So since that response was filled with sarcasm, did you want to purposely cause a scene on this board or something?
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How is it ANYONE's business why she isn't there? I don't answer to anyone when I take time off to work. My boss doesn't question it unless it is prolonged. And even then, it is still NO ONE else's business.
As long as the producers don't have a problem with it, there IS no problem.
(And yes, no one is entitled to a refund unless their name is over the title.)
The things you have a beef with should be with the producers "allowing" it not the actress. The producers care about box office sales. Karen's absences don't sseem to be hurting that at all.
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'Yet, if she is going to be inconsistent in her appearances then the producers should issue some sort of statement rather than leave the public and the producers even, to guess whether or not she'll be going on.'
'Producers knowingly giving leads time off when other leads are on vacation is unacceptable.'
Okay, I don't understand you. Why she is missing performances - who knows. But truthfully, many people outside of the theater community don't have a clue who Karen Olivo is nor do they care. Most of these people are paying to see this show is because it is a classic. Therefore, in the case of West Side Story, I disagree and do not find it completely unacceptable if producers allow a lead to take a day off if another lead is on vacation.
That said, it doesn't justify Karen Olivo missing performances constantly because she feels like it; however, what she does is her business, and if you happened to catch her on a day when she was absent, oh well. You say you were happy with the understudy's performances, so why don't you just leave it at that? The rumblings on this board were regarding absences because of her sickness after the Tony Awards. Also, I support her if she wants to spend as much time with her husband before he leaves for the West Coast for a few months. How would you feel if your significant other was going away for a while? Perhaps she has spoken to producers about this. You don't know the situation. The producers aren't obligated to issue a statement, unless she was going to be out for an extended period of time or her absence would have an affect on the show's weekly gross/audience (such as when Hugh Jackman was absent from Boy From Oz). They announce it in the Playbill and understudy board the day of the show.
If she is, in fact, missing performances for the heck of it, then in the end she is only hurting her own career and has no bearing on you.
'Also, does anyone know when her husband is actually leaving? Because if it isnt TODAY or MONDAY, why not spend the night out on a Monday when the show is dark?'
Because it is her business. As I mentioned, I support her for trying to spend time with her husband before he leaves.
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I do think that, on Broadway, you go to see the show, never the performer.
This might sound silly or unfair, but you pay to see the show, period. Her name is not above the title so, it doesn't matter why she's not on, either for the worst or emergencies or because she was given permission to take the night off to walk around. It's a job.
The end.
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1. I'm not most people, and know who she is and would've liked to see her performance (what's the big deal?) 2. If you find it acceptable for two leads of an arguably three lead show to be out, your opinion. 3. If my significant other was leaving town to put food on the table, I'd be ecstatic. Why should she miss work to be with her husband when there is a dark day, and ample time before shows? I'm sure she hasnt been the only one to be in this situation of having a significant other in another city/moving to another city for work.
I dont know the situation. I dont know her business, but whatever the reason may be - because I wanted to see her performance and didnt get to, I have the right to be disappointed and the right to post such a disappointment.
People act like it's the end of the world when a certain performer is not present. Then again, I go see a show for the show itself, not for who's in it. Thus, I can't empathize, I guess. But this is ridiculous.
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This annoys me that people are making such harsh statements on Olivo when they have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA OF HER CIRCUMSTANCES. it could be her voice she has had problems with that and that wouldn't affect her physical ability to walk outside. Her upper register could be shot so she can't sing the high notes but can still talk. Let her have her privacy and integrity instead of creating rumors.
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"I'm not most people, and know who she is and would've liked to see her performance (what's the big deal?)"
The big deal is when you come on here blasting a performer for her level of unprofessionalism. You seem to be more than just slightly disappointed in the fact that she was absent for that specific performance.
"If you find it acceptable for two leads of an arguably three lead show to be out, your opinion."
Yes, I do find it not that big of a deal when it is the show's name that sells (ie: Jersey Boys, Wicked), not the specific performer himself or herself.
"If my significant other was leaving town to put food on the table, I'd be ecstatic. Why should she miss work to be with her husband when there is a dark day, and ample time before shows? I'm sure she hasnt been the only one to be in this situation of having a significant other in another city/moving to another city for work."
The fact that he will be gone for quite some time says it all. I am sure she is happy that he will be bringing in money, but no matter what the reason for his absence, kudos to her for wanting to spend as much time with him before he leaves. And not just in between show times.
ETA: And yes, I agree she has a responsibility to her show, so if she is in fact taking time off for no good reason at all, then in the end she is only hurting herself. If she had a voice problem, she is still well enough to go out, but not perform. Had she performed when she wasn't in top shape, people would have complained she should have called in sick today.
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I do think it's important to note that very few people on this thread have been trashing her...most have been here supporting her.
And I agree: the op did't start this thread JUST to voice dissappointment. The OP had a hissy fit.
I had tix to see a favored performer for both of his final shows before leaving on tour. The PRODUCERS pulled him for a tour rehearsal for his 2nd to last show. 75% of the audience (my guess) was there to see him and say goodbye. Disappointed yes....devastated? Nope. Did they publically explain why? Nope. Did they offer refunds? Of course not. I still saw the show and still enjoyed it.
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Okay, to the OP... Are you trying to tell me that you never need to take personal days from YOUR job? Oh, or that you would try to spend time with your significant other before they leave for a long period of time? If so, good for you... seriously I wish I was capable of doing that .... but the vast majority of people would have taken the day off for those reasons. I know this is Broadway and that she just got a Tony Award, but everyone has to deal with what is delt to them on a daily basis and make tough choices. We don't even if know for sure if those are the reasons she was out, and you know what, it is not our business. As my boss says "Sh*t happens".
It is ridiculous to make a big fuss over something like this.
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millie/dramamama611, disappointed that she wasnt in. more than disappointed that absences arent better handled in the theater community, especially the reporting/announcement of them.
withoutlovewithoutU, if you think it's so ridiculous - dont read the thread much less comment on it, especially so late into it.