page 6

Lizzy summed it up perfectly:

Also, I tore a muscle rolling my eyes as soon as he broke out with the "Well, YOU try doing it 8 times a week!" argument.

That's not the audience member's job. That's YOUR job. It's not my job to perform knee surgery either, but if my surgeon messes up, I'm not going to be silent just because I personally don't have the ability to perform the surgery.

I also don't like the "you can't do my job" argument.

I may not be on Broadway, but I'm pretty damn sure Adam can't do my job either.

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If anyone wants to find some humor in all of this, read the fan comments on his FB site. They are truly profound and uniquely insightful >not<.

My recent favorite:

"I love you more when you forget, it means youre totally in the moment."

"Things You Can Say to People Before You Drug Them" for $100!

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Updated On: 6/5/13 at 07:05 PM

Jane---Oh, no, I've never ever received any criticism. I live in a bubble.

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A megaphone? More like a radio channel.

That can be turned off and ignored.

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Kad, I respect you and don't want respond hyperbolically, but whether or not people choose not to read here, shouldn't there be reasonable limits to what bashing we can do on this site?

Updated On: 6/5/13 at 07:19 PM

I didn't realize Adam Pascal had Amish fans. On FB, no less!

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"Kad, I respect you and don't want respond hyperbolically, but whether or not people choose not to read here, shouldn't there be reasonable limits to what bashing we can do on this site?"

As long as it's not slanderous or libelous, or constrained by other limits of law governing speech, I don't see the need to institute limits. The moderators can, and do, see to moderate as they see fit, or in response to specific complaints.

Discussing performers and performances WILL yield opinions and thoughts that are negative. People WILL feel strongly about them- positively or negatively.

I have seen no evidence of what is spoken on these boards affecting box office or critical success, or whether or not an actor will have a successful career and find work.

Freedom of speech cuts both ways- good and bad, particularly on the Internet which for the most part is an ungovernable morass of differing points of view.

Broadway professionals KNOW what sort of discussions can and do go on here, or on ATC, or any other message board. They know it. They can choose to engage, or choose to ignore. Most choose the latter and seem to be better for it.

Throwing a fit because you peered into a place you know might contain things you didn't like and- surprisingly enough- found things you didn't like is ridiculous.

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It's so interesting to see how people rationalise their mistakes and those that pull them up on it, John Adams. I find that truly pathetic - that the fans have to result in personal attacks rather than focus on the actual issue.

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Kad, I agree with most of your post except:

I think there IS a kind of bashing here at BWW that stops short of breaking the law that is still abusive. There is a CUMULATIVE effect of individually innocuous digs that goes on for page after page that can rise to the level of bashing for me.

I concede that Pascal was ill-advised to post his rant on Facebook, but 5 pages of pissy rebuttal on this thread seems wildly out of scale as a response. There's a mean girl glee to it all, and I'm saddened by the sense that so few of the posters recognize that we might actually be part of the problem too.

Someone in a Tree2--I consider myself sensitive to actual "bashing.' Not criticism, or even potshots, but actual bashing and bullying. I have seen some of it around here, so your point is well taken.

But I don't think Pascal is or was being "bashed" on these threads.

Winston's comments that Pascal has rebutted had to do with his flubbing up and recovering so poorly from it. That's pretty much it, and it's not a "bash." He went on to say that many of the current Chicago cast members are "walking through" their tracks.

That's a fair criticism if Winston feels that way. Again, not a "bash."

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Except this ISN'T five pages of "Adam Pascal is a whiny twat."

There is legitimate discussion and argument going on- often about several related topics at once. Dogpiling more often than not occurs to specific USERS on this forum, those who can and do engage in debate or egg it on.

In comparison, the negative discussion of performers is hindered by the fact that it is dependent on the discussed DOING something noteworthy (IE: Pascal having a rant on Facebook, Karen Olivo missing performances, Erin Dilly's husband defending her in re: Smash). And even then- are the personages being discussed aware of it? Many times, no. It then falls to individual moralities to decide if one can be hurt by what one does not know.

Otherwise, I don't see how discussion of public figures on here constitutes bullying. Bullying of specific members? Yeah, no doubt that it occurs and in ugly ways.

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"But if part of your job involves a "service" that others (even large audiences) pay to experience, it's your job to deliver the goods. "

"As for flubbing lines, it can happened to newbies and seasoned professionals alike. It can happen to people who have performed the same role or song or dance thousands of times. "

But, but ? First you say it's their job to deliver the goods. But then, is it okay if they don't, as you acknowledge in your second sentence.

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