Hey broadwaybound12! I'm going to be a freshman at Elon in the fall for MT and I couldn't be more excited! The greatest thing that I've found when I've visited is how much the faculty obviously cares for their students. I feel like it matches what you're looking for in terms of size (the largest classes at Elon are at most 33 people). You can take a look at some of the alumni here: http://www.elon.edu/e-web/academics/elon_college/performing_arts/alumni.xhtml And that list doesn't even include the recent graduates who have been cast in the national tours of A Chorus Line, Spring Awakening, Fiddler on the Roof and West Side Story! If you have any questions, you can PM me and I'll try my best to answer them! Feel free to PM me through the school year to see how things are going. I hope you find the school that's best for you! :)
seaweedjstubbs - Thank you so much for the link, and all the things you said about Elon. I will defintely be sent you a PM during the school year, thanks so much! =)
CCM - from what I'm hearing on this board, it's sounds really hard to get into. Is it? What's the attitude of kids who go there for MT?
Emerson - Anyone know anything about this school for MT? I just checked the website, and I like it because it looks like a program where you can individual attention, which is what I need in a college.
Out of the following, which ones would you say are the best (give me reasons too, please =):
Elon U Syracuse U Florida State U Penn State CMU (Carnegie Mellon) Millikin U U of A (University of Arizona) BoCo Ithaca College Emerson College CCM U of M (University of Michigan) U of O (University of Oklahoma)
I know it's a lot, but I'm trying to get as much info as I can get. Thanks a lot!! =)
my opinion isn't going to sway anybody, but i wanted to get my thoughts out there. i agree with the majority of you guys. i am still in high school, but i know i want to go into theater, so i started researching schools. this is my current list: boston university emerson college (i am part of a theater group and the director/founder went to emerson. he is a well known actor and director in the area. he has been very successful.) ithaca college (what else is there to say hahaha it seems as if everyone has been saying great things.) syracuse university fordham university nyu (but after reading this thread i wonder now...?) wagner college uarts i live in nj so i'm not looking to go very far but i have to add these are also great schools: fsu, columbia college chicago, suny purchase, point park, northwestern, ucla. and i can't forget carnegie mellon. i have a friend who is going to be a senior in the fall and she is currently at their pre college musical theater studies program. great school. someone mentioned rider. i have to disagree. my older brother is going there in the fall. granted, he is not a musical theater major, but i've done my research and i've visited and their program is nothing to brag about. someone also questioned if someone from indiana can "make it". aside from the nyc area, the midwest is actually a great place for theater. my friend who just graduated is going to be a musical theater major at butler university's jordan college of fine arts. i'm surprised no one has mentioned butler before? its a wonderful program. QUESTION: honestly, if youre planning to be a mt or just theater major, do the schools really care about your gpa/class rank/sat scores? how important is that stuff? because i am currently ranked in the top ten of my grade... but do theater schools even care???
I do know people who have been accepted as part of a college's theatre program but then had issues with admittance to the school itself, so yes, don't let your grades slip just because you are planning on going into theatre.
Having a high GPA is also really important because you can get a lot of additional scholarships with it, especially if a school has an honors college. Pace, for example, gives a minimum of $15,000 to each student in the honor college...you need to have a certain GPA/SAT score.
What is the acceptance rate at Carnegie Mellon? I heard that only around 15 students are accepted into the MT program. Also, is Point Park University in Pittsburgh a good MT school?
MANY of the schools being bandied about here are schools with pretty stringent acceptance requirements. MOST of them expect their theater students to meet them and THEN they care about your audition.
So basically: if you don't qualilfy academically, you don't get in.
Carnegie: damn tough school to get into -- for any field of study.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
How often do community college transfer students seem to get into BFA programs? I'll have my AA soon, but is transferring sort of a hopeless cause for me? I never hear anything about this kind of transfer.
totally depends upon the school, some programs don't take transfers as you would have missed 1/2 their training. MANY will, though.
Just like anything: you need to research.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
"The main issue for me is the money, though. I'm paying for my tuition entirely myself, and my family doesn't qualify for any financial aid...we're not even close to being considered low income. NYU's insanely expensive tuition plus their lack of scholarships is the main thing that made me realize I can't even consider applying."
Apply anyway. You never know what opportunities may come your way, and until you fill out the FAFSA, you won't know what financial aide you will receive. Even if you say now your family won't qualify, you have nothing to lose in taking the steps and seeing what may come out of it.
I applied to a school I originally thought I could not afford. Before I applied, my chances of attending if I was accepted were pretty slim due to financial concern; however, I filled out the necessary financial aide paperwork and ran into aide I did not expect. I ended up attending and had a great four years. Yes, I have loans, but I would not take the time back for anything.
I strongly encourage you to apply to NYU if you think it may be a good fit for what you're looking for in an education. Worry about things like money/loans when you actually have the financial package in front of you.
"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
As some people have pointed out, being trained classicaly makes people take you more seriously. In addition to that, being trained classicaly makes your voice more full and gives you a better range than being trained in musical theatre. In a Classical Voice/Opera major you recive stage acting and dancing like Musical Theatre as well as stage makeup, stage movement, and foreign languages.
The commercial Musical Theatre viability of a classically trained voice is another debate but most of the actors I have worked with who have a "classical voice" have trained their voices separately to undertaking acting/MT training. The "stage acting and dancing... [and] stage movement" you receive as a Voice Major is NOT close to the level that you would get in a good MT or Acting** program. The acting classes in Voice programs are designed for acting in Opera, not in Musical Theatre. **Some acting programs are great places for singers who want to act and vice versa.
What has anyone heard about Drew University in New Jersey? Someone told me about the school, and that they have a MT program and that I should check it out (this is coming from someone who's not a MT major or anything. I looked at the website, and that Theater Arts department, but a website can only do so much.
I have an extremely detailed response to a lot of questions earlier in this thread, but to put it shortly,
Best BFAs Musical Theatre:
Carnegie Mellon Penn State Michigan Cincinatti Conservatory of Music
Best BA's with Musical Theatre:
America University Temple University USC UCLA Northwestern
But like I also say earlier in this thread,
College is what YOU make of it. Schools become great because of students that are motivated and work hard - training is great in a general sense, and there are hundreds of schools with great training - what I think makes these schools the best is that they not only provide outstanding training, but they accept and nuture highly energetic, motivated students. You can get the same training at other schools, but what makes a career in acting is YOU, and your drive to go out there and get jobs. I have met talented people that get work from tons of different schools.
To the above question, BFAs focus mostly on performance - it's conservatory training. You do have some outside classes, but most of your time is spent doing hands on performance work. And strictly performance work (or design, directing, music, whatever your BFA is in)
BAs give a more general artistic viewpoint. I have a BA, and took classes in design, acting, directing, musical theatre, acting, dance, etc. Would i have a BFA in, say, musical theatre, I would focus solely on singing, acting, and dancing.
As it's my junior year of high school, I'm starting the college search now... I won't start visits till the spring, but I want to start thinking about possible schools.
List at the moment:
- Elon - FSU - Penn State - CMU - Millikin - Ithaca - Emerson - Michigan - Drew University - Vassar College - Coker College - Muhlenberg - College of Charleston - York College - High Point
Opinions on the colleges above? And not just info about their MT program... also about their acedemics, like if it's a hard school to get into... things like that.
Thanks for the help =). The websites don't do the schools justice, so I figured finding more out about the schools from people who know them before college visits was the next best things =)