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Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?

Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?

jennafan
#1Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 7:13pm

Bret Michaels is obviously suing to make money. He probably thinks the Tony's will settle and give him something.

He has probably taken every drug in the world AND had a appendectomy right before the brain hemmorage.

I honestly don't think the Tony Awards are at fault here. Anything could have caused it.

I wouldn't be surprised if he adds in the appendectomy and heart problems to the lawsuit. This guy said early on it wasn't the fault of the Tony's and he wouldn't sue. But, he waits until almost the deadlne and files a lawsuit.

What a loser!
Updated On: 3/25/11 at 07:13 PM

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bwayphreak234
#2Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 7:35pm

Words cannot describe how much this man annoys me.


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boardwalker2
#3Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 7:37pm

It was reported at the time of the accident that he had missed his mark and was struck by a piece of scenery; so I don't see where his lawsuit has any teeth.


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orangeskittles
#4Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 7:50pm

Kind of a delayed reaction. Hits head in June 2009. Hemorrhage in April 2010. Sues in March 2011.


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#5Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 8:11pm

Getting conked on the head had nothing to do with his appendectamy whatsoever! It did, however, directly enable him to win last seasons Trumps reality show. EVERYONE knows that!

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bwayphreak234
#6Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 8:19pm

^ It was 2 seasons ago, but you are right. His health problems definitely won him the show


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Updated On: 3/25/11 at 08:19 PM

jennafan
#7Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 8:29pm

Once a month: You are right that Bret's health problems made him winner of the Apprentice. That's for sure.

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EponineAmneris
#8Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 9:57pm

I used to like him.

Now... not so much.

This is ridiculous.


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dramamama611
#9Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 10:26pm

Funny: he misses his mark and no one thinks he should sue.

An actor misses his safety check in Spiderman, and people pull out the pitchforks.


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jennafan
#10Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/25/11 at 10:33pm

Ok, so when is Chris going to announce his lawsuit? Isn't that the name of the one who jumped off the stage during Spider-Man.

Ooops.. I mean fell.

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Eris0303
#11Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 12:20am

That wasn't funny or appropriate


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orangeskittles
#12Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 9:09am

If he fell, and a year later, had an injury flare up, and a year later still, decided it was Spiderman's fault- despite years of dangerous behaviors that could have otherwise contributed to future health problems- yeah, that would raises a few eyebrows as well.


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#13Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 11:37am

One of the major points in his law suit seems to be that no one told him they'd be changing scenery after his performance. Duh. I guess he has an IQ of 10 and despite being in show business has never, ever seen any kind of awards show before?


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#14Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 11:46am

OMG, I'm so glad to read best12bars comments and I reacted to the video in the exact same way. The numbers are exhausting and they don't seem driven by character, especially Finch. Poor Daniel Radcliffe seems like he's trying desperately to keep with the men instead of LEADING them. It doesn't either that Ashford has found a way to make “How to Succeed...” seem somewhat relevant today. When it premiered in 1961, people recognized these characters and their issues. The only irony I detected was when the mail room guy sings in “The Company Way,” “while others come and go, here I'll stay.” We all know that myth is no longer true.

One poster defending Rob Ashford's work, commented that if Ashford were so bad then why would audiences be flocking to his shows? Easy answer: Daniel Radcliffe, Sean Hayes, Kristin Chenoweth. Also, keep in mind that the producers were very confident about “Promises,” until “La Cage” open and won raves. They assumed that show was their biggest competition for the Best Revival Tony Award, but in the end “Promises” didn't even garner a nomination. If “Promises” was much like what this “Succeed” video looks like, I can understand why.

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Mandi Moo
#15Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 1:50pm

Ok, I do think that it is ridiculous that he's suing nearly 2 years later and I'm not convinced at all that the injury had anything to do with the subsequent health problems.

However, if he really wasn't made aware of the flying scenery then I really do think that someone from the Tony Awards was responsible for the injury. If he didn't rehearse with the flying elements someone from stage management should have talked him through what was going on, especially since he and the rest of the band would be so close to the moving parts.

Also, whoever was watching or operating that particular wall should have made sure everyone was clear before completely bringing it down. I know that was a ton going on at that point, but someone should have been paying attention to the large moving scenery coming down inches from people on stage.

I still think this lawsuit is silly, but if he wasn't walked through what was going on, even if he did miss his mark, I don't totally blame him for what happened.

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ReggieonBway
#16Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 2:02pm

Um, egghumor, I think you commented in the wrong thread.

Barney Stinson
#17Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 2:08pm

Ummm, Bret walked RIGHT INTO the set piece. He should be the one paying for any damage he did to the set. If he didn't see it coming down, it's his own damn fault for a) not paying attention and b) having his cowboy hat on so low. What a tool.

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#18Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 2:09pm

Mandi you hit the point on the head (no pun intended). Accidents happen, but in a live theatre setting, and especially one that is not rehearsed or excessively rehearsed a deck stage manager and at least one carpenter (automation) should be watching the onstage large automated cues and have the capability to stop the action immediately. Either through direct access to an abort button, or direct communication with the automation operator who accesses that button.
Was Michaels at the dress rehearsal, no. Should he have been, yes. Should someone have gone through the environment and what was happening onstage around him, of course. Did someone talk to him and explain everything, he says no. He "missed his mark" and was at fault for that and for missing rehearsal BUT ultimately and in spite of that, there are others to blame for the accident. What happened to him, should not have happened. I said that at the time and realized the repercussions of such a dangerous mistake. Most people here laughed the incident off which was extremely distasteful.

ghostlight2
#19Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 2:52pm

I agree the ridicule is uncalled for, Tag. Whatever you think of the man, he was badly injured. However...whether it's rehearsed extensively or not, the automation guy is watching, as are stage managers. No one takes this sort of thing lightly. The automation operator most definitely has access to an e-stop button. The problem is, a huge set piece like that does not stop quickly, and by the time Bret decided to take another bow, it was far too late to stop it. No one could know he was going to do that.

Interesting if you parse out Bret's lawyer's statement. He says that Bret was not told at the rehearsal that a set piece would be moving. Of course not. He wasn't at the rehearsal. His band was though, and you see them get clear in a hurry. Do you really believe that the professionals that run the Tonys didn't tell him about the set piece - or even his band? It's a ridiculous claim to make.

He didn't take the warnings seriously, and maybe like the people who cross the street against a light, he just assumed they'd stop it or slow it down for him.

There were three ways to avoid that accident: As MandyMoo suggested, you could make sure everyone is clear before completely bringing the piece in, which is not really possible. The piece is either moving at its programmed speed or it isn't. There really isn't an in-between. They could have teched it less tightly, making sure everyone was completely clear before bringing the piece in, which would affect the next performance which had already begun and/or add time to the show, which the Tonys definitely don't need - or Bret could have just done what he was supposed to do.

A stage can be a very dangerous place to be, and the people onstage bear responsibilty for their own safety. The set did not come in early. The technician did not make a mistake. BRET did. He was not where he should have been. I'm sorry for what happened to him, but I lay the blame squarely on his shoulders.
Updated On: 3/26/11 at 02:52 PM

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EponineAmneris
#20Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 3:05pm

He was not at rehearsal.

He did not pay attention and missed his mark. He was hamming it up and took an extra bow, throwing off the timing.

He wants to blame someone for the scary things he went through and make some money.

He should blame HIMSELF, not the Tony Awards. They are NOT at fault. No one attached to the awards did anything wrong, including the set operator.

I feel bad for what he went through... Which had nothing to do with what happened at the Tony's... THREE YEARS AGO.


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#21Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 3:12pm

What I think some people are missing is that the set piece apparently didn't come down on him. He was totally clear of it when it was flown in. But then he turned and walked into it. I'm not sure how anyone on the fly deck is to make sure that someone isn't going to walk into a set piece after it's lowered. That's a lot different from making sure the area you are flying something into is clear at the time.

And he admitted he wasn't where he was told to be, right? Did he think they told him where to be just for fun and not for a reason? Is he so stupid that he didn't understand that backstage during an awards show is a dangerous place to be?

There's a reason accidents are called accidents. It's because they are accidental. I get tired of people looking for blame when there really is none to be given.


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#22Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 4:21pm


I guess no one saw that Almira had already posted a thread on this...


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#23Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 4:23pm

I guess that Almira didn't see this thread was posted a day before his/hers. Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?

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#24Did the Tony Awards also cause Bret's appendectomy?
Posted: 3/26/11 at 4:42pm

AAAAAAAand, scene!


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