#51
Posted: 3/20/07 at 11:43am
I agree so much with QueenFrancine and JLYLover.
JERSEY BOYS on Leno TONIGHT! — Page 3
#52
Posted: 3/20/07 at 11:43am
I taped the performance so I haven't had the chance to watch it and I cannot comment on the show. I have seen the show 3 times in NY (twice w/ JLY and once with Michael Longoria) and once in San Fran (w/ Jarrod Spector as Frankie) Overall the NY cast is my favorite, especially JLY and Christian. But I really enjoyed the SF cast and I though Erich Bergen and Jarrod were pheonomenal.
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#53
Posted: 3/20/07 at 11:48am
I don't think there's ever been this much resistance to a tour cast. Chill, guys!
Personally, I was never excited about Jersey Boys from any of the promotional performances I had seen the OBC give, and I felt the same way about the tour cast tonight. Without the context of the show, I think the songs seem empty and kind of boring.
WickedOne, I'm seeing Jarrod tonight, I'm so excited!
Personally, I was never excited about Jersey Boys from any of the promotional performances I had seen the OBC give, and I felt the same way about the tour cast tonight. Without the context of the show, I think the songs seem empty and kind of boring.
WickedOne, I'm seeing Jarrod tonight, I'm so excited!
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#54
Posted: 3/20/07 at 12:06pm
Okay, I am going to chime in and agree with QueenFrancine and JLYLover. I have seen both casts. I have seen the understudy in SF and he has a great falsetto. Christopher Kale Jones does not. If you have listened to the OBC you will hear the likeness to Frankie Valli's voice. The performance last night bore no resemblance to that. I was amazed when I heard JYL's singing. It's very tough to hit those high notes every night. I loved Erich Bergen's performance in SF. He almost overshadowed the lead. Back to lurking.
#55
Posted: 3/20/07 at 12:29pm
Yeah I'm not really buying the whole "it was the tv" defense (other then at the beginning). I think they just had a really bad off-night.
Updated On: 3/20/07 at 12:29 PM
#56
Posted: 3/20/07 at 12:33pm
I'm confused as to how one can evaluate the "personality" or lack thereof of the performers in their roles from a three minute singing clip.
I have seen the SF touring cast and I can say that they are talented, energetic, and clearly distinguishable from each other. I have not seen the NY cast so I can't compare them, and I have yet to see the Leno clip; it may not be the best representation of the cast, but making sweeping generalizations about the touring cast based on three minutes is silly, frankly. Yes, it was meant to drum up interest and yes, anyone can have an opinion on what they saw, but to say that the tour cast is untalented or whathaveyou based on it... and thanks for the scorn towards us poor backwards West Coasters who just don't know any better. That's sweet, really.
I have seen the SF touring cast and I can say that they are talented, energetic, and clearly distinguishable from each other. I have not seen the NY cast so I can't compare them, and I have yet to see the Leno clip; it may not be the best representation of the cast, but making sweeping generalizations about the touring cast based on three minutes is silly, frankly. Yes, it was meant to drum up interest and yes, anyone can have an opinion on what they saw, but to say that the tour cast is untalented or whathaveyou based on it... and thanks for the scorn towards us poor backwards West Coasters who just don't know any better. That's sweet, really.
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#57
Posted: 3/20/07 at 12:56pm
I recommend y'all check out the press clip on Erich Bergen's site...
And in a sick way, I recommend Erich Bergen check out this thread.
http://www.erichbergen.com/
And in a sick way, I recommend Erich Bergen check out this thread.
http://www.erichbergen.com/
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#58
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:00pm
.2 seconds of Christian Hoff on ANY performance and you see his character shining through. Truly.
I'm really not trying to be mean, I'm just throwing my opinion out there. (and seeing who catches it ;-]) I have NOT seen the SF cast, however, my friend Janet in CA sent me some "clips" from the show. While watching scenes, I was not all too impressed. So, I have seen other things besides this one appearance. Now, you may reply saying I cannot rely on the sound quality or the tape quality or the whatever quality, but I have seen the OBC live and many "clips" and they're phenomenal even with the lack of "quality" in the tape. So, the only quality that's lacking is the quality of performance given by these 4 men. Again, this is just my opinion! I just felt the need to publicly express myself. I never felt this way about an OBC. It just seems these 4 guys can't ever be replaced.
Best,
Francine
I'm really not trying to be mean, I'm just throwing my opinion out there. (and seeing who catches it ;-]) I have NOT seen the SF cast, however, my friend Janet in CA sent me some "clips" from the show. While watching scenes, I was not all too impressed. So, I have seen other things besides this one appearance. Now, you may reply saying I cannot rely on the sound quality or the tape quality or the whatever quality, but I have seen the OBC live and many "clips" and they're phenomenal even with the lack of "quality" in the tape. So, the only quality that's lacking is the quality of performance given by these 4 men. Again, this is just my opinion! I just felt the need to publicly express myself. I never felt this way about an OBC. It just seems these 4 guys can't ever be replaced.
Best,
Francine
#59
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:03pm
Deven May scared me last nite on the show.
A. The sound was terrible and you could barely hear parts.
B. It came off really cheesey to me.
C. I do not think they sounded nearly as good as OBC.
A. The sound was terrible and you could barely hear parts.
B. It came off really cheesey to me.
C. I do not think they sounded nearly as good as OBC.
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#60
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:03pm
Thank you for being yet another tour detractor but in a civilized way. But am I completely wrong to be suspicious that you joined today?
But am I completely wrong to be suspicious that you joined today?
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#61
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:09pm
I've been reading these things for years, but I never joined the club. I saw people posting today and I felt the need to chime in on this conversation!
Best,
Francine
Best,
Francine
#62
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:10pm
I've been to Erich Bergen's blog he is the only one i do like...plus I'm sure he wouldn't really care about this thread because it's just people's opinions...so yeah...
Anyway Christian Hoff doesn't even need to speak and you get a sense of who Tommy is. I too saw these clips...and i was just shocked at the casting. I AM NOT SAYING THEY AREN'T TALENTED. I am however saying I think that they were a poor choice for Jersey Boys. I mean you would think maybe there would be people better suited for th roles out there. But I guess the OBC cast is a once in a lifetime find and once again you are right QueenFrancine they are impossible to replace.
Anyway Christian Hoff doesn't even need to speak and you get a sense of who Tommy is. I too saw these clips...and i was just shocked at the casting. I AM NOT SAYING THEY AREN'T TALENTED. I am however saying I think that they were a poor choice for Jersey Boys. I mean you would think maybe there would be people better suited for th roles out there. But I guess the OBC cast is a once in a lifetime find and once again you are right QueenFrancine they are impossible to replace.
#63
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:12pm
Oh and by the way Lizzie people join message boards to give their opinions...so i guess that answers your question.
#64
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:14pm
I am however saying I think that they were a poor choice for Jersey Boys. I mean you would think maybe there would be people better suited for th roles out there.
I'm so sorry you aren't artistic director of the La Jolla playhouse, because you certainly know better than Des McAnuff!
I'm so sorry you aren't artistic director of the La Jolla playhouse, because you certainly know better than Des McAnuff!
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#65
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:17pm
Umm I believe Tara Rubin does the casting if I'm not mistaken...
#66
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:17pm
Well, I'm sure the casting people did an exhaustive search, and I'm sure San Francisco audiences aren't complete backwoods hicks to be taken in by... whatever.
I would suggest that perhaps the first cast people see is the cast that sticks with them, and it can be hard to accept other people in the roles. Especially when compared to people briefly seen on the television.
In the end, you like what you like, and maybe the OBC is this shining star that can never be attained by another cast. It's possible. I haven't seen them, though, and I liked the SF cast just fine.
I would suggest that perhaps the first cast people see is the cast that sticks with them, and it can be hard to accept other people in the roles. Especially when compared to people briefly seen on the television.
In the end, you like what you like, and maybe the OBC is this shining star that can never be attained by another cast. It's possible. I haven't seen them, though, and I liked the SF cast just fine.
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#67
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:22pm
We're HIPPIE hicks, dammit!
Home of earthquakes, fires, philandering mayors with crazy stalkers, non-World Series-winning baseball teams, AND pre-Broadway flops that start with L!
AND WE HAVE AWFUL, AWFUL FIRST NATIONAL TOURS. DON'T FORGET.
Rah rah rah.
Home of earthquakes, fires, philandering mayors with crazy stalkers, non-World Series-winning baseball teams, AND pre-Broadway flops that start with L!
AND WE HAVE AWFUL, AWFUL FIRST NATIONAL TOURS. DON'T FORGET.
Rah rah rah.
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Updated On: 3/20/07 at 01:22 PM
#69
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:26pm
lol
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#70
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:26pm
Wow! Calm down. Don't have a stroke in my office!
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#71
Posted: 3/20/07 at 1:28pm
"The OBC is much better..."
I agree
They were okay.
But I kept saying "I miss the OBC Jersey Boys!"
I agree
They were okay.
But I kept saying "I miss the OBC Jersey Boys!"
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#72
Posted: 3/20/07 at 2:07pm
Wait, weren't we yuppie hicks? I'm so confused.
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#73
Posted: 3/20/07 at 2:09pm
It was hard for me to watch this and not say to myself, JLY does it better or Christian does it better basically since the NY cast is the one that I've seen.
I liked the tour cast, I didn't love them as much as I love the NY cast.
I liked the tour cast, I didn't love them as much as I love the NY cast.
#74
Posted: 3/20/07 at 3:19pm
We LOVE the SF cast, in fact we won't rush on Tuesday nights or Wed mats because that's when CKJ's understudy is on and, even though we have heard he is good (maybe better) we feel dedicated to our cast. We have seen the show like 6 times. It's funny because some of these reactions are similar to what we though about the OBC when we saw them perform on TV this past New Years Eve. Maybe you just get attached...
#75
Posted: 3/20/07 at 3:19pm
The performance was just out of context, so it felt weird. But still these guys are fantastic live, and this appearance did not do them justice. And go Michael Ingersoll for that solo!
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