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#126

SMASH

Posted: 1/28/12 at 8:44pm

Re the question of how will they keep both the Hilty and McPhee characters in the show if one of them gets the Marilyn role in an early episode: Is it totally unlikely that one would get the role and the other would be convinced to take a supporting part and understudy the winner? That would create dramatic tension. Hilty's character, for example, could think that the McPhee character will crumble and thereby provide her the opportunity to go on and ultimately save the show. She might perceive that as a better shake of the dice than remaining eternally in some ensemble. Or the lechy director might be involved in some underplay, telling whoever understudies that she is really his first choice and that he will get her on somehow. Etc, etc.

#127

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 4:49am

Two words: Eve Harrington.

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#128

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 9:50am

Allofmylife: Exactly! And ironic too, as Marilyn had the small part (Miss Caswell, was it?) in "All About Eve".

#129

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 10:47am

Well, maybe neither Hilty or McPhee will get the part...

#130

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 11:37am

Not much of a T.V. watcher. Not kidding when I say the last thing I saw on T.V. was some America's Next Top Model rerun...a year ago.

I'm about 3/4 of the way through the Smash pilot and I dig it.

My T.V. habits might change soon, hehe.

Recreation of original John Cameron orchestration to "On My Own" by yours truly. Click player below to hear.

#131

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 12:07pm

is there really this much sexual intrigue in a production of a broadway show?...does the director always have the pick of the girls..or boys in some cases?...and does sex really play a part in who gets which roles?...really?...please enlighten me...

#132

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 12:09pm

Yes.

#133

SMASH

Posted: 1/29/12 at 5:36pm

I had a guy friend that got on Broadway by performing tricks that weren't on his resume.

#134

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 10:42am

Well tomorrow is the big night and I would assume we'll know ratings by Tuesday?

#135

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 11:04am

I had a friend who had sex for a part in a Broadway show.

And then they died.

#136

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 11:17am

Well isn't that unfortunate.

#137

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 11:22am

It's called drama. (I have no idea how often it ACTUALLY happend...but I would assume chorus boys/girls are more likely to fall prey then those being considered for leading roles -- but I know nothing.)

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

#138

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 2:21pm

Thorsten Kaye has landed a recurring role on NBC’s highly-anticipated new musical drama, “Smash.” The series that heralds Steven Spielberg as an Executive Producer debuts “the Monday after the Superbowl” (February 6). Kaye will be playing the love interest of producer Eileen Rand, played by Academy Award winner Angelica Huston.

Kaye will air in at least nine episodes of “Smash”. His character debuts as a bartender named Nick. Kaye is reportedly set to debut on the seventh original episode of the season which is tentatively scheduled for a March air date. The former “All My Children,” star should air through to the conclusion of the fifteen episode first season.

Lucky Anjelica Huston!

#139

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 3:18pm

I have a question about the ratings, since I know how important they are for any TV show, but certainly a show like this with high overhead and a risky subject ...

Since they've already posted the pilot episode online and on-demand on cable channels, and so many of us have already watched it, how does that figure into the Monday night ratings? Or does it?

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."

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#140

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 3:33pm

Good question best12, this has become a very common practice with showtime, where the new NBC head is from, because it generates interest and fans for the show. So by creating these fans you have people tuning in just to see it again and to make sure the show stays on. It also serves them by getting reviews by all the blogs, who have been praising the show heavily so then you have people tuning in to see what the big hoopla is all about. It's kinda like releasing the album early on itunes on and then on CD, you buy it for your ipod so you can listen to it before hand but get the CD anyway for your own personal collection. Despite what some people may think, that this would destroy the show or albums chance of success it doubles the chance of success.

Updated On: 2/5/12 at 03:33 PM

#141

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 3:47pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you release an album in advance on iTunes, those sales count toward the total units sold.

When you're tracking the ratings of a single event, like the broadcast debut of a TV show, do they include any of the "advanced viewings" leading up that broadcast? Are they even tracked at all?

It seems to me there might be a lot of fans (Nielsen ratings families, in particular) that may have "fans" who will have already watched it and may not tune in tomorrow night to see it again. That doesn't mean they didn't see it.

It may generate some additional interest, as you say, but doesn't it also sabotage their overall numbers?

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."

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#142

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:00pm

Now yes, in the past no, i used that as an example because before itunes music companies didn't like online sales because they thought it took away from the numbers when the actual album was released as they found out and as tv has found out that isn't the case. And no it dosn't, all you have to do is look at examples of shows who have done this in the past, shows like the also heavily promoted the big c, dexter, and in more recent seasons weeds. It dosn't detract from the overall viewing, if anything it helps the numbers. In short GOOD WORD OF MOUTH.

Updated On: 2/5/12 at 04:00 PM

#143

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:02pm

It's a gamble. Downloading takes dedication, so only the motivated fans (or computer-proficient fans) will have downloaded it before Monday. It's much easier to sit in front of the TV set or set a DVR. But each person who goes to the trouble to download becomes a potential source of word-of-mouth.

Ultimately, the number of downloads is probably a small fraction of what the ratings have to be tomorrow night. So if each of the people who download tells 5 other people "OMG Smash was SO good--you HAVE to watch it!" and then 3 or 4 of those 5 people tune in, the gamble will have been worth it.

It's part of the remarkable advertising campaign that has made the series seem ubiquitous (in certain circles) even before the first episode has aired.

#144

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:06pm

Downloading is tedious and painful, I agree. I would think only avid fans of this subject and this potential show would wait for that.

But it's also available from virtually all cable TV and dish providers with on-demand. That's how I watched it. No downloading and no waiting. I just found the show listed and hit "play."

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."

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Updated On: 2/6/12 at 04:06 PM

#145

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:10pm

I do think the on demand plays do count towards rating though since only downloads don't... but yes it's a gamble that in many cases pays off in ten fold.

#146

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:26pm

They also aren't likely to base the entire decision about Smash's fate to be only from the first nights ratings.

How is DL'ing it painful? It took me about 60 seconds before I was watching it.

#147

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:31pm

I don't download TV shows, so I'm no expert on how to do it. But when I tried to watch an hour-long show through iTunes on my laptop one time, it said, "You have 45 minutes remaining before it's available." The play button was grayed out, too, so there was no buffer/cache, I guess.

Maybe it's easier than that, and I just didn't know what I was doing.

I know on-demand works fine. You just hit "play" and it starts streaming right away. That, I can handle.

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."

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#148

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 4:57pm

Best12bars, do you have a really slow Internet connection? I can stream a TV show from iTunes without waiting.

#149

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 5:49pm

I have a fast DSL connection. Works great for other things. I was wondering why it was downloading the entire iTunes show (45 min. download time). There was no instant streaming for this (that I could see). It just went straight to a download when I hit the "play" icon.

(Any advice in case I try again in the future?)

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."

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#150

SMASH

Posted: 2/5/12 at 10:43pm

The NY Times posted their review tonight. I'd say overall it's positive and certainly encouraging. They say that it's not perfect, but it has great potential (they love Messing/Borle and their plotlines as well as the new songs). It's also a warning to the writers not to get sucked into a Glee universe by awkwardly sticking in mainstream songs just to be contemporary. I love the reference to Slings and Arrows.

http://tv.nytimes.com/2012/02/06/arts/television/smash-on-nbc-with-debra-messing-and-anjelica-huston.html?ref=arts

"Sing the words, Patti!!!!" Stephen Sondheim to Patti LuPone.

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