Posted: 1/11/24 at 12:47pm
The likes of Tucker Carlson hurt him, and hurt us all. Sad.
Posted: 1/11/24 at 12:54pm
CATSNYrevival said: "greenifyme2 said: "It got me thinking, what would a modern version of this show look like?"
It would look a lot like School of Rock. It’s practically the same story without the nuns and nazis."
I love the idea of School of Rock with nuns and nazis (and dirndles and marionettes).
Let's antique musicals!
Posted: 1/11/24 at 1:16pm
It’s been done, ala Jamie Lloyd and SUNSET BLVD. Keeping the original timeline setting but tossing in modern references and whatnot.
Posted: 1/11/24 at 1:47pm
I happen to love the musical The Wedding Singer, but an antique version about an unlucky in love Depression era jazz singer getting sucked into finance and high society for love DOES sound fun.
Posted: 1/11/24 at 5:06pm
BrodyFosse123 said: "It’s been done, ala Jamie Lloyd and SUNSET BLVD."
I think that's different from making it modern. All lyrics in that show are still about the silent film era, so the show is still about that. Breaking the 4th wall and disrespecting the material can be named a lot of things, but not modern.
Posted: 1/11/24 at 5:25pm
Seb28 said: "Breaking the 4th wall and disrespecting the material can be named a lot of things, but not modern."
Is there any evidence that Andrew Lloyd Webber, Don Black, or Christopher Hampton feel that this production disrespects their work? Those would be the only relevant opinions.
Posted: 1/11/24 at 6:45pm
Singing that you live in a time where microphones do not exist yet, while having a laptop with microphone on your lap is quite literally disrespectful to the material. So that's relevant, even if one of those people adores it. In any case, singing about a time where microphones do not exist is not modern.
Updated On: 1/11/24 at 06:45 PM
Posted: 1/12/24 at 12:58am
BrodyFosse123 said: "Plannietink08 said: "Interesting idea. The issue is that The Sound of Music is a true story, the characters are real people who’s children are still alive today so I’m not sure how well it would go down."
As covered above, THE SOUND OF MUSIC is loosely based on a true story (even the family has claimed this). Aside from Maria and the Captain, the children and all the other characters are fabricated and loose composites of several people - sorry, folks - there was no Liesl or Rolf or even a Baroness. Yes, there were many children in the real family but none of the children in the musical are based on the actual children, not even their character names."
Actually there was a Baroness, but she wasn't the Captain's love interest (that was a princess). The Baroness was a relative, and in fact the children's governess. In real life, Maria wasn't sent to the Trapp villa for that position, but to be a teacher to one of the younger daughters (also named Maria) who was temporarily bedridden do to an attack of scarlet fever.
Updated On: 1/12/24 at 12:58 AM
Posted: 1/12/24 at 2:09am
ALW must have approved that production; and I suspect that he is having it sent over as a giant FU to Broadway.
Posted: 1/12/24 at 12:02pm
Seb28 said: "Singing that you live in a time where microphones do not exist yet, while having a laptop with microphone on your lap is quite literally disrespectful to the material. So that's relevant, even if one of those people adores it. In any case, singing about a time where microphones do not exist is not modern.
Whaa???
Posted: 1/13/24 at 11:25am
joevitus said: "BrodyFosse123 said: "Plannietink08 said: "Interesting idea. The issue is that The Sound of Music is a true story, the characters are real people who’s children are still alive today so I’m not sure how well it would go down."
As covered above, THE SOUND OF MUSIC is loosely based on a true story (even the family has claimed this). Aside from Maria and the Captain, the children and all the other characters are fabricated and loose composites of several people - sorry, folks - there was no Liesl or Rolf or even a Baroness. Yes, there were many children in the real family but none of the children in the musical are based on the actual children, not even their character names."
Actually there was a Baroness, but she wasn't the Captain's love interest (that was a princess). The Baroness was a relative, and in fact the children's governess. In real life, Maria wasn't sent to the Trapp villa for that position, but to be a teacher to one of the younger daughters (also named Maria) who was temporarily bedridden do to an attack of scarlet fever."
The real life Elsa Schraeder was someone called Princess Yvonne, who was the Captain’s first wife’s relative. The Baroness you speak of was a noblewoman who was in charge of the household after Georg’s wife died, and Frau Schmidt was the musical version of her. Franz the butler was real too but his name was Hans in real life and was a Nazi supporter, but he was still loyal to the family. Maria was the teacher to the musical equivalent of Louisa, then added the musical equivalent of Marta as her pupil, and then eventually pretty much became the governess of all the 7 children.
Posted: 1/16/24 at 12:05pm
CATSNYrevival said: "greenifyme2 said: "It got me thinking, what would a modern version of this show look like?"
It would look a lot like School of Rock. It’s practically the same story without the nuns and nazis."
Although I agree with you, I think a more definitive example is "Ted Lasso".
Like TSOM, “Ted Lasso” contains these similar plot points and characters:
- A recognizably established British female musical theater star: Julie Andrews/Hannah Waddingham
- An exceptionally large family with a special talent: Van Trapps/Singing; AFC Richmond/Football
- A “fish out of water” protagonist (Maria/Tedd) who:
1. Joins the family because their colleagues/superiors feel the character is lacking in knowledge, or life skills.
2. Unexpectedly creates significant change for the better within the family.
3. Unexpectedly/Reluctantly becomes involved in a romantic situation.
- An oppressive antagonist from whom the family needs to escape/defeat: Nazi regime/Rupert Mannion and West Ham
- Diegetic vocal performances of songs that are integral to the plot: SOM’s entire score (obviously)/Tedd Lasso (see: Top 10 Best Ted Lasso Musical Moments. Also note how often R&H songs are used, as opposed to others’ whose catalogs are used only once. Some of the vocal performances in Ted Lasso also demonstrate characteristics of juke box musicals.)
- Choreographed dance numbers that are integral to the plot (similar to diegetic sound).
The Number One Reason Why Tedd Lasso is Most Fitting of What a Modern Version of “The Sound of Music” Would Look Like: So Long, Farewell
(Because unlike “School of Rock”, “Tedd Lasso” actually incorporates songs from the R&H catalogue, and this number from TSOM’s score).
Updated On: 1/16/24 at 12:05 PM
Posted: 1/16/24 at 4:50pm
degrassifan said: "joevitus said: "BrodyFosse123 said: "Plannietink08 said: "Interesting idea. The issue is that The Sound of Music is a true story, the characters are real people who’s children are still alive today so I’m not sure how well it would go down."
As covered above, THE SOUND OF MUSIC is loosely based on a true story (even the family has claimed this). Aside from Maria and the Captain, the children and all the other characters are fabricated and loose composites of several people - sorry, folks - there was no Liesl or Rolf or even a Baroness. Yes, there were many children in the real family but none of the children in the musical are based on the actual children, not even their character names."
Actually there was a Baroness, but she wasn't the Captain's love interest (that was a princess). The Baroness was a relative, and in fact the children's governess. In real life, Maria wasn't sent to the Trapp villa for that position, but to be a teacher to one of the younger daughters (also named Maria) who was temporarily bedridden do to an attack of scarlet fever."
The real life Elsa Schraeder was someone called Princess Yvonne, who was the Captain’s first wife’s relative. The Baroness you speak of was a noblewoman who was in charge of the household after Georg’s wife died, and Frau Schmidt was the musical version of her. Franz the butler was real too but his name was Hans in real life and was a Nazi supporter, but he was still loyal to the family. Maria was the teacher to the musical equivalent of Louisa, then added the musical equivalent of Marta as her pupil, and then eventually pretty much became the governess of all the 7 children."
Yes, I know.
Updated On: 1/16/24 at 04:50 PM
