#51
Posted: 3/7/24 at 10:45am
I always think back to the Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Spelling Bee, Light in the Piazza, and Spamalot season. 4 hits in one season. Thrilling.
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#52
Posted: 3/7/24 at 10:49am
Broadway Flash said: "Im calling Suffs as Best new musical. It’s selling pretty well, is about important stuff, and will get good reviews. The only other competitor I see is The Outsiders."
And I'm calling Nikki Haley as the Republican party's presidential nominee. The only other competitor I see is Vivek Ramaswamy.
#53
Posted: 3/7/24 at 12:53pm
Suffs is the hit of the season. Hillary is bringing in the old school theatre goers. white lady boomers.
#54
Posted: 3/7/24 at 1:34pm
RippedMan said: "I always think back to the Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Spelling Bee, Light in the Piazza, and Spamalot season. 4 hits in one season. Thrilling."
I want Spelling Bee and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels revivals NOW!
#55
Posted: 3/7/24 at 1:46pm
Broadway Flash said: "Suffs is the hit of the season. Hillary is bringing in the old school theatre goers. white lady boomers."
I just spot-checked a handful of dates in April on Telecharge for the following shows (not scientific but it's the best we have), just to be certain that you're delusional:
- SUFFS
- NOTEBOOK
- HELL'S KITCHEN
- LEMPICKA
- HEART OF ROCK & ROLL
- WATER FOR ELEPHANTS
- THE OUTSIDERS
- GREAT GATSBY
Two conclusions:
- You're delusional. SUFFS is selling quite poorly as of right now and it's clear that Hillary Clinton has made no significant dent in the show's advance.
- SUFFS is selling no worse than any other of the above musicals. Every single one of these shows has awful numbers. There are probably a lot of producers and investors sweating bullets right now. That doesn't mean things can't turn around –– we're 30-40 days away from the dates I checked, and people are increasingly buying later –– but even the two shows that some of us thought could be the hits of the season (Hell's Kitchen and Notebook) are less than 50% full on weeknights (some nights closer to 25% full), and that includes a not-insignificant number of house seats and production holds being held. The Outsiders actually looks ok some nights...maybe the NYT piece and Angelina Jolie's participation in it are helping, OR maybe they're merely holding more seats than the other shows.
This spring may be even rougher than anticipated.
Come Labor Day, I wonder what will still be here?
Updated On: 3/7/24 at 01:46 PM
#56
Posted: 3/7/24 at 1:56pm
Post-pandemic, I've pretty much stopped looking at seating charts weeks in advance. Same-day charts seem to paint a slightly better picture for me, unless I too am delusional.
“I am furious, but I am sailing.”
#57
Posted: 3/7/24 at 2:30pm
Broadway Flash said: "Suffs is the hit of the season. Hillary is bringing in the old school theatre goers. white lady boomers."
Do you have any facts to go with your feelings?
#58
Posted: 3/7/24 at 2:44pm
EDSOSLO858 said: "Post-pandemic, I've pretty much stopped looking atseating charts weeks in advance. Same-daycharts seem to paint a slightlybetter picture for me,unless I too am delusional."
I don't think you're delusional at all. I do a monthly show at a venue here in NYC and, though we are doing similar business to what we had done pre-pandemic, our audience is buying tickets much closer to the event than in the past. Even a week before the show, we look at the numbers and panic a bit but then, come showtime, we end up nearly sold out.
#59
Posted: 3/7/24 at 3:00pm
To be fair...as is pointed out above, NONE of the new spring musicals are giant hits. Yet. Doesn't mean they cant or wont turn into a hit.
And the biggest "hit" may not be the musical that ultimately wins the Tony.
I do think Suffs is in the running for Best Musical. It has money behind it, Shaina Taub is well liked, she has apparently done massive rewrites, it has a subject matter that feels "important." Voters also might go with Lempicka (sophisticated fare, will probably need to win the top category in order to stay afloat, and voters know that), or The Notebook (the team behind it is def gunning for the crown, it has a big emotional core which helps you root for the characters, anyone can watch it and "get" it). The Outsiders is a major question mark, though the song in their recent music video is pretty. Great Gatsby is an unknown too.
This year there is truly no runaway hit that is going to be the obvious winner. So it is perfectly reasonable to assume that any of these above musicals could grow into the show that takes the crown.
#60
Posted: 3/7/24 at 3:23pm
The delusion, to be clear, is the person claiming "Suffs is the hit of the season" when it doesn't even begin previews for another 3 weeks and when there is no data backing that.
Lots of people aren't buying as far in advance as pre-pandemic. That's not a delusion, it's a fact, we have the data for that in addition to the anecdotal examples.
Unless something major changes, pretty much every new show will be banking on a Best Musical win and the bump in sales that surrounds that.
Updated On: 3/7/24 at 03:23 PM
#61
Posted: 3/7/24 at 3:27pm
SUFFS has as much chance of winning Best Musical as Hillary Clinton has of becoming president.
#62
Posted: 3/7/24 at 3:32pm
I was Suffs off-broadway and although it's heart is in the right place, it's craft isn't.
Hopefully, they have done a lot of work on the book and lyrics to transform this important musical into a successful one too.
Fingers crossed.
#63
Posted: 3/7/24 at 4:29pm
RippedMan said: "I always think back to the Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Spelling Bee, Light in the Piazza, and Spamalot season. 4 hits in one season. Thrilling."
My professor was a lead producer on Scoundrels and often talks about how they would have won a bunch of Tonys if only Spamalot had opened a year earlier or later. I would never say something to him out loud, but I'm always thinking "besite, you were also up against Spelling Bee and Piazza too, it would not have been a cake walk!"
#64
Posted: 3/7/24 at 9:20pm
Suffs IS selling well. I have it on good authority. You think I’m delusional because u don’t have the info that I have.
#65
Posted: 3/7/24 at 9:23pm
MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "To be fair...as is pointed out above, NONE of the new spring musicals are giant hits. Yet. Doesn't mean they cant or wont turn into a hit.
And the biggest "hit" may not be the musical that ultimately wins the Tony.
I do think Suffs is in the running for Best Musical. It has money behind it, Shaina Taub is well liked, she has apparently done massive rewrites, it has a subject matter that feels "important." Voters also might go with Lempicka (sophisticated fare, will probably need to win the top category in order to stay afloat, and voters know that), or The Notebook (the team behind it is def gunning for the crown, it has a big emotional core which helps you root for the characters, anyone can watch it and "get" it). The Outsiders is a major question mark, though the song in their recent music video is pretty. Great Gatsby is an unknown too.
This year there is truly no runaway hit that is going to be the obvious winner. So it is perfectly reasonable to assume that any of these above musicals could grow into the show that takes the crown."
Yes, SUFFS along with Lempicka , Hell's Kitchen + The Notebook will be nominated for Best Musical! As for the 5th nominee, just not sure yet?
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
Updated On: 3/7/24 at 09:23 PM
#66
Posted: 3/7/24 at 9:38pm
TicketBoy said: "Do you have any facts to go with your feelings?"
It’s not feelings it’s the truth
#67
Posted: 3/7/24 at 10:52pm
Its disturbing that BroadwayFlash seems to believe their own delusions. I assume sales will pick up but we can SEE how its selling with our own eyes.
#68
Posted: 3/7/24 at 10:58pm
I don’t think notebook gets nominated. I’d put days of wine and roses ahead of it as well as Gatsby and back to the future.
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