Just wondering why he can’t be considered for the part that, he won for before, but in a kinda new production. Like has this every happened before where and actor isn’t eligible for a tony the next time they play a part even if its a new production? Thanks
It's not a new production and he is apparently giving the SAME performance, to even the detail of his singing inflections on the cast recording.
And yes it has happened before, to the last guy who won a Tony playing the Emcee (what was his name again ?)
Those are the Tony rules?: "If an actor or actress is otherwise eligible but is repeating a role for which such actor or actress has won a Tony Award previously, such actor or actress shall not be eligible regardless of the category that role may have been placed in previously."
^ Joel Grey.
If its not a new production, then surely that means it shouldnt be eligible for any Tony Award nominations?
This has all been pondered in some other thread, but Alan being the only lead in this reprised production shouldn't really impact Michelle Williams and others from being nominated. Not sure about the show itself.
I think even if he could be nominated he wouldnt have a chance with Ramin and NPH in the running
Oh ok that makes it very clear now. Actually i wondered that? The production won’t be eligible for any nominations!
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Who's Alan Cummings? I've only heard of Alan Cumming.
It doesn't even mater if it's a different director and/or concept. If the performer has played the role on Broadway before, they are ineligible for the Tony in future productions (in the same role).
Case in point: Lonette McKee in Show Boat. Her second production, directed by Hal Prince, was magnificent, and she could have easily won for playing Julie (even beating out Glenn Close, IMO), but she had already been nominated in the Michael Kahn production back in 1983. A different staging of Show Boat.
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I believe the most recent example of this was Al Pacino for "Salome", where even though he wasn't even nominated for the production he did in 1992, he was still ineligible in 2003 as he had played the role before.
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Oh see, I thought you had to WIN in order to be ineligible for the TONY.
Re: McKee and Pacino, the rules said you had to win previously to not be nominated again, not just have been nominated before, unless they changed them at some point since those incidents.
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According to these rulings from 2003, Pacino wasn't eligible just because he had been in it before:
Oscar Wilde’s Salome: The Reading will be eligible in the Best Revival category, although Al Pacino — who stars in the Wilde opus at the Barrymore — will not be eligible, since he has played the role previously on Broadway. His co-star Marisa Tomei, however, will be eligible in the leading actress category. Salome’s other key players, Dianne Wiest and David Straithairn, will be eligible in the featured categories
So not sure if that rule has changed since, but at one point at least, even if you weren't nominated originally, you're still not eligible.
Previously, you were ineligible if you had played the role on Broadway before, nominated or not. The new rules now state that you are ineligible if you've won for the role. I'm not sure when that rule changed. Perhaps it's known as the "McKee clause".
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