NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion- Page 115

[Patronus]

SMASH#2850

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:14am

This Saturday's Doctor Who finale will be a Smash crossover.

[John Adams]

SMASH#2851

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:20am

^^
Doctor...Who?

This is reality, man... Don't start mixing up good TV with tweeny sci-fi.
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[ClydeBarrow]

SMASH#2852

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:23am

Tweeny sci-fi?

"Pardon my prior Mcfee slip. I know how to spell her name. I just don't know how to type it." -Talulah

[Patronus]

SMASH#2853

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:53am

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhlojcE2gN1qcmn3ho1_500.png

[John Adams]

SMASH#2854

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:03pm

OK...
So here's a pictorial representation explaining why Eileen CAN'T fire Ann Harada, but she CAN fire Erin Dilly. Also, how you can tell the differences between "reality" and "SMASHWorld"...

Here are ANN and LINDA:



ANN exists in the real world, whereas LINDA lives in SMASHWorld. You can tell the difference between "real" and "SMASHWorld" because they have different names.

See how ANN looks friendly and sweet, whereas LINDA seems kinda "saucy and spicy"? - don't pay any attention to that. Even in SMASHWorld, that's not "real". What really counts is that they have different names. That's how you can tell what's "real" and what's not.

ANN can't be fired by Eileen because her name is different.

In contrast:



Uh-oh...
Someone has broken the naming rule and created a crack in the Space/Time Continuum. Now, because of this "same name" rift, reality and "SMASHWorld" are the SAME! Without a name change, there is NO WAY to tell the difference between fiction and reality. See how identical they are?

Since that is the case, Eileen CAN fire Erin Dilly. I hope that clears things up.
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:03 PM

[Kad]

SMASH#2855

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:05pm

Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Bernadette Peters never existed.

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

SMASH#2856

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:08pm

Did Will and Grace exist?

[FindingNamo]

SMASH#2857

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:10pm

Thank you for your work on that project John Adams. It seems to me that Erin Dilly should tell Erin Dilly to tell her husband to calm down.

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[Marnie2]

SMASH#2858

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:11pm

Interesting 3 Part interview with SMASH Showrunner Joshua Safran

Part 1
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-rent-showrunner-joshua-safran/

Part 2
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-safran-pt2/

Part 3 to be posted

[John Adams]

SMASH#2859

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:12pm

>> "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Bernadette Peters never existed."

OHHHHH... so close. "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Kristin Chenoweth never existed."

[John Adams]

SMASH#2860

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:14pm

>> "Thank you for your work on that project John Adams."

A lot of the credit has to go to my colleagues on Gallifrey. I couldn't have done it without them.

[Kad]

SMASH#2861

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:17pm

But do Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Ruben-Vega exist? If not, who was in the original production of Rent in the Smash universe?

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

[John Adams]

SMASH#2862

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:23pm

^^^^

Let's do the Time Warp again...

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:23 PM

[Patronus]

SMASH#2863

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:28pm

Actually....a world in which Kristen Chenoweth never existed is A-OK with me!

[John Adams]

SMASH#2864

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:31pm

^^^
Mr. Sulu... Set phasers to "stun".

[Eris0303]

SMASH#2865

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:32pm

((Pssst, John, you've got mail))

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming

"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".

[Someone in a Tree2]

SMASH#2866

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:52pm

"But do Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Ruben-Vega exist? If not, who was in the original production of Rent in the Smash universe?"

According the Safran interview, Jesse Martin was actually standing in front of his own signature on the Rent poster behind him when they shot the first of his office scenes. Once established (supposedly without his express sign off), they had to maintain the poster in its spot for the rest of the series, even to the extent of digitally removing the word bullsh!t everytime it showed up onscreen.

More mysterious to me is how a touchstone set-dec piece like a RENT poster would NOT have merited an explicit discussion about placement with the show runner before being established in a hero set. That decorator must have been giggling all through season 2 at the inadvertent analysis afforded that poster by all of us on these message boards.

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:52 PM

[Marnie2]

SMASH#2867

Posted: 5/15/13 at 4:42pm

Part 3

http://www.leakynews.com/smash-showurnner-josh-safran-pt-three-the-dvd-what-got-cut-and-whats-after-the-final-curtain/

[ucjrdude902]

SMASH#2868

Posted: 5/15/13 at 6:21pm

So Season 2 will go to DVD?

[Amalia Balash]

SMASH#2869

Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:01pm

Sounds like it.

I'm actually looking forward to it to see the cut original numbers. Hope all of them make it in.

Interesting interview. I feel bad for Safran because it sounds like he did care about the show. I wish he could have made it into a show that had a chance of lasting. But the ratings were never there.

The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show.

[ucjrdude902]

SMASH#2870

Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:14pm

I guess Debra Messing's pilot didn't get picked up?

[John Adams]

SMASH#2871

Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:25pm

>> "The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show."

If a tree falls in the woods, but no one is there to hear, is it "sound"? Updated On: 5/15/13 at 07:25 PM

[TFMH18]

SMASH#2872

Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:05pm

Random thought... Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started? Yet he has been in this season even LESS than last season (lol he literally was absent for a third of the episodes). Anyway just another SMASH-ualty that I found high-larious.

[Gothampc]

SMASH#2873

Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:23pm

"Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started?"

He has a life after Smash. He'll be in the Public's new musical Venice.
Link

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

[John Adams]

SMASH#2874

Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:26pm

>> Random thought... Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started? Yet he has been in this season even LESS than last season (lol he literally was absent for a third of the episodes). Anyway just another SMASH-ualty that I found high-larious."

Not so "random"...