Does CABARET at Barrington Stage mean we will NOT get West End transfer?

[BETTY22]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 10:48am

Barrington Stage Company has announced Cabaret (June 18-July 8)

I'm assuming this would not be happening if we were going to get the London production in NYC any time soon.

Thoughts?

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 10:52am

It’s a monthlong mid-tier regional theatre production. It should have no bearing on any Broadway revival and was announced months ago.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 10:57am

And even if it were close enough to effect any Bway run, Bway trumps regional - they would just have their rights pulled.

 

Heck, years ago, my HS had the rights pulled for Grease because of the Cindy William TOUR coming through Boston within a month of our dates.  

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 11:35am

I think it means that we won't be getting a transfer from June 18th to July 12th...

Cabaret is going to take a long time to reno its theatre. If it's coming in this season, it probably won't be until the Spring. 

Pulling rights 6-11 months before your production opens would be silly... 

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 3:59pm

jkcohen626 said: "I think it means that we won't be getting a transfer from June 18th to July 12th...

Cabaret is going to take a long time to reno its theatre. If it's coming in this season, it probably won't be until the Spring.

Pulling rights 6-11 months before your production opens would be silly..."

And yet that appears to be what happened to the Kennedy Center with Kiss of the Spider Woman, and that rumored Broadway revival is even less concrete than the Cabaret transfer. 

[Play Esq.]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 4:47pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "It’s a monthlong mid-tier regional theatre production. It should have no bearing on any Broadway revival and was announced months ago."

You’re not wrong, but as a nuttmegger…this digs a little bit :-/

[Nicticorax]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 6:25pm

AEA AGMA SM said: "And yet that appears to be what happened to the Kennedy Center withKiss of the Spider Woman, and that rumored Broadway revival is even less concrete than theCabarettransfer."

What I understand with the Kennedy Center Spider Woman is that the KC willingly withdrew. They did not have the rights taken away from them. This may be because they expected their production to be essentially a Broadway tryout and couldn't negotiate that, or some unknown reason. However, everything I've heard points to it being their decision to cancel the show, not the rights holders. Of course, I could be totally wrong--I'm not going off of firsthand info here.

 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 6:49pm

Kennedy Center is MUCH bigger and more high profile than Barrington, and staying in League producers' good graces is essential for the KenCen which makes big money as a tour presenter.

My suspicion at the time was that the cancellation included a "deal-sweetener" by the Spider Woman producers:  covering any costs incurred by the KenCen, and/or giving them a stake in the revival (which could include a pre-Bway or post-Bway engagement). Barrington is a summer stock theatre –– a good summer stock theatre, but the success of shows like On The Town and Spelling Bee is an anomaly, not a standard for them.

[east side story]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 7:34pm

What’s the tea on that London transfer?

[Dylan Smith4]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 7:36pm

I would like to know as well! The only things I have heard are that it's transferring to NYC sometime next season. Don't know anything else. I am hoping to be in London this summer so I will definitely go catch Cabaret once or twice!

[ANewBrainn]

Posted: 3/14/23 at 11:32pm

I mean Signature in VA is doing Sweeney this summer and just did Into the Woods.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 3/15/23 at 12:13am

ANewBrainn said: "I mean Signature in VA is doing Sweeney this summer and just did Into the Woods."

The agreements are different for every show. Some producers & rightsholders don't think regional & amateur productions matter, others do. some only care if it's within X miles of Broadway or a major touring city. I don't believe the data skews one way or the other. When it's an older and oft-seen show (like Sweeney or Woods or Cabaret) I don't think it really matters at all, especially if the raison d'etre of the revival is the stars who played it in London.

[BJR]

Posted: 3/15/23 at 7:28am

Exactly. Remember how Rudin tried to shut down every amateur production of Mockingbird?