...bland and unsuccessful commercial fare (Newsies, the movie)...
The fact that the film was unsuccessful, yet later found success is what gave it cult status. Whether or not you find the film bland commercial fare is completely irrelevant.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
I'd probably contest "Willy Wonka" as a cult movie, though, as it's got a pretty mainstream adoration, almost universally so.
I was actually thinking the same thing. But perhaps it's because it had already achieved more popular status by the time I first saw it on television. I always considered it a classic family film because it had already been treated as such in its annual TV broadcasts.
OK, Matt, OK, it's all over, you can calm down.
Actually, I am calm. I started writing my response, but got interrupted before I posted it while the conversation was continuing. It was just a timing thing.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
For anyone who was there this weekend, who was Jack Scott on for? The weekend of the first preview week seems awfully quick to call out, even if it is a dance heavy show. It could also be dance captains swinging out, I guess, though one of them is a swing.
Also regarding this past weekend, a friend told me that single tickets were sold for lotto price after the Sunday matinee lottery. I'm curious to know if that's been done for each performance or only for select shows.
What about the Manson "cult:? I think the term is too easily thrown about these days. I don't consider the NEWSIES lovers a cult, I call them young gay boys who like to dance with other boys.
The show is selling, give it props. I belong to the cult of RACHEL LILY ROSENBLUM AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!.
The evolution of language and pop culture creates multiple meanings of most words and concepts. Pretty much all dictionaries list both meanings of cults as they pertain to religion and pop culture. The word originated from religious worship and expanded to represent adoration of any subject. But with regards to non-religious pop culture, it's usually only used as an adjective whereas with religion, it's generally used as a noun.
Actually, I remember Newsies getting its popularity with young girls first from the VHS release and Disney Channel airings. But as a gay man, I enjoyed it when I saw the theatrical release, so there's that, too.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
Could someone who has a Playbill from Newies handy answer a question?
What is the name (as listed in Playbill) of the conductor of the orchestra for the show? I've looked at their website and the Playbill website and I can't find that info. Thanks.
ucjrdude902, there are plenty of people here, not in the media, who've expressed disappointment and have explained why they think they've got just cause.
Music: A few good songs Book: Snoopy snore Set: Towering Costumes: Drab Direction: Ho Hum Choreography: Athletic Cast: Energetic
The dancing whether you like it or not is the driving force behind NEWSIES !
It was only a matter of time before the dance styles of competition TV shows hit Broadway. First BURN THE FLOOR with Mary Murphy now with NEWSIES. Who needs a DANCIN’ revival when you can have the Disney brand, a familiar, yet trite story, some catchy tunes, and lots of talented boys dancing? It doesn’t hurt to have a handsome and dashing leading man to legitimize it all. Young girls will swoon.
Sure, the dancing is precision perfect-most of those boys have been winners of dance competitions (both on national television and off) throughout their youth and choreographer Christopher Gattelli has capitalized on it. They’re a super talented bunch that can do amazing dance and acrobatic feats.
The problem theatrically is that most of the dancing looks too darn technical in a classroom, sanitized way. There’s no nuance. Perfect ballet jumps and turns, that while thrilling, have nothing to do with the young boys in this story. Having the boys take turns “going across the floor” (as is known in ballet and jazz class) stands out almost embarrassingly so. Some of the numbers actually stick out as a "dance routine" performed fully presentational. Another poster tried to compare it with the boys dancing in West Side Story. BAD comparison. There was no one like Robbins who could take take Classical ballet movement and give it both humor and humanity. Michael Kidd also gave movement character-just look at the Barn raising sequence in Seven Brides, or the crapshooter ballet in Guys and Dolls. Lots of technique, yet you never quite see the step as it’s been characterized and given a purpose.
It’s hard to put the entire blame choreographer on Gattelli as this is what America is used to seeing. The one thing he could have done better was given the show a little more variety as he uses the same steps over and over throughout the show and they become less effective and certainly don’t serve the plot. But he’s giving audiences what they want: Energetic, athletic and synchronized movement that will bring audiences to their feet and Disney likes that. A lot.
Let’s face it, most audiences don’t know how to deconstruct Broadway dance for its essence and quality-they want big and showy these days. I’ll even add critics to that pool, as they don’t know enough about the art form either.
I imagine reviews will be mixed on this one, but they’ll get alot of mileage out of it.
I’m certain that producer Nigel Lythgoe will eventually have his hand in there somewhere, and you can count on the “boys” dancing on SYTYCD in the near future. Great cross promotion: Former dancers now on Broadway, blah blah blah.....
Actually, three of the cast members have already been on SYTYCD.
Also, in regard to the amazing work done by Gatelli, the choreography done by Kenny Ortega for the movie didn't exactly serve the plot or have this huge, symbolic, over-arching purpose either, and it doesn't have to. It just works. It was all for the spectacle, which is traditional Disney. The choreography, from what I have seen of the stage version by Gatelli, is done in a similar vein to that done by Ortega for the film, but he more than tops it in every single way. Dancing was the cornerstone and (one of) the best parts of the Newsies film, so it shouldn't come as much of a surprise that it is the star of the musical as well. It's what everyone was expecting (in addition to extensive additions, extensions and revisions of Menken's beautiful score and Jack Feldman's lyrics), and it more than delivers in those aspects. In my opinion, Disney has got its hands on a show that will be its biggest hit since The Lion King.