The only reason I came to the thread late was because I was hoping it would die and I could stay out of it. Yes, I've read this and all the other threads on this subject, looked at the links, screencaps, etc, provided.
"But I really can't imagine a fair and impartial reading of all of that deleted material could lead anyone to a conclusion of anything else but that that group was based on a lot of rancor, envy, and pettiness Then you lack imagination. You are painting all 9,000 plus people in that group with the same brush over the comments of a very few. That is neither fair nor impartial.
"Well it WAS written about in Playbill, the NYT, NYP, WSJ, and the Boston Herald. I'd say that's pretty high profile." A paragraph or two here and there. A scattering of page filler on a slow news day. No one (except maybe here) will be talking about this in another couple weeks, because either no one will be able to access the site, they'll shut it down, or people will get bored with this non-story. Many already are. It's much ado about very little, but as Borstalboy says, it's summertime - what else are you going to talk about?
"If you're trying to make people on this board feel ashamed or something, it doesn't seem to be working. The only real thing I can agree with u about is that people who called someone "a bitch" was inappropriate. " Again with the supposition. Nope, not trying to make anyone here feel ashamed, as if that would even be possible. Just pointing out that the behavior here is no better than the behavior there, which you yourself have admitted. Speaking of, if the name-calling is all you agree with me on, are you now saying that you don't think the rhetoric here is over the top? Because you did agree with that awhile ago. In fact, those were your words.
"You yourself admitted Mr. & Mrs. Foster looked pretty foolish" I did? Where did I do that?
"And yes, if people want to have a little fun (like PRS) while doing it, why not?" What makes you think I have a problem with PRS having fun with them? On the contrary, I completely understand that - it's the ones taking this so seriously that I don't get. I mean really...comparing what is going on here to investigative journalism? C'mon. I don't think you're going to get any takers even here on that one.
"I apologize for my harsh reaction." No need, 'skittles, but I'll accept it anyway. I really did try to find the original quote, but I guess my eyes got crossed somewhere along the line. I will say I don't think it's fair to lay the blame of the really nasty comments at Sieber's feet. I think they would have come up with that kind of thing all on their own - and truthfully, I really don't have a huge problem with what he said. Do I think he would have said it if he thought it was going to get repeated all over the place? Nah, but I think, as Phyl said, that he mistakenly thought he was on a private-enough forum.
"I don't think you have to elevate someone into the position of a role model just to expect people to behave professionally in their semi-public commentary." Oh, I agree. I was speaking strictly about those people who have literally said that they have "lost respect" for someone they didn't even know.
"Sounds like what Broadway's Harvey Fierstein did to win his Tony for Hairspray. Did actors crucify him for that?" Of course Harvey did that, ljay. That's almost exactly what I said. You even quoted me. But crucify? Seriously? Isn't that just a little dramatic? Nobody's been crucified. So Sieber actually wrote about CZJ what people in the business said about Harvey when he won. It just didn't get published anywhere. No, it wasn't particularly nice of him to say, but really, what is the big deal about that? Now the sorts of things that 'skittles was talking about are way off-base and uncalled-for. I didn't see the sexual allegations that 'skittles referred to,. Something like that is patently absurd and outrageously indefensible. Was it an actor who said that?
Updated On: 7/2/10 at 01:11 AM
