Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
Jumpin_J said: "Yes, congrats to the show. It will join the cluster of "niche" shows like A Strange Loop and The Band's Visit of shows that won the Tony, didn't make money, and will likely close by February. That's just a fact. The show has rarely broken $600K weekly and I'm sure it costs at least that much just to keep the lights on. Will they get a bump from Sunday? Probably, but not a long lasting one. David Stone who produced Wicked has deep pockets and wanted that Tony. Well he got it at the expense of his fellow investors. Hope it was worth it."
I have grown a bit weary of this fact-free narrative. If you’re going to come on a Broadway message board and act like a know-it-all, try using Google and doing some basic research. I don’t know yet whether Kimberly Akimbo will recoup, but The Band’s Visit did. So did Fun Home, another ‘niche’ musical that also recouped on tour and is performed constantly in regional and community theaters. There are other smaller musicals that have gone on to greater success, with or without Tony’ Awards: Dear Evan Hansen, Come From Away, Hadestown. All niche efforts that have made investors plenty.
We all will be watching to see how Kimberly Akimbo does during the next few months. It has low running costs, so the show doesn’t need to turn into MJ to become a financial success. But the future isn’t written. Why don’t you wait and see before pronouncing Kimberly Akimbo a flop? Neither one of us knows.
Further, while I didn’t like Kimberly Akimbo nearly as much as critics and Tony voters, even while admiring the performances, niche shows like it are admirable efforts that I want to succeed. Otherwise, we will get nothing but jukebox musicals, revivals with big names, and adaptations of popular films. Those all have their place, but so do artistically ambitious musicals for adults.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/21
Jumpin_J said: "Yes, congrats to the show. It will join the cluster of "niche" shows like A Strange Loop and The Band's Visit of shows that won the Tony, didn't make money, and will likely close by February. That's just a fact. The show has rarely broken $600K weekly and I'm sure it costs at least that much just to keep the lights on. Will they get a bump from Sunday? Probably, but not a long lasting one. David Stone who produced Wicked has deep pockets and wanted that Tony. Well he got it at the expense of his fellow investors. Hope it was worth it."
It is not as if investors were held at gunpoint until their checks cleared. They knew they show they were investing in and no doubt were well aware of the possible financial risks and rewards.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
Kimberly Akimbo is sold out tonight. The last available tickets were a pair of premium seats for more than $200 each.
Jumpin_J said: "It will join the cluster of "niche" shows like A Strange Loop and The Band's Visit of shows that won the Tony, didn't make money, and will likely close by February. That's just a fact."
It's not really a cluster: A Strange Loop was actually the first Best Musical in a couple of decades that didn't make money. It remains to be seen whether Kimberly Akimbo will make it two in a row, or if it will join admittedly niche shows like Fun Home and The Band's Visit and eke out a small profit based on the Tony win. I sure hope it does, because I want to see more shows like this one.
Understudy Joined: 11/17/17
While I do think Kimberly Akimbo's sales will rise up significantly, I see it having a similar outcome as A Strange Loop in that it sees a boost and then falls off after about 8-12 weeks. Whoever said KA costs 400k per week is wrong; it is 570k, a much higher number than many thought. I see it lasting through at least September, maybe January if it holds it out a little longer. The reason I say this is because Tony viewership has been significantly down since the mid 2010s, when shows like Fun Home and A Band's Visit won and had a healthy run and recouped. I think KA can (and likely will) hit 700k, but probably not higher than 800k, through the remainder of the summer. The size of the theatre is very small, and this show still won't appeal to tourists as much, regardless of the Tony win. I think Some Like It Hot will see an increase in sales due to the fact that the small amount of tourists that actually DID watch the Tony's are more likely to be intrigued by that show rather than KA, just based off of their performance alone. I wish all shows a long and healthy run, but we do have to think logistically given this is a business.
BossBroadway said: "While I do think Kimberly Akimbo's sales will rise up significantly, I see it having a similar outcome as A Strange Loop in that it sees a boost and then falls off after about 8-12 weeks. Whoever said KA costs 400k per week is wrong; it is 570k, a much higher number than many thought. I see it lasting through at least September, maybe January if it holds it out a little longer. The reason I say this is because Tony viewership has been significantly down since the mid 2010s, when shows like Fun Home and A Band's Visit won and had a healthy run and recouped. I think KA can (and likely will) hit 700k, but probably not higher than 800k, through the remainder of the summer. The size of the theatre is very small, and this show still won't appeal to tourists as much, regardless of the Tony win. I think Some Like It Hot will see an increase in sales due to the fact that the small amount of tourists that actually DID watch the Tony's are more likely to be intrigued by that show rather than KA, just based off of their performance alone. I wish all shows a long and healthy run, but we do have to think logistically given this is a business."
Didn’t I read that Tony awards viewership was actually up this year?
Understudy Joined: 11/17/17
It's up from last year and 2021, which were historically low numbers. However, it is still significantly down from prior years. Viewership was great when Fun Home and A Band's Visit won, but it it's not looking good viewership-wise this year. It's still VERY low.
BossBroadway said: "It's up from last year and 2021, which were historically low numbers. However, it is still significantly down from prior years. Viewership was great when Fun Home and A Band's Visit won, but it it's not looking good viewership-wise this year. It's still VERY low."
I respect your point, but I can't remember anyone else saying "viewership was great" regarding the Tony Awards in my lifetime.
Where are people getting their numbers for these running costs? I've seen 400k, 480k, 570k, and more and every time it's someone confidently proclaiming it without a source.
Stand-by Joined: 11/8/12
Hey all! Sooo happy Kimberly won! I'm just wondering if anyone got to see Betsy go on for Bonnie? I'd love to hear about it!
Understudy Joined: 11/17/17
kdogg36 said: I respect your point, but I can't remember anyone else saying "viewership was great" regarding the Tony Awards in my lifetime.
I mean, viewership is never "great" with the Tony's...but it's definitely clear when viewership is down much lower than it should be to really advertise and sell these shows.
jkcohen626 said: Where are people getting their numbers for these running costs? I've seen 400k, 480k, 570k, and more and every time it's someone confidently proclaiming it without a source.
This number is from the Broadway Journal, which tends to be very accurate when it comes to capitalization and running costs. It was notated that these running costs were in the SEC filing when raising money for it.
TamzBway said: "Hey all! Sooo happy Kimberly won! I'm just wondering if anyone got to see Betsy go on for Bonnie? I'd love to hear about it!"
There was a pre-Tonys interview with Milligan a few weeks ago where the interviewer brought up that Milligan has yet to miss a single performance.
quizking101 said: "TamzBway said: "Hey all! Sooo happy Kimberly won! I'm just wondering if anyone got to see Betsy go on for Bonnie? I'd love to hear about it!"
There was a pre-Tonys interview with Milligan a few weeks ago where the interviewer brought up that Milligan has yet to miss a single performance."
Betsy went on for Bonnie last week for the first time. I believe on Saturday.
ColorTheHours048 said: "quizking101 said: "TamzBway said: "Hey all! Sooo happy Kimberly won! I'm just wondering if anyone got to see Betsy go on for Bonnie? I'd love to hear about it!"
There was a pre-Tonys interview with Milligan a few weeks ago where the interviewer brought up that Milligan has yet to miss a single performance."
Betsy went on for Bonnie last week for the first time. I believe on Saturday."
Betsy was recently on for Alli for the first time. I didn’t realize for Bonnie as well.
Cross-post from my Instagram last night after their first performance as Best Musical.
The first time I saw Kimberly Akimbo, I wept. Openly. And it has managed to catch me off guard in almost the same way every time. And yet? It’s one of the funniest shows I’ve ever seen. “Surely,” I thought, “there is some obscure German word for this feeling.”
But David Lindsay-Abaire’s book tells you exactly what it is, not foreign or obscure at all. Bittersweet. “The bitter sweets.” Laughing so hard, you cry; or crying so hard, you have to laugh. Very specifically, the feeling of overwhelming joy and sadness existing alongside each other.
That is Kimberly Akimbo in a nutshell; the theatrical manifestation of that happy-sadness; potent enough to conjure up the memory of your first kiss, the first time you left home, the last time you saw your grandmother in the hospital, birthdays, reunions, all of it. It catches in your chest like a sob, and comes out a guffaw.
Long story short, musicals like Kimberly Akimbo make me grateful to be alive to see them. I am not paid or bribed to say that or to see it as many times as I have (up to 7 now); just a painfully sincere theatre nerd.
@ColortheHours048 - what a beautiful post! This is the one show that I've been wanting to see, but life has interrupted NYC trips for the time being.
I've yet to see the show, but was reading the Deadline review. Can someone elaborate on the following? I'm cool with spoilers :)
"There’s a brief moment when we see Kimberly in a different light, and it draws audience gasps."
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
I don’t know what happened with the matinee, but tonight’s show is sold out too.
I have no idea how long this will last, but Kimberly Akimbo is now a hot ticket after months of discounts.
jvoom said: "I've yet to see the show, but was reading the Deadline review. Can someone elaborate on the following? I'm cool with spoilers :)
"There’s a brief moment when we see Kimberly in a different light, and it draws audience gasps.""
I think that may be one spoiler you won't want to know about. I gasped and then got choked up.
Stand-by Joined: 5/23/21
I don't know if she can sing but I would love to see Molly Shannon play Kimberly.
uncageg said: "jvoom said: "I've yet to see the show, but was reading the Deadline review. Can someone elaborate on the following? I'm cool with spoilers :)
"There’s a brief moment when we see Kimberly in a different light, and it draws audience gasps.""
I think that may be one spoiler you won't want to know about. I gasped and then got choked up."
Now I really want to know!!
Spoilers for the "different light" moment:
Kim's role in their check-fraud scheme is as Seth's grandma taking him to cash birthday checks. This includes her dressing up as a Grandma. The genius of Victoria Clark's performance is that you really feel like she's a kid. WHen she walks out dressed like a woman in her 70s instead of a kid, it's very shocking. It's gotten a big gasp every time I've seen the show.
Wondering if anyone else was at the show tonight (Thurs 6/15) --- Justin was out--- first time seeing Miguel Gil as Seth, and thought he was fantastic ! His "Good Kid" was excellent !
Gil will also be on for Seth from June 27 — July 2, except for the matinee on the 28th when Alex Vinh is set to play the role.
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