Broadway to Close?- Page 23

[Impossible2]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 9:24am

BenElliott said: "I work retail and we would really like to get closed down as well. I work somewhere with A LOT of tourist traffic. I'm seeing people that are wheeze coughing all over everything. People are not staying home and they are not social distancing.

The minute you start asking minimum wage workers to put on masks and gloves to scrub the entire store with Virex, it's time to close. I should be getting hazard pay for that sh*t. I have people at home who are part of the extremely at risk group. This disease would, without question, kill my mother who is 62, auto-immune, diabetic, and has serious lung issues. We're losing money keeping ourselves open so we can sell non-essential goods to millennial yuppies that don't care about anyone else.

Shut. It. Down. And make my multi-billion dollar company give me sick leave while we're gone. God, knows they can afford it.
NYC is NOT handling this situation well at all."

This x

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 11:12am

BJR said: "To be fair, I think the bar closures are about in line with some other states. NYC is a little behind in that it hasn't closed gyms and just closed schools. I think few places, though, are on lock down like Europe, with all non-essential businesses closed.

But I've thought of retail workers in this. What is the point of having such stores open besides fear of the economic impact? Stay safe."

Gyms close at 8:00 p.m. tonight. 

[VotePeron]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 11:46am

Hasn't been mentioned much in this thread, but reminder to donate, donate, donate where you can. Specifically to non-profits and theater companies you had a ticket to already, that produce work you've loved in the past, or would be compelled to support in the future. Big commercial shows will most likely be fine. The smaller theaters will not. 

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 5:18pm

Apologies if this has been asked/answered before but I was little unclear about the language in the article: will tickets bought at the box office be automatically refunded?

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 5:25pm

TheQuibbler said: "Apologies if this has been asked/answered before but I was little unclear about the language in the article: will tickets bought at the box office be automatically refunded?"

Standard practice is to refund purchases made with credit cards automatically (this can take a few days, especially with such a large volume of them to process right now). If you bought them in person and paid cash you'll need to contact them to arrange the refund method.

If you did pay by credit card and you don't see the refund in the next few days on your statement then I would reach out.

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 5:55pm

AEA AGMA SM said: "TheQuibbler said: "Apologies if this has been asked/answered before but I was little unclear about the language in the article: will tickets bought at the box office be automatically refunded?"

Standard practice is to refund purchases made with credit cards automatically (this can take a few days, especially with such a large volume of them to process right now). If you bought them in person and paid cash you'll need to contact them to arrange the refund method.

If you did pay by credit card and you don't see the refund in the next few days on your statement then I would reach out."

Thank you! 

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 6:02pm

Like California, N.Y. needs address the homeless population.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 6:32pm

Some jolly reading...

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

[Robbie2]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 7:24pm

starting tomorrow we are officially WFH even though we started last Friday...nobody we know is going in to the office for the next 2 weeks or so being told the office is closed now till further notice! This is really happening now...Only restaurants-takeout / delivery, supermarkets, bodegas, markets, and pharmacies will be open ...o yea and retail shops but not for long as many are not open we noticed

WFH - SOCIAL DISTANCING IS SO IMPORTANT NOW...PLEASE just STAY HOME -BE SAFE ALL!

Updated On: 3/16/20 at 07:24 PM

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 9:15pm

The thing is, with all the shows people want to see, wouldn’t they stay open to see what business is like? Wouldn’t people be running to the box office once shows reopen?

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 9:27pm

Millions of people are going to be out of work with no money to run to these box offices.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 9:27pm

Carnegie Hall just canceled everything through May 10. I expect Broadway to follow.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 9:33pm

hearthemsing22 said: "The thing is, with all the shows people want to see, wouldn’t they stay open to see what business is like? Wouldn’t people be running to the box office once shows reopen?"

Maybe, but if we are in the middle of a recession (we will be), with many people out of work, and more struggling after this, luxury items won't be in the equation for a very long time. Broadway most likely won't be opening until the middle of May anyways, so who knows what the next two months will bring. Nothing good I suspect. It's going to take many years to recover from this absolute nightmare.  

[Robbie2]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 9:51pm

This will lead us in to a RECESSION...Most Tourists will stay away till next year and things will slowly return to the new norm but this is not going away in 2-3 months and all of a sudden everybody will be rushing back to BWAY to see shows and visit NYC-the crippling aftermath will burden most financially.. Unfortunately, we won't have a return of tourists till probably later in the year-holiday time but we just don't know what will ensue...

[JennH]

Posted: 3/16/20 at 10:59pm

Y'all mean a double dip recession? Cause we never legitimately recovered from the last one. It's been 12 years and we've been on shaky ground since and only getting shakier. That writing has been on the wall for a loonnggg time. 

[AlanB3]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 12:10am

By the metrics used to assess the economy, the US indeed did recover from the last recession.

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 8:44am

To the Broadway shows that might be closing, can they tour across America? This is so wrong and not fair to all of the cast and crew members. 

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 9:41am

Where would they tour to? The large majority, if not all by now, of the currently running tours are on the same uncertain hiatus as all the Broadway companies. This isn’t only hitting NY and Broadway.

[BJR]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 9:50am

JennH said: "Y'allmean adouble dip recession? Cause we never legitimatelyrecovered from the last one. It's been 12 years and we've been on shaky ground since and only getting shakier. That writing has been on the wall for a loonnggg time."

By no measure did we not recover from that recession. We had 10 years of straight growth.

[JennH]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 10:22am

Ok, the metrics say we did. Then why is it that almost half the nation is underemployed, working 3-5 jobs with no security or benefits, can barely afford life essentials? Why is it that costs of living continue to rise while wages have remained stagnant (this especially is a recipe for disaster...)? Why is that the wage disparity gets worse and worse? Why is that so many well paying jobs with benefits were exported by corporations just because it was cheaper to do so? And SO many other problems. I just finding it interesting that seemingly the same group of people claiming "we recovered/ the economy is good" are the same people claiming the above problems as well. That doesn't compute. Financial experts from WSJ and Forbes have warned about the writing on the wall for a while, it just happened to be the new financial collapse would be because of a pandemic. Stock Markets may have soared before this nightmare, but why would we measure economic growth by how the 1% is doing? I don't care how they're doing, they're fine and always will be. The Fed has been propping up the economy with printed money for too long for me to believe in any REAL recovery. And of course they just did it again...money that could have put into the hands of those most hurt by this mess. 

I'm not looking for a an argument, but those issues above don't indicate growth. Or at least not growth where it should be. I love me some facts and data, but in this case it's almost meaningless to me when the shared reality of almost half the nations' working populace is underemployment/unemployment/poverty/the inability to barely afford just....life, and getting worse while the rich get richer. The same rich who literally buy legal policy that benefit them and screw the rest of us little people over. Anyways...all the above is for another day, so back to our regular programming and the topic at hand about the inevitable future financial collapse. Recession is being kind. If it goes on too long...Depression 2.0

[tstan]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 10:55am

If you are looking for a bit of positivity, this podcast lets you know where you can get your musical theatre fix while all the shows are dark, check it out! https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/breaking-broadway-shut-down/id1450757597?i=1000468531383

[AlanB3]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 11:39am

JennH:

I hear your frustration. Though the economic recovery has been steady and significant it indeed has not afforded many people the benefits that others have experienced. Much of our economic system in America rewards helps those with money make more money.

This reality has further exposed some of the systemic inequities that will require a great deal of political will to change ... from leaders in both government and business and from a citizenry that demands change. The lack of rise in real wages is an entrenched problem that probably will require some fundamental reordering of the market and how analysts evaluate corporations and their profit forecasts. The rise of "B corporations" is a hopeful, albeit still in its infancy example of this shift: https://bcorporation.net/about-b-corps

I guess I'd caution all of us to be careful with our choice of words, particularly when we are most frustrated, or maybe I'm just engaging with this topic a bit more analytically. It is easy to make generalizations or use vague data points that aren't quite helpful and those then become part of the narrative that others might pass on. Example: I am in no way a part of the 1%, but I am invested in the stock market as are many of my other ordinary middle-class friends ($40,000-$75,000/year incomes) and just about anyone with a 401K or the equivalent. Yes, the 1% own an outsized portion of the market, but they in no way are the only players.

[BenElliott]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 12:19pm

My work just closed. Two weeks paid leave for now. Our corporation might extend that. God knows they can afford it.

[Kimbo]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 12:22pm

Also, people should be prepared for a lot longer than 4 weeks, or 2 months, or even the summer. Per the first paragraphs of lead story from The NY Times this morning -

 

“ Sweeping new federal recommendations announced on Monday for Americans to sharply limit their activities appeared to draw on a dire scientific report warning that, without action by the government and individuals to slow the spread of coronavirus and suppress new cases, 2.2 million people in the United States could die.

To curb the epidemic, there would need to be drastic restrictions on work, school and social gatherings for periods of time until a vaccine was available... which could take 18 MONTHS [emphasis mine], according to the report, compiled by British researchers.

They cautioned that such steps carried enormous costs that could also affect people’s health, but concluded they were “the only viable strategy at the current time.”

That is because different steps, intended to drive down transmission by isolating patients, quarantining those in contact with them and keeping the most vulnerable apart from others for three months, could only cut the predicted death toll by half, the new report said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/coronavirus-fatality-rate-white-house.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

Updated On: 3/17/20 at 12:22 PM

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 3/17/20 at 12:31pm

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "To the Broadway shows that might be closing, can they tour across America? This is so wrong and not fair to all of the cast and crew members."

TOUR ACROSS AMERICA?!?!? Are you insane?!?!? You do know that this is affecting the rest of the country and not just New York City and Broadway, right?