#126
Posted: 8/23/17 at 6:06pm
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Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
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#127
Posted: 8/24/17 at 12:33am
Hmm...
"I've seen @dearevanhansen 4 times. Once in D.C. once at Second Stage, and twice on Broadway. This photo is from the 2nd. The FIRST time I saw the show on Broadway, mere moments before the curtain, I received a call saying my tv show had been cancelled. I was then, over the course of the show, lifted out of my devastation by beautiful darling @bensplattand reminded why I love what I do. It's incredible and affirming that I now get to carry on this legacy and be a part of something so special. I'm so F$&¿ING EXCITEDDDDD" - Noah on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYHU_mmlS74/
#128
Posted: 8/24/17 at 1:02am
Noah has been getting the criticism he deserves all day on social media. I am very glad this happened. It's interesting that after his interview, his terrible show was cut to 16 episodes and then canceled. Hm. Talk about an actor contributing to the demise of a show.
"but how all of this bad press affects the low-rated bubble series — which, after an "abusive" waiting period (Galvin's word), was renewed by the network May 12 — remains to be seen. As the controversy raged, the specter of a reduced episode order arose at ABC, according to one source. And this was not the first such incident involving the actor's behavior. Insiders say Galvin has been warned multiple times about matters of "ego and entitlement." One show source says the set likely will be awkward when the cast returns to film season two later this summer: "He caused a grade-A sh!t show. ABC screamed at him all afternoon."
He called what every network show does (wait until May to make the majority of their renewal decisions) abusive. Yet, insulting an actor (who has won two Emmys, how many did Noah win?), insulting the way a man comes out, and telling the world that a major producer is into little boys sexually is not abusive???
K.
Just because your publicist writes out your apology and posts it on your social media accounts does not mean you are sorry. His repeated egotistical way he behaves shows that. What a loser.
Happy for Taylor though! He did not impress me as Barnaby but I hope he is an A MAH ZING Evan!!
Updated On: 8/24/17 at 01:02 AM
#129
Posted: 8/24/17 at 1:09am
Margo319 said: "Noah has been getting the criticism he deserves all day on social media. I am very glad this happened."
Wow, social media is usually very selective on what it will be outraged about...
#130
Posted: 8/24/17 at 6:05am
I've remained quiet until now, but at the risk of sounding like Rodney King, can I point out the things those of us who love DEH (even me who won't get to see it until November) seem to agree on?
1. We all feel protective of DEH because it resonates with us. Something about being vulnerable, lonely, misunderstood, and awkward. Every time, I listen to the cast recording, I cry...
2. Because of that, we are also protective of others who may feel the same way, even celebrities.
3. Most of us seem to agree that what the young actor said wasn't appropriate or at least poorly stated.
4. We've all made mistakes or just boldly chosen the wrong things, regrettably hurting others...
5. Many people with less than stellar reputations give stellar performances. I'll refrain from "naming names" (insert whatever performers' names come to mind)
6. We all have the right to choose which shows to see based on a variety of factors, including who are performing in them.
7. Once again, if there are words that come to mind from this show, they are "kindness, understanding, forgiveness"
8. Can we move forward keeping #7 in mind? That doesn't mean that we ignore our opinions, but we modulate them a bit in relation to how we treat each other on here and how we speak about people we don't know...
Have a great Thursday everyone! You are not alone, you will be found...
#131
Posted: 8/24/17 at 8:08am
I just find this amusing since DEH fanatics have criticized Great Comet for stunt casting Groban and Ingrid, yet are ok with Noah Galvin being put into one of the most demanding roles on Broadway. If him being Evan isn't stunt casting I don't know what is. A failed TV star as Evan will most certainly bring out all the problems this show really has.
#132
Posted: 8/24/17 at 8:23am
LeftofLinus said: "I just find this amusing since DEH fanatics have criticized Great Comet for stunt casting Groban and Ingrid, yet are ok with Noah Galvin being put into one of the most demanding roles on Broadway. If him being Evan isn't stunt casting I don't know what is. A failed TV star as Evan will most certainly bring out all the problems this show really has.
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Um.... this isn't stunt casting. His name will not cause people to buy tickets. At all. He's not terribly known.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#133
Posted: 8/24/17 at 8:30am
dramamama611 said: "LeftofLinus said: "I just find this amusing since DEH fanatics have criticized Great Comet for stunt casting Groban and Ingrid, yet are ok with Noah Galvin being put into one of the most demanding roles on Broadway. If him being Evan isn't stunt casting I don't know what is. A failed TV star as Evan will most certainly bring out all the problems this show really has.
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Um.... this isn't stunt casting. His name will not cause people to buy tickets. At all. He's not terribly known.
Ingrid wasn't terribly known either. This kid is fresh off a TV show, I've heard him sing and seen him act...his talents most certainly didn't earn him this highly coveted role, his pseudo celebrity did. He is a stunt casted place filler until an actual actor/singer could step in.
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#134
Posted: 8/24/17 at 8:31am
Noah Galvin is a trained singer who did theater almost exclusively for ten years before getting a TV show. He's not some stage neophyte.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
Updated On: 8/24/17 at 08:31 AM
#135
Posted: 8/24/17 at 8:37am
LeftofLinus said: "I just find this amusing since DEH fanatics have criticized Great Comet for stunt casting Groban and Ingrid, yet are ok with Noah Galvin being put into one of the most demanding roles on Broadway. If him being Evan isn't stunt casting I don't know what is."
Stunt casting is usually booking a name to sell tickets. He's not a name. And there are no regularly-priced tickets (and few premium tickets) for the whole time Noah will be there. If they just let the two understudies go on as Evan until Taylor started in January, it would have made the same amount of money.
#136
Posted: 8/24/17 at 8:56am
AC126748 said: "Noah Galvin is a trained singer who did theater almost exclusively for ten years before getting a TV show. He's not some stage neophyte.
He's 23. His show started what 2 years ago, so he did theater since he was 11? So have most want to be actors. I'm not saying he's a neophyte, I'm saying that a 3 month stint being filled by a ex TV actor reeks of stunt casting...and not very good stunt casting at that. The tweens who lose their minds over the show will still go to see Noah as Real O'Neils was in the same demographic, young "misfits". There is no way anyone can say that he is the best person to be cast as Evan. There is much better actual Broadway talent out there. I guess we will have to wait and see when he actually performs, but I have a strong feeling the show is going to lose a lot of it's heart and meaning with him at the helm.
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#137
Posted: 8/24/17 at 9:01am
I have to say that having never heard Noah sing (except for a few little bits on his show), I was shocked to hear how good he and his runs are when I watched a YouTube video. Based on that, I feel like he will be way stronger than Taylor. I've seen him live and it's very hit or miss. Heard him do a song from Bare at Broadway on Broadway a few years back and it was truly painful (there's a video on YouTube). I'm sure that was just an off day, but I've never found his voice to be stellar. Noah seems like he has some pretty great potential.
#138
Posted: 8/24/17 at 9:05am
LeftofLinus said: "...If him being Evan isn't stunt casting I don't know what is."
Yeah, you don't know what stunt casting is.
#139
Posted: 8/24/17 at 10:29am
'suggesting, with zero evidence, that producer Bryan Singer is a pedophile ("Bryan Singer likes to invite little boys over to his pool and diddle them in the fu*king dark of night.")'
Oh, Tasmania Devilisha (you have a drag name now! Yay, you!), anyone who has spent any amount of time in Hollywood knows that these stories are true! His 'pool parties' are legendary...and not in the good way! Perhaps that's changed from when I was out there...but Hollywood notoriously shields all kinds of hideous sh*t because of people who make money. I find it fascinating that you're willing to condemn somebody calling out behavior that many people know is going on rather than the perpetrators of such behavior. Poor Brad Renfro didn't stand a chance in this world.
#140
Posted: 8/24/17 at 10:39am
AC126748 said: "Noah Galvin is a trained singer who did theater almost exclusively for ten years before getting a TV show. He's not some stage neophyte."
I was gonna say. I saw him as Gavroche eons ago but he'd done a decent amount of stage work before The Real O'Neals.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#141
Posted: 8/24/17 at 11:37am
'My defense (at the time when this happened) was for Haynes (who just came out and talked about mental health) and Stonestreet (who has no bearing on his character).'
Well...I disagree a bit on Haynes. He profited quite a bit from his glass closet status...and I find the glass closet kind of reprehensible. I mean...I get it (mostly cause I work in the business). But I don't have to like the choice he made.
But I wonder what you're saying about Stonestreet. What do you mean he has no bearing on his character? I have problems with Mitchell and Cam (mostly that they're sexless eunuchs with very little chemistry as a couple...though both actors are terrific performers). But Stonestreet has been very open with the fact that his characterization is based on his mother. So, true...the words put into his mouth and the situations the characters finds himself in (which is something that kind of bugs me) are not his choice, but playing the role as his mother definitely is (which I'm more than fine with cause I love me a nelly gay character).
#142
Posted: 8/24/17 at 11:44am
DramaTeach said: "I have to say that having never heard Noah sing (except for a few little bits on his show), I was shocked to hear how good he and his runs are when I watched a YouTube video. Based on that, I feel like he will be way stronger than Taylor. I've seen him live and it's very hit or miss. Heard him do a song from Bare at Broadway on Broadway a few years back and it was truly painful (there's a video on YouTube). I'm sure that was just an off day, but I've never found his voice to be stellar. Noah seems like he has some pretty great potential.
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Trensch is definitely not an outstanding singer (not bad but not like, incredible) so I see what you're saying. Despite this I think his casting is smart: he can pull emotion out of a crowd and is a good actor as well he has good chemistry with the cast, that sort of awkward boy demeanor that despite being older than Platt or Galvin comes off as very young. I think the acting ability and chemistry with the rest of the cast definitely helped him out in his auditions, and I think he's a great choice! I am a little worried about his singing ability, but the casting of this show has always been good so I am inclined to trust those in charge and their judgement on his singing abilities being good enough for the role, and I am confident he will fit in great as the Evan Hansen character.
#143
Posted: 8/24/17 at 12:14pm
SonofRobbieJ said: "'My defense (at the time Hey when this happened) was for Haynes (who just came out and talked about mental health) and Stonestreet (who has no bearing on his character).'
Well...I disagree a bit on Haynes. He profited quite a bit from his glass closet status...and I find the glass closet kind of reprehensible. I mean...I get it (mostly cause I work in the business). But I don't have to like the choice he made.
But I wonder what you're saying about Stonestreet. What do you mean he has no bearing on his character? I have problems with Mitchell and Cam (mostly that they're sexless eunuchs with very little chemistry as a couple...though both actors are terrific performers). But Stonestreet has been very open with the fact that his characterization is based on his mother. So, true...the words put into his mouth and the situations the characters finds himself in (which is something that kind of bugs me) are not his choice, but playing the role as his mother definitely is (which I'm more than fine with cause I love me a nelly gay character)."
As a gay man, I have to defend Colton a little bit. I was 30 before I came out to my parents and it was another 10+ years before I was basically out to everyone. I have never written that quite that way before and it made me kinda sad, but it was my coming out process. I don't have the right to dictate anyone else's coming out process. Hell, I even applauded Barry Manilow. Better late than never. Anyway, Colton is way ahead of where I was at his age. He came out to the whole world at once. I'm glad celebrities are finding it easier to come out. It makes it easier for the next generation. I just had Liberace and Paul Lynd, who were still in the closet. Lol. Every gay man was closeted at some point.
Updated On: 8/24/17 at 12:14 PM
#144
Posted: 8/24/17 at 12:20pm
That's cool!! Thanks for clearing up what you meant re: Stonestreet. And appreciate your perspective!
ETA:
Re: Colton Haynes. I don't feel anything particularly negative towards him...mostly towards the systems in this world that force him to play coy to advance his career. And that's what he did. He was complicit in it...but let's never forget that it's the system that is hateful and awful. So...I totally hear you and get your point of view. And mostly agree. Noah Galvin came out out 14. I know we're all supposed to think he's terrible...but that's some f*cking courage.
Updated On: 8/24/17 at 12:20 PM
#145
Posted: 11/22/17 at 8:21am
Coming out is a choice. Sexuality is one's privacy. No one should force another person to come out or make the decision for him/her/them. People have been rumoring that Ben Platt is bisexual for some time, but it's not really none of our business or within our rights to have him confirm his sexuality. It's important to respect one's right to withhold personal information as such, and this is also what I believe to be DEH's message, especially in the fallout of the internet/real-life mob.
#146
Posted: 11/22/17 at 10:24am
Does anyone know for sure which male lead actor will be in the Friday matinee this week?
#147
Posted: 1/8/18 at 7:28pm
Noah is in trouble again today after tweeting Lana Del Rey sucks.
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