#76
Posted: 1/21/13 at 6:23pm
Do we really need a Chris that sounds like Kermit the Frog?
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#77
Posted: 1/22/13 at 12:28am
i always felt that Chris should be in this early twenties... maybe 25 at the most and that Ellen should be around his age... i always felt that the productions always cast these characters as fairly older but that never really bothered me too much
if anything... Steven Pasquale has always been the perfect Chris in my opinion when he did the tours... and I always look for a chris that has his same look and voice..so with that being said... I actually think Aaron Tveit would be a good choice.. but I would rather prefer Jeremy Jordan or maybe even Michael Arden... and that's if they go the unknown actor route...
and i've always felt that the engineer should be asian... and have never liked having a white engineer... but whoever suggested Robert Downey Jr... I actually would think that would be brilliant and kinda awesome...
if anything... Steven Pasquale has always been the perfect Chris in my opinion when he did the tours... and I always look for a chris that has his same look and voice..so with that being said... I actually think Aaron Tveit would be a good choice.. but I would rather prefer Jeremy Jordan or maybe even Michael Arden... and that's if they go the unknown actor route...
and i've always felt that the engineer should be asian... and have never liked having a white engineer... but whoever suggested Robert Downey Jr... I actually would think that would be brilliant and kinda awesome...
#78
Posted: 1/22/13 at 10:19am
I agree that Aaron Tveit would be a good choice for Chris. And he would be a middle ground between a total unknown and a big star. Lea needs to be in the movie in some capacity. And I think an unknown would be a good idea for Kim.
#79
Posted: 1/22/13 at 6:29pm
"if anything... Steven Pasquale has always been the perfect Chris in my opinion when he did the tours... and I always look for a chris that has his same look and voice..so with that being said... I actually think Aaron Tveit would be a good choice.."
Spot on! Steven Pasquale was the perfect Chris!
If only they could find a movie Chris who sings like that. Now that would make the movie soar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsjhck8omzo
I agree that Aaron Tveit comes quite close too.
Spot on! Steven Pasquale was the perfect Chris!
If only they could find a movie Chris who sings like that. Now that would make the movie soar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsjhck8omzo
I agree that Aaron Tveit comes quite close too.
Updated On: 1/22/13 at 06:29 PM
#80
Posted: 1/22/13 at 10:02pm
I think Chris should be an up and coming actor, You could cast a more well known name in John and Ellen.
I wonder if they could get Jonathan Pryce involved either as a small role or a cameo, he's well known but I struggle to think where you could put him in, maybe a tourist in Dreamland or Bangkok.
I wonder if they could get Jonathan Pryce involved either as a small role or a cameo, he's well known but I struggle to think where you could put him in, maybe a tourist in Dreamland or Bangkok.
#81
Julia Abueva for Kim. What do you think? So far, she's the one that I've seen on the internet that's close to Kim. She was featured in Oprah a few years ago if I'm not mistaken amongst other talented kids. Not a total unknown because she's been appearing in shows in Asia and did Spring Awakening in Singapore
This is her channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JuliaAbueva
Posted: 1/29/13 at 3:57am
Julia Abueva for Kim. What do you think? So far, she's the one that I've seen on the internet that's close to Kim. She was featured in Oprah a few years ago if I'm not mistaken amongst other talented kids. Not a total unknown because she's been appearing in shows in Asia and did Spring Awakening in Singapore
This is her channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JuliaAbueva
Updated On: 1/29/13 at 03:57 AM
#82
Posted: 1/29/13 at 4:30am
I did some research on the Interwebs to see about the average age. At an appropriately titled website, the average age was 22.
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#83
Posted: 1/29/13 at 7:50am
I always thought of Chris as being in his early twenties, I mean that's just the age, and younger, these guys were when they went out there. Aaron Tveit just seems like such a common sense piece of casting, he's now got Les Mis behind him, it seems he made an impression with those who didn't know of him before, and a lead in new show coming up.
They've been casting for a Kim for the new London production so I honestly wonder if Cameron Mackintosh has been thinking ahead and looking for a girl that could possibly play the role on film too. You can maybe stunt cast the rest of it, John, Ellen, even the Engineer and Thuy and Gigi to a degree. No names spring to mind but there's no reason why they couldn't do that.
They've been casting for a Kim for the new London production so I honestly wonder if Cameron Mackintosh has been thinking ahead and looking for a girl that could possibly play the role on film too. You can maybe stunt cast the rest of it, John, Ellen, even the Engineer and Thuy and Gigi to a degree. No names spring to mind but there's no reason why they couldn't do that.
#84
Posted: 1/29/13 at 10:17am
I just watched a clip of the "the fall of saigon".
I think they should pre-record that song and then make the scene very filmic. And leave the other parts, dialogues and solo numbers to be live recorded.
A combination would be great.
I find that some scenes where a lot of things happen do not really work if done live (master of the house and one day more in les Mis for example). With different techniques they can get more out of scenes like that.
I think they should pre-record that song and then make the scene very filmic. And leave the other parts, dialogues and solo numbers to be live recorded.
A combination would be great.
I find that some scenes where a lot of things happen do not really work if done live (master of the house and one day more in les Mis for example). With different techniques they can get more out of scenes like that.
Updated On: 1/29/13 at 10:17 AM
#85
Posted: 1/29/13 at 11:46am
Can't believe my brain didn't get to this sooner, but you'd think that if this was green-lit tomorrow that Jeremy Jordan would be a possibility too.
Also, just putting this out there, Daniel Dae Kim for The Engineer.
I've always preferred Miss Saigon to Les Mis so I have my fingers crossed for this, it has always felt the most cinematic of the two for me anyway.
Also, just putting this out there, Daniel Dae Kim for The Engineer.
I've always preferred Miss Saigon to Les Mis so I have my fingers crossed for this, it has always felt the most cinematic of the two for me anyway.
Updated On: 1/29/13 at 11:46 AM
#87
Aaron Tveit has a starring role in an upcoming USA TV series, Graceland - about CIA, FBI, Customs agents. Yep, he can be our guy Chris
Posted: 1/30/13 at 3:05pm
Aaron Tveit has a starring role in an upcoming USA TV series, Graceland - about CIA, FBI, Customs agents. Yep, he can be our guy Chris
#88
Posted: 1/30/13 at 4:11pm
God not Aaron Tveit, zero screen presence and a pretty weak actor.
Daniel Dae Kim I could see as Thuy, not sure about the Engineer. Youd need a great character actor who can play humour and a dark side at same time.
Chris definately needs to be able to play in early to mid twenties and from a looks and type of actor point of view you cant do better than Chris Evans as a young slightly naive US Marine, just the voice maybe an issue. I like the Chris Pine idea too.
Redmayne is a great actor but is wrong for Chris
Daniel Dae Kim I could see as Thuy, not sure about the Engineer. Youd need a great character actor who can play humour and a dark side at same time.
Chris definately needs to be able to play in early to mid twenties and from a looks and type of actor point of view you cant do better than Chris Evans as a young slightly naive US Marine, just the voice maybe an issue. I like the Chris Pine idea too.
Redmayne is a great actor but is wrong for Chris
#89
^ I know what you mean about the screen presence but let's see how he fairs in Graceland. Who knows, it would develop into something good for him. As for Eddie Redmayne, I vouched for him also because of his talent but maybe not good for Chris role. Chris Evans and Pine are good suggestions but too pretty-boy handsome for Chris IMO. And there's the question of singing.
Posted: 1/30/13 at 4:39pm
^ I know what you mean about the screen presence but let's see how he fairs in Graceland. Who knows, it would develop into something good for him. As for Eddie Redmayne, I vouched for him also because of his talent but maybe not good for Chris role. Chris Evans and Pine are good suggestions but too pretty-boy handsome for Chris IMO. And there's the question of singing.
Updated On: 1/30/13 at 04:39 PM
#90
Posted: 1/30/13 at 5:01pm
i actually think justin timberlake could work as chris
#91
Posted: 1/30/13 at 8:02pm
I think James Snyder would be a great choice for Chris in a Miss Saigon movie.
#92
Posted: 1/30/13 at 8:36pm
I think Chris Evans would be perfect. I think of Chris as like an all-American, guy-next-door type. Singing would likely be an issue, but my faith in Hollywood casting singers is so low that I think they'll probably cast a bad singer anyway.
I agree that Aaron Tveit just doesn't have the film presence. Jeremy Jordan would be a better pick, IMO. I don't think he's the strongest vocally, but he'd still be miles ahead of most Hollywod actors.
Back when this movie was first discussed, someone suggested Cat Tien for Kim and I fell in love with the idea. She's probably too old now though since she's 30. But there must be some other young Vietnamese-descended singers who could be cast.
I agree that Aaron Tveit just doesn't have the film presence. Jeremy Jordan would be a better pick, IMO. I don't think he's the strongest vocally, but he'd still be miles ahead of most Hollywod actors.
Back when this movie was first discussed, someone suggested Cat Tien for Kim and I fell in love with the idea. She's probably too old now though since she's 30. But there must be some other young Vietnamese-descended singers who could be cast.
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
Updated On: 1/30/13 at 08:36 PM
#93
Posted: 1/30/13 at 8:57pm
Christ Evans is already Captain America. How much more American marine can you get?
#94
Posted: 1/30/13 at 10:03pm
The songs Chris has to sing require an extraordinary singer.
Putting someone like Chris Evans in the role would be torture for the actor. And for the audience in the end too.
I watched a lot of clips of Aaron Tveit today and he really surprised me. There are some clips where he really is a Chris, for example clips of the ballad in "Catch me if you can" and some concert performances. His stage/screen presence really is oustanding in the ballads and more sensitive numbers (which are all of the songs of Chris in Miss Saigon too).
I think the feel and energy he conveys there is exactly right for the role of Chris on screen.
Don't base your opinions just on the role of Enjolras in Les Miserables. That is a whole different side of him.
Compare it to Amanda Seyfried's performance in Mean Girls. Does she look like a girl that has the presence of a Cosette? Not at all. But actors can do a lot.
Putting someone like Chris Evans in the role would be torture for the actor. And for the audience in the end too.
I watched a lot of clips of Aaron Tveit today and he really surprised me. There are some clips where he really is a Chris, for example clips of the ballad in "Catch me if you can" and some concert performances. His stage/screen presence really is oustanding in the ballads and more sensitive numbers (which are all of the songs of Chris in Miss Saigon too).
I think the feel and energy he conveys there is exactly right for the role of Chris on screen.
Don't base your opinions just on the role of Enjolras in Les Miserables. That is a whole different side of him.
Compare it to Amanda Seyfried's performance in Mean Girls. Does she look like a girl that has the presence of a Cosette? Not at all. But actors can do a lot.
#95
Posted: 1/30/13 at 10:12pm
"Singing would likely be an issue, but my faith in Hollywood casting singers is so low that I think they'll probably cast a bad singer anyway."
I hope they finally, finally, learn that there are people out there that can sing AND act.
Chris and Kim need to be great singers, period.
But Gigi and Ellen need to be magnificent singers too.
I hope they are not going to compromise as much as they did with the les Mis film.....
You see, in Les Mis, they decided that for some characters good singing wasn't important enough (Javert, Cosette), while I think that if the Cosette was a beautiful lyrical soprano voice and her parts in, for example, One Day More would sound like a bell, it would enhance the emotion of the moment immensely. It IS important. It might be the most important thing in a movie musical. The audience hears every little nuance in singing, every little note and placement evokes an emotion or it does not.
I'm sure a lot of boys with big names could "roar" their way through the role, but all the endless notes and required nuances in timing and placements of the notes to evoke the right emotion require a real singer. It really is the difference between taking the audience on a journey because every little note is right and therefore evokes the right emotion, versus distracting the audience because they feel the actor is faking his way through the material.
I hope they finally, finally, learn that there are people out there that can sing AND act.
Chris and Kim need to be great singers, period.
But Gigi and Ellen need to be magnificent singers too.
I hope they are not going to compromise as much as they did with the les Mis film.....
You see, in Les Mis, they decided that for some characters good singing wasn't important enough (Javert, Cosette), while I think that if the Cosette was a beautiful lyrical soprano voice and her parts in, for example, One Day More would sound like a bell, it would enhance the emotion of the moment immensely. It IS important. It might be the most important thing in a movie musical. The audience hears every little nuance in singing, every little note and placement evokes an emotion or it does not.
I'm sure a lot of boys with big names could "roar" their way through the role, but all the endless notes and required nuances in timing and placements of the notes to evoke the right emotion require a real singer. It really is the difference between taking the audience on a journey because every little note is right and therefore evokes the right emotion, versus distracting the audience because they feel the actor is faking his way through the material.
Updated On: 1/30/13 at 10:12 PM
#96
One of the reasons Aaron Tveit is a suitable Chris is because he is better singing in ballad (songs).
Anyway, any updates on Miss Saigon? Les Mis reached $300 million already. Perhaps they can start planning the movie??? :)
Posted: 1/31/13 at 12:07am
One of the reasons Aaron Tveit is a suitable Chris is because he is better singing in ballad (songs).
Anyway, any updates on Miss Saigon? Les Mis reached $300 million already. Perhaps they can start planning the movie??? :)
#97
Posted: 1/31/13 at 12:51am
i wasnt basing my opinion on aaron just on les mis. chris also requires an elemnt of masculinity, aaron just doesnt have that and is too pretty boy.
anne hathway has proved a tradional belting song doesnt have to be belted out on screen. i could see why god why done as more a pray.
anne hathway has proved a tradional belting song doesnt have to be belted out on screen. i could see why god why done as more a pray.
#98
Posted: 1/31/13 at 7:38am
I think Anne Hathaway is a great actress, but there are reasons that she gets away with this.
Singing a song in complete and utter desperation, sobbing, crying, life has ended, I might as well die, is very touching and she does that really well, but at the same time many of these things are a "cover up" for the not so great singing.
Because let's be honest, her singing is not great, it is ok. Reasonably acceptable.
Now, Fantine's role is very short. If she would wrestle her way through 7 more songs like this, it would get annoying for the audience.
The roles of Chris and Kim have a much wider variety of emotions and therefore singing styles and for those roles it really comes down to mastering the art of singing.
Chris and Kim require NOT to sound like they are close to dying all the time. So the long held, soaring, spirit and emotion-lifting notes of these 2 healthy, young people should be great.
Singing a song in complete and utter desperation, sobbing, crying, life has ended, I might as well die, is very touching and she does that really well, but at the same time many of these things are a "cover up" for the not so great singing.
Because let's be honest, her singing is not great, it is ok. Reasonably acceptable.
Now, Fantine's role is very short. If she would wrestle her way through 7 more songs like this, it would get annoying for the audience.
The roles of Chris and Kim have a much wider variety of emotions and therefore singing styles and for those roles it really comes down to mastering the art of singing.
Chris and Kim require NOT to sound like they are close to dying all the time. So the long held, soaring, spirit and emotion-lifting notes of these 2 healthy, young people should be great.
Updated On: 1/31/13 at 07:38 AM
#99
Posted: 1/31/13 at 8:46am
Dave, I'd like that too, but it's not gonna happen. So I'd be happy with someone like Chris Evans in the role because at least he fits the part, has a lot of screen presence, and is a good actor.
Also, I don't want to have something like the RENT movie where you cast good singers who aren't good screen actors.
Honestly, no one aside from Aaron Tveit and Samantha Barks in the Les Mis film met my standards for good singing. Anne Hathaway came the closest but not even her. Short of casting Broadway people, Hollywood would probably not make me happy singing-wise. And, again, we saw what can happen with that in the RENT movie.
Also, I don't want to have something like the RENT movie where you cast good singers who aren't good screen actors.
Honestly, no one aside from Aaron Tveit and Samantha Barks in the Les Mis film met my standards for good singing. Anne Hathaway came the closest but not even her. Short of casting Broadway people, Hollywood would probably not make me happy singing-wise. And, again, we saw what can happen with that in the RENT movie.
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
Updated On: 1/31/13 at 08:46 AM
#100
Posted: 1/31/13 at 9:50am
"Also, I don't want to have something like the RENT movie where you cast good singers who aren't good screen actors."
One thing does not have to exclude the other.
The thing with movie musicals is, that if you are not a singer, the singing gets in the way of the acting (Russel Crowe, Emmy Rossum, etc). So then you have nothing in the end.
There are a lot of singers out there that are brilliant actors too. And especially if they master the craft of acting through song. Mastering the craft so well, that every little nuance and placement of a word and note counts and does something to the audience.
One thing does not have to exclude the other.
The thing with movie musicals is, that if you are not a singer, the singing gets in the way of the acting (Russel Crowe, Emmy Rossum, etc). So then you have nothing in the end.
There are a lot of singers out there that are brilliant actors too. And especially if they master the craft of acting through song. Mastering the craft so well, that every little nuance and placement of a word and note counts and does something to the audience.
Updated On: 1/31/13 at 09:50 AM
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