CarlosAlberto said: "TOUR ACROSS AMERICA?!?!? Are you insane?!?!? You do know that this is affecting the rest of the country and not just New York City and Broadway, right?"
I mean, AFTER this is all over. After the current tour season.
disneybroadwayfan22 said: "CarlosAlberto said: "TOUR ACROSS AMERICA?!?!? Are you insane?!?!? You do know that this is affecting the rest of the country and not just New York City and Broadway, right?"
I mean, AFTER this is all over. After the current tour season."
Oh, okay. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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AlanB3 said: "JennH:
I hear your frustration. Though the economic recovery has been steady and significant it indeed has not afforded many people the benefits that others have experienced. Much of our economic system in America rewards helps those with money make more money.
This reality has further exposed some of the systemic inequities that will require a great deal of political will to change ... from leaders in both government and business and from a citizenry that demands change. The lack of rise in real wages is an entrenched problem that probably will require some fundamental reordering of the market and how analysts evaluate corporations and their profit forecasts. The rise of "B corporations" is a hopeful, albeit still in its infancy example of this shift: https://bcorporation.net/about-b-corps
I guess I'd caution all of us to be careful with our choice of words, particularly when we are most frustrated, or maybe I'm just engaging with this topic a bit more analytically. It is easy to make generalizations or use vague data points that aren't quite helpful and those then become part of the narrative that others might pass on. Example: I am in no way a part of the 1%, but I am invested in the stock market as are many of my other ordinary middle-class friends ($40,000-$75,000/year incomes) and just about anyone with a 401K or the equivalent. Yes, the 1% own an outsized portion of the market, but they in no way are the only players."
This is validating and much appreciated.
As for that Times article, what's seemingly been happening in China and S.K. is that both have passed their peak (this is fact so far), So I don't think it's matter of these restrictions lasting until a vaccine is ready (good lord, we might as well call the apocalypse upon us now if all this lasted for a whole year and half...) but waiting until our own peak is over. Great strides a re already being made with said vaccine, but it's still very much a waiting game. There certainly will be a new normal once this is over.
BREAKING
Coronavirus live updates: Shelter-in-place order possible in New York City - 48 Hours notice will be given prior !
Plan then is to self isolate for 2 weeks!!! Hang in there everyone and stock up!
MACYS just closed in NYC as will all retail stores will shutdown and Malls!
There are at least 5,700 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the United States.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-live-updates-police-begin-enforcing-bans-public/story?id=69636160
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The 48-hour comment is a de Blasio story.
Governor Cuomo has specifically stated multiple times throughout the day that de Blasio cannot enact a shelter-in-place policy, only the Governor's office can. While it might still happen, Cuomo has indicated he would rather not do so.
"Mayor urges New Yorkers to prepare to shelter in place but governor's office says 'there is no consideration of that'"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/politics/bill-de-blasio-andrew-cuomo-new-york-shelter-in-place-coronavirus-cnntv/index.html
I believe the city will end up needing to do this...279 new cases were reported just today...we will be over 1000 by tomorrow double that by next week if we don't act now!
They will have to do this because too many people simply are not taking this seriously. They carry on as if nothing is going on. They don't want to do it, but unfortunately, it will happen.
That resilient "get on with life as usual" attitude helped NYC quickly rebound after 9/11. It was an asset back then, but now it's a liability.
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CT2NYC said: "That resilient "get on with life as usual" attitude helped NYC quickly rebound after 9/11. It was an asset back then, but now it's a liability."
You ain't lyin'. Although that spirit will certainly be more than welcome once this finally is over.
As for a lockdown...Ok, I strangely didn't know that only the gov'r can make that call...I learned something new today. And I hate saying it, but I agree. I still saw too many people with the kids in the parks and a few other things to have any comfort or belief in people to do what's necessary on their own.
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JennH said: "CT2NYC said: "That resilient "get on with life as usual" attitude helped NYC quickly rebound after 9/11. It was an asset back then, but now it's a liability."
You ain't lyin'. Although that spirit will certainly be more than welcome once this finally is over.
As for a lockdown...Ok, I strangely didn't know that only the gov'r can make that call...I learned something new today. And I hate saying it, but I agree. I still saw too many people with the kids in the parks and a few other things to have any comfort or belief in people to do what's necessary on their own."
Jenn, I saw the same thing just now as I stepped out just to get groceries.
If we want to get back to some kind of regular day to day, we have to make dramatic moves FAST to see big results SOONER. This is why they shut down Broadway, etc.
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kennedy_rose said: "JennH said: "CT2NYC said: "That resilient "get on with life as usual" attitude helped NYC quickly rebound after 9/11. It was an asset back then, but now it's a liability."
You ain't lyin'. Although that spirit will certainly be more than welcome once this finally is over.
As for a lockdown...Ok, I strangely didn't know that only the gov'r can make that call...I learned something new today. And I hate saying it, but I agree. I still saw too many people with the kids in the parks and a few other things to have any comfort or belief in people to do what's necessary on their own."
Jenn, I saw the same thing just now as I stepped out just to get groceries.
If we want to get back to some kind of regular day to day, we have to make dramatic moves FAST to see big results SOONER.This is why they shut down Broadway, etc.
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We've gotten better but it's not enough. It doesn't help our "leaders" didn't take the precautions necessary to begin with...I just can't anymore with even the current decision to turn down more tests from Germany...LIKE WHY.
Cases jump more and more every day, so they are absolutely going to have to do a 24 hour quarantine soon. People are still out in hoards doing whatever they want. Incredibly alarming and honestly infuriating.
Robbie2 said: "I believe the city will end up needing to do this...279 new cases were reported just today...we will be over 1000 by tomorrow double that by next week if we don't act now!"
The amount of cases doubled over night 525 NYC now has 1339 -
NY STATE 2382 CASES
WHY are people out and about-STAY HOME
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Sutton Ross said: "Cases jump more and more every day, so they are absolutely going to have to do a 24 hour quarantine soon. People are still out in hoards doing whatever they want. Incredibly alarming and honestly infuriating."
SERIOUSLY...ok, not entirely 24 hours but close enough. If they follow San Fran, it'll be for essentials and that's it.
I’m curious when/if we’ll any closing announcements of shows during this shut down and I wonder if any of the shows that were expected to close during it have already packed up their sets and what not.
Robbie2 said: "Robbie2 said: "I believe the city will end up needing to do this...279 new cases were reported just today...we will be over 1000 by tomorrow double that by next week if we don't act now!"
The amount of cases doubled over night 525NYC now has 1339 -
NY STATE 2382 CASES
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This is so frightening from my post yesterday -
The amount of cases Tuesday>Wednesday was 525 overnight -
LAST NIGHT Wednesday > Thursday was 1100 DOUBLED again!!!
TOTAL for NY State near 5000 CASES > DOUBLED overnight!!!
We will HIT 10,000 by the weekend!!!
Tri-State Cases Near 5,000, Death Toll Hits 40; 75% of NY Work Force Ordered to Stay Home
Today"s Update: New York City is growing increasingly desperate to curb the spread of infection. As of Thursday morning, the five boroughs had 2,469 confirmed cases of COVID-19 -- an increase of more than 1,100 from the previous day. Six days before that, the city had just 95 cases. Three weeks ago, there were zero.
STAY HOME -self isolate and chill!
Italy just passed China’s number of deaths and Italy is in lockdown. My state just had our first death and we went from one confirmed case last week to 46 this morning and that’s only counting those who’ve been tested.
Unless every city locks down completely now it will never end. Wuhan was locked down after approx. 600 cases and 15 deaths if I recall. And it still took a couple of months and thousands of deaths later to calm down. No other country has taken as swift action and we are going to suffer the consequences. This will be an absolute blood bath. Governments need to take drastic action now!!
true - my building just instituted a 4 per person only in the elevators (we have 3) and our laundry room is open now 24 hours -cleaned every hour and all food deliveries need to be picked by the front desk-doorman and no visitors only family members will be allowed in the buiding
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Sooo.... since I am not in my office I feel so out of the loop.BUT, with Reidel’s latest article ... does he know something we don’t? Is Broadway shutting for 8 weeks not 4?
https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/for-once-broadway-isnt-going-to-quickly-bounce-back/
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qolbinau said: "Unless every city locks down completely now it will never end. Wuhan was locked down after approx. 600 cases and 15 deaths if I recall. And it still took a couple of months and thousands of deaths later to calm down. No other country has taken as swift action and we are going to suffer the consequences. This will be an absolute blood bath. Governments need to take drastic action now!!"
South Korea is a prime example of a modified approach that has been highly successful because they used aggressive testing, contact mapping, and selective quarantines. It can be done as this article outlines:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/how-we-beat-coronavirus/608389/
troynow said: "Sooo.... since I am not in my office I feel so out of the loop.BUT, with Reidel’s latest article ... does he know something we don’t? Is Broadway shutting for 8 weeks not 4?
https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/for-once-broadway-isnt-going-to-quickly-bounce-back/"
Well, those of us not in denial already knew that the 4/13 reopening date was an impossibility. Even 8 weeks is too optimistic. Riedel probably has a source or two, but, even if he doesn't, he can very safely say that theatres won't reopen in April. At this point, it's a given.
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Theaters are tentatively changing the re-opening date to middle of May. It may not be announced publicly. But more likely according to multiple top sources the closing is going to last until October.
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qolbinau said: "Unless every city locks down completely now it will never end. Wuhan was locked down after approx. 600 cases and 15 deaths if I recall. And it still took a couple of months and thousands of deaths later to calm down. No other country has taken as swift action and we are going to suffer the consequences. This will be an absolute blood bath. Governments need to take drastic action now!!"
I'm just gonna reiterate wha's been said by experts but also by a couple people I know who live in S.K. and have a better perspective just by sheer proximity. Don't trust the numbers out of China. For obvious reasons. I don't believe it was low as 600 cases and 15 deaths by any means. That being said I'd LOVE to be living in S.K. or Japan right now....They were ON TOP OF THIS, S.K. especially, both have past their peak with as little pain as one could possibly hope for. It was crazy but they were aggressive and it worked. These things always ed eventually, but it WILL be dragged out longer and therefore there'll be much more damage. Because I agree, it's ticking me off that not enough drastic action was taken earlier, and STILL isn't. I nearly lost it talking to my parents about this earlier.
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