Glee just did NOT GETTING MARRIED TODAY... — Page 3

^ Yes, that is something to be counted on here

1) People don't like a show or performer that some or many others like
2) People feel free to say they don't like it

"In regards to the storyline, the original concept was great and it still is, but the creative team knew that us hardcore Gleeks couldn't stand the thought of loosing Lea and Chris. So to me the NYC storyline was just pure genius. Not only can we enjoy the new glee-clubers while still delighting ourselves with the originals, but it also expands the audience so the fans who started watching when they were in High School can transition along with the show"

The cynical part of me believes the only reason they kept Lea and Chris etc was because they had no faith in the "new" class to carry the show. Would love to have seen what ratings would be like if original cast was not on show. In other words, it was not a stroke of genius IMO.

Sorry, I lost interest in Glee when they started focusing more on really annoying offensive "after school special" message story lines instead of just being the fun and campy song-fest it was in the first season. Their adoption storyline was horrifyingly cruel and offensive to me, in particular. You're going to have her birth mother use her friend to seek her out and force her to contend with that issue and then have said birth mother tell her they can't have a relationship and run off and adopt a baby? Anyone who knows anything about adoption, birth parents, or knows an adoptee (or is one) would recognize how emotionally cruel and manipulative that plotline was, in addition to how wildly unrealistic. But that's not the only issue, there were so many more like their storyline regarding Mercedes' weight, and I have a few issues with their representation of lesbianism and teenage sexuality as well.

In short, not everyone who hates Glee is doing it to be cool and counter-culture. That show has some real issues in the' writing and there's no reason to pretend it doesn't when it's being discussed.

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Updated On: 2/16/13 at 03:41 PM

Believe it or not, I thought Glee was positively brilliant for the first 12 episodes. It was a terrific dark comedy along the lines of Election or Heathers and the song choices always made sense and enhanced the story or touched on what the characters were feeling.

Then, it came back after the break and it was a completely different show. It no long made sense. It started having "special" episodes of all Madonna or Britney Spears songs just for the hell of it. It became all about selling iTunes downloads. The music has rarely fit into the story ever since. Heck, at least they let Emma sing "Not Getting Married Today" at an actual wedding. Knowing those crappy writers, they could have just shoehorned it into a scene at an all you can eat buffet or car wash or something.

Kurt's "Rose's Turn" wouldn't have bothered me if I felt his character had earned it in that episode, but he didn't. It felt out of place and too dramatic for what he was going through. They do this with the songs on Glee all the time. I'm sorry, but every time someone gets in a fight or a gets a paper cut, they don't need to sing a big, unrelated showstopper about how much their life sucks when they haven't earned it. I half expect them to sing "I'm Still Here" every time they pass a math test.

The main problem is that the writers no longer care about delivering a consistent quality show or their characters, so why should I. Nothing makes sense. It's like aliens making a show about how they think humans act.

It's a shame, too, cause, like I said, the initial first 12 episodes were terrific.

As for Smash, I couldn't even get through 3 or 4 episodes of that. So mediocre and boring, although I think the cast and music are pretty great.

As would I. As is, I haven't tuned in for 2 or 3 years now. I figured it was beyond redemption and gave up.

"Fact, Megan Hilty is very talented but has ZERO star quality, BIG difference. After an entire season she is still not a star."

Um, how is that a fact? She's stuck on a terribly written show about a subject most of America doesn't really care about. What does that have to do with her personal qualities as a performer? Having actually SEEN Hilty live in some of her better performances (Gentleman Prefer Blondes, 9 to 5, Wicked, etc.), I can say that she does have a great star quality onstage in my opinion and based on the buzz that surrounded her especially in Gentleman Prefer Blondes and 9 to 5, many agree with me.

If she ever takes another role in the ensemble again, I'll eat my hat. The way you talk about Hilty is demonstrative of the problem most on this board have with Glee fans. You can't take criticism. There are legitimate discussions to be had about the direction Glee has taken and the writing of the show, as I pointed out earlier in the thread. If you're not interested in discussion and instead are just interested in fangirling Lea Michele, this ain't the place for you.

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After an entire season she is still not a star. Lea broke out after the pilot.

That's possibly the DUMBEST thing I've read on this board in a while. Lea "broke out" after the pilot? That's because SHE WAS THE LEAD. The first season of Glee was completely centered around Rachel. Smash is centered around 20 million people equally with Karen slightly edging everyone else out as the main character. I'll put it to you this way, after both Glee and Smash are over, who is going to get more work? Megan Hilty. A) Because she is more talented/capable of doing multiple styles. And B) because people can actually stand to work with her.

And many of the people here are dead set in support of Glee. And both sides are fine.

Oh, to live in a world with differing opinions... How can it be

Phyllis, that is your opinion! And opinions are not welcome here! Be gone!

1. It hurts me that anyone would use "Glee" and "genius" in the same sentence.
2. To whoever was whining about the how reliably Lea Michele is "ravaged" on this board, you do realize that Lea didn't sing the song in question here, right?
3. I'm certain the only reason I "understood" every word Jayma Mays sang in this performance is because I know every single syllable to that song, and might be innately equipped to sing it in my sleep.
4. I actually think Megan Hilty is the one bright light on Smash. Girl can deliver a song. Hard to compare her vocals against Lea's, though -- (a) because you're talking such different vocal styles, but most because (b) all. the. autotune.

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