It is important because this is a space where people with different kinds of sexual and gender expression shouldn't be met with judgement, and blanket statements such "bisexuality doesn't exist," does not create that kind environment.
Updated On: 10/8/14 at 03:50 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
You keep at it by contributing "days later." If you want to leave it at that, do not post anymore on the subject and it will predictably fade away. You continuing to pop up with new examples of your terrifying, closed-minded ignorance is just fanning the flames.
I would also add that explaining yourself is simply voicing an opinion; it's not backing up or substantiating that claim. It would be no different if someone came on here and ignorantly claimed that plays are a superior art form to musicals. They be lambasted for the opinion, and rightfully so, but they would also be expected to provide some kind of evidence supporting their viewpoint. That is how we can avoid these circular "...because I said so!" discussions.
Do you have any facts to back up your bigoted viewpoint?
"Ive already explained myself a few times!!"
You've said many of the openly bisexual people you have known have ended up coming out as gay. You are a freshman in college, this is anecdotal evidence, and this is not enough to base a belief on.
You have said that there can be no way to prove bisexuality. It has been documented since ancience times in all conceivable mediums, not to mention the testimony of users on this forum that have posted here.
You've IGNORED those testimonials from bisexual members here, by the way- the people whose sexuality you don't "believe in", the people you think need to pick a side and stick with it, the people you think are cowardly for not coming out of the closet. You haven't even addressed them. And you've not said a word about any of the links posted here for you, and you specifically, to read. I doubt you've read them.
Having an opinion is the bare minimum here- and in life. Who gives a **** if you have an opinion? Cats have opinions. Defend it adequately.
I basically stopped caring about this subject a long time ago which is why i haven't really talked about the topic in sooo long and you guys continue! I have nothing else to say! I don't know what you guys want me to say!
Well an apology to the bisexual members of this board for denying bisexuality doesn't exist would be a great place to start.
We've been keeping at it because you continue to post here without acknowledging most of the things posted here that challenge you.
The problem: you don't care. Then why offer any sort of opnion whatsoever?
Philly, I get the feeling you know you are wrong but you probably feel like you are getting ganged up on by the posters so you are sticking with your preposterous mentality. It's okay to admit you are wrong. We won't be angry, in fact, it's the best thing you can do at this point. I know you are smarter than this.
Philly is like the young protégé of Gothampc.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
I think you're being far too kind.
Well, you don't want to be too cruel or else he'd end up like you. Hated by everyone. Philly is a kid and has time to mature. You on the other hand are an adult and have done far worse things on this board than Philly.
Reflecting on some of the things said here and be interesting to hear the female side of bi-sexuality.
As I mentioned earlier, the only male bi-sexuals that I have know became homosexuals when that need arose then went back to being heterosexuals but they always[almost] did it without their female partners' knowledge--chop and change/opportunity/prison-who knows the circumstances BUT, many heterosexual males turn to homosexuality [however briefly] in later years due to less complications in 'doing the deed'if the committed to female partner is no longer willing.
"the only male bi-sexuals that I have know became homosexuals when that need arose then went back to being heterosexuals"
Wouldn't they just bisexuals the whole time? Since that would encompass same- and opposite-gendered sex partners?
Seems to invalidate bisexuality to use it to describe people who are alternatively in "heterosexual" and "homosexual" pairings, as though bisexual had no identity of its own.
Updated On: 10/8/14 at 07:39 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/1/14
"became"....?
That's not the right description for a bi. If someone witnesses a bi having affairs either way, that just means they're manifesting the desire in binary--because that's the only way to do it. Are you saying a bisexual doesn't exist unless they have sex with a male and female at the exact same time? That's what your argument sounds like.
That's like saying a biracial person "becomes black" when hanging out with a group of black friends and "becomes white" when going to work in a white workplace. That's stupid. A biracial person is always biracial; but they'll manifest behavior in a given situation, while that internal identity never actually changes. Sure, many biracial people happen to identify more with one racial subculture than the other. Sexual attraction is the same way. Just because one chooses a permanent partner doesn't mean the sexuality changes--that just means (supposed) MONOGAMY. It's called fidelity. Choosing that one person of a particular sex doesn't negate attraction to all others.
The situations (sweetlips) experienced could be a classic Brokeback Mountain thing.
I get the feeling so many people have abused the term bisexual that its true meaning has been so diluted and people who do feel significant sexual attraction to both are just left in the dust.
I want Andy to join in.
We type as we think but interpretation can be read so many different ways-the humour in our head as we say it,inflection and what we MEAN to say doesn't type the same.
So-I try to say what I think and jumbles at times. Just making comments on my observations to differing personality I have connected with.
Be honest with whatever and how ever many sexualities you choose to enjoy, don't emotionally hurt others in your process of exploration and PLAY SAFE [another subject but an area that many team changers do NOT take seriously].
Anyone heard of Bob Downe?--going to see him tonight-his new show 'Out of the Closet'-a very funny camp man who feels it is about time to 'come out' to the world-everyone else seems to.[he says].Wonder if he will be bi ?????
Updated On: 10/8/14 at 08:23 PM
Damn Philly, I sure hope you're cute, at least.
hahahaha
Philly, you keep responding, but not actually responding to the questions and ideas posed for you, which is why people are still posting to you. You say you don’t know what everyone wants you to say, so I will make it easy for you and ask you these direct things to respond to:
1. Have you read any of the articles that people have posted on here? If so, what did you think of them? If not, how can you continue to argue your own side if you refuse to read any research on the subject and can’t back your own side up with more than just your limited experiences?
2. Have you read the testimonials from the bisexual members here who have posted? If so, what do you think of the things they said?
3. Have you considered that just because you can’t understand something about someone (or a group of people) and you haven’t seen it in your own life, it doesn’t make it any less of a reality?
4. Are you seeing any parallels between the arguments you are making (and how you are making them) and those who deny that homosexuality (not just bisexuality) is real? It’s equivalent to someone saying that they don’t know anyone who is “truly” gay, so homosexuality must not be a real thing.
5. You say this is just your “opinion.” But, can you understand that an opinion is view or belief on something and saying that bisexuality is not real and there is no one who is attracted to both genders is not an opinion – it’s denying that something exists, a denial of facts that have been laid out for you with research and personal testimonials to back it up? It’s like saying that, because you have never been to Paris and haven’t seen it for yourself, the Eiffel Tower isn’t real. Despite the fact that millions of others have seen it, experienced it, and there is documentation of its existence throughout history to the present, someone insists that the Eiffel Tower doesn’t exist because they haven’t seen it themselves – that’s not an opinion, it’s just ignorance and a denial of truth.
I fear this is futile, but I certainly hope that (and this is the only reason I – and I suspect many of the others – continue to respond), somehow, some of these thoughts might actually stick somewhere in your mind and, if not now, in the future you may be more open to giving these thoughts a little more consideration and understanding.
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Brava!
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
Beautiful, gilmore. Thanks for posting that.
I don't know, that's asking Philly to respond with more than "hahaha (emoticon)"
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/1/14
Keep in mind that Phillypinto admitted to being "very religious." You cannot use reason to convince a Flat-Earther that the world is in fact spheroid.
Kudos to GilmoreGirlO2 and others for the effort, though. :P
A lot of great efforts at providing useful information and education have been made here. But i think the last half-dozen or so replies have made it clear that phillypinto's medical condition of cranio-rectal insertion is a quite deliberate choice and not one that he suffers from or wants to cure. It appears that our initial presumptions of good will marred by ignorance due simply to young age and inexperience were overly optimistic. Ignorance can be cured with information, but philly's chosen medical condition cannot. Thanks all for trying.
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