Miss Saigon 2017
StageyAndProud
Swing Joined: 1/17/15
#25Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 8:28am
Rumours are Jeremy Jordan as Chris and Joshua Henry as John.
I would love to see Rachelle Ann Go transfer with the production. She was an incredible Gigi and really brings in the asian audiences.
I would love to see Stephanie J Block as Ellen but she will be busy with Falsettos and she is so much better than then role.
AEA AGMA SM
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
#27Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 11:15am
Mr. Nowack said: "I think the Ellen song on the OLC is the most effective. It portrays the conflict she's going without making her too unlikeable.
The track is called "Now That I've Seen Her" but I think the song by that title is a different one (if that makes any sense)."
Claire Moore, the original Ellen, recorded "It's Her or Me" for the 2 disc London cast album. By the time they released a highlights CD "It's Her or Me" had been changed to "Now That I've Seen Her," which retained the same melody as "It's Her or Me" and they had Claire Moore re-record the song. For some reason, though, on the 2 disc album the track was labelled as "Now That I've Seen Her" even though the song on the recording was "It's Her or Me."
On iTunes, at least, they have updated the 2 disc album to include "Now That I've Seen Her." I'm curious which song you get if you buy a newer version of the OLC 2 disc album on CD.
RW3
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#28Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 12:03pm
StageyAndProud said: "Rumours are Jeremy Jordan as Chris and Joshua Henry as John.
I would love to see Rachelle Ann Go transfer with the production. She was an incredible Gigi and really brings in the asian audiences.
I would love to see Stephanie J Block as Ellen but she will be busy with Falsettos and she is so much better than then role.
I would highly doubt that Jeremy Jordan will be Chris because of his role on Supergirl unless they kill his character off.
ebontoyan
Broadway Star Joined: 9/22/14
#29Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 12:04pm
The OLC has 'Now that I've seen her'. The new Ellen song from the London revival is called 'Maybe' This is the song found in the revival cast recording which I think what they will bring to Broadway. As I mentioned before, this song makes Ellen more sympathetic, softer. I think Megan Hilty will make a good Ellen!
Updated On: 6/28/16 at 12:04 PM#30Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 12:25pm
I don't think that Megan Hilty would settle for playing "Ellen", which for all intents and purposes is very much a secondary role. I wouldn't expect a big name to fill that part.
Jallenc32
Stand-by Joined: 8/26/14
#31Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 12:43pm
I think Kate Rockwell would be a thoroughly decent choice for Ellen. All-American Girl quality plus a solid vocal range.
#32Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 2:21pm
I think that the problem with Ellen is maybe not the song but the typecast. Ellen as less character development than Kim. So maybe, we need a actress that people will love as first sight.
Don't get me wrong, I really like actress/singer like Claire Moore, Ruthie Henshall and Kerry Ellis. But I would like to see the role played by someone like Laura Osnes. Altought, maybe her voice will be too similar as Kim in "I still believe" duet.
#33Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 2:35pm
SnoopyQc said: "I think that the problem with Ellen is maybe not the song but the typecast. Ellen as less character development than Kim. So maybe, we need a actress that people will love as first sight.
Don't get me wrong, I really like actress/singer like Claire Moore, Ruthie Henshall and Kerry Ellis. But I would like to see the role played by someone like Laura Osnes. Altought, maybe her voice will be too similar as Kim in "I still believe" duet."
At this point in her career Laura Osnes' wouldn't settle in playing a secondary role such as "Ellen" in "Miss Saigon", nor would any other "name" actress with a similar trajectory.
#34Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 3:30pm
At this point in her career Laura Osnes' wouldn't settle in playing a secondary role such as "Ellen" in "Miss Saigon", nor would any other "name" actress with a similar trajectory.
I know that the role is too small for Laura Osnes. I meant someone like Laura Osnes (nice girl, Disney princess type). Alison Luff could be a great choice.
#35Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 3:31pm
Thank you AEA AGMA SM, that's such a bizarre situation. I knew based on a bootleg of the OBC floating around that the song called that has different lyrics but never knew the true title of the song on the double disc OLC that I own.
I still think that song is the best one, "Her Or Me." In terms of character.
Dave19
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/11
#36Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 4:14pm
Actually, there have been 5 different versions of Ellen's solo. (7 if you count the different versions of the same title):
1. What if he doesn't come back home tonight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Q8twl2fe0
2. Who says I'm hurt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqInFvcSq_Y
3. Her or me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDT8fLta5k
4. Now that I've seen her (2 versions actually, first the one with "there are days...there are days when your life clouds over etc, and later the one with "It's alright...It's alright when I just imagine" completely different lyrics and different ending. I think the second version was introduced for Broadway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrLEYgPf6A
5. Maybe (also 2 versions, 2 sets of lyrics and different ending).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ8tuBJ4bLE
#37Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 4:36pm
I can see both sides of the coin with Megan Hilty. But we must remember that she was a lead on a television show and was Glinda in Wicked, but she took a supporting role in Noises Off. She might not be as picky as we think
jonahke
Understudy Joined: 9/25/13
#38Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 5:25pm
Dave19 said: "Actually, there have been 5 different versions of Ellen's solo. (7 if you count the different versions of the same title):
1. What if he doesn't come back home tonight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Q8twl2fe0
2. Who says I'm hurt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqInFvcSq_Y
3. Her or me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDT8fLta5k
4. Now that I've seen her (2 versions actually, first the one with "there are days...there are days when your life clouds over etc, and later the one with "It's alright...It's alright when I just imagine" completely different lyrics and different ending. I think the second version was introduced for Broadway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrLEYgPf6A
5. Maybe (also 2 versions, 2 sets of lyrics and different ending).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ8tuBJ4bLE
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Exactly, the first version of Maybe (the version sung by Stephanie J.B.) is the one they used in Holland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWMA7BKD0Ck
#39Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 6:01pm
Well in that case the one I am describing is in fact "Now That I've Seen Her" number one. The one that begins with the line about your life clouding over.
#41Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 11:06pm
South Florida said: "Ellen should be an actress in her 20's.
"That is true. But Tamsin Carroll, who just played Ellen in the London Revival is 37...
BwayinVan
Broadway Star Joined: 1/24/14
#42Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/28/16 at 11:08pm
RW3
I would highly doubt that Jeremy Jordan will be Chris because of his role on Supergirl unless they kill his character off.
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Especially since Supergirl films in Vancouver...that's a bit of a commute
#43Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/29/16 at 10:21am
I also think that they should bring The Thuy from the West End Revival over, his voice is fantastic.
#44Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/29/16 at 10:37am
StageyAndProud said: "Rumours are Jeremy Jordan as Chris and Joshua Henry as John."
Rumored where?
(They're both outstanding choices, but Jordan's television series, which films in Vancouver, would seem to preclude him from taking on the role.)
#45Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/29/16 at 10:38am
Jallenc32 said: "I think Kate Rockwell would be a thoroughly decent choice for Ellen. All-American Girl quality plus a solid vocal range.
This is an excellent suggestion, and probably the caliber of performer they'll be able to get for this role (which, unless it's been beefed up in this new production, is rather small and underdeveloped).
#46Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/29/16 at 11:08am
"Now That I've Seen Her" starting with "It's alright" was on the MTI libretto I had a few years ago.
Back Row
Leading Actor Joined: 4/14/12
#47Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/29/16 at 11:17am
adamgreer said: "StageyAndProud said: "Rumours are Jeremy Jordan as Chris and Joshua Henry as John."
Rumored where?
(They're both outstanding choices, but Jordan's television series, which films in Vancouver, would seem to preclude him from taking on the role.)
Jordan's in a unique situation with Supergirl. The nature of the show opens up all kinds of possibilities for allowing him to "disappear" for a few weeks or even an entire season without killing off the character. He could get trapped in another dimension, go to the dark side with his father, or end up in some intergalactic prison. He's a popular character on the show. If the right Broadway opportunity came up, and he wanted to take it, I'm sure the writers could find a way for him to take some time off without killing off his character completely. That being said, I'm not sure that Miss Saigon would be enticing enough for him to make that move. Perhaps a Parade revival?
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StageyAndProud
Swing Joined: 1/17/15
#48Miss Saigon 2017
Posted: 6/29/16 at 1:43pm
He was in talks with Cam Mack. I never said he definitely was. But all I am saying is the discussion was there.
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