NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion — Page 115
#2852
Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:20am
^^
Doctor...Who?
This is reality, man... Don't start mixing up good TV with tweeny sci-fi.
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Doctor...Who?
This is reality, man... Don't start mixing up good TV with tweeny sci-fi.
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#2853
Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:23am
Tweeny sci-fi?
"Pardon my prior Mcfee slip. I know how to spell her name. I just don't know how to type it." -Talulah
#2854
Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:53am
#2855
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:03pm
OK...
So here's a pictorial representation explaining why Eileen CAN'T fire Ann Harada, but she CAN fire Erin Dilly. Also, how you can tell the differences between "reality" and "SMASHWorld"...
Here are ANN and LINDA:
ANN exists in the real world, whereas LINDA lives in SMASHWorld. You can tell the difference between "real" and "SMASHWorld" because they have different names.
See how ANN looks friendly and sweet, whereas LINDA seems kinda "saucy and spicy"? - don't pay any attention to that. Even in SMASHWorld, that's not "real". What really counts is that they have different names. That's how you can tell what's "real" and what's not.
ANN can't be fired by Eileen because her name is different.
In contrast:
Uh-oh...
Someone has broken the naming rule and created a crack in the Space/Time Continuum. Now, because of this "same name" rift, reality and "SMASHWorld" are the SAME! Without a name change, there is NO WAY to tell the difference between fiction and reality. See how identical they are?
Since that is the case, Eileen CAN fire Erin Dilly. I hope that clears things up.
So here's a pictorial representation explaining why Eileen CAN'T fire Ann Harada, but she CAN fire Erin Dilly. Also, how you can tell the differences between "reality" and "SMASHWorld"...
Here are ANN and LINDA:
ANN exists in the real world, whereas LINDA lives in SMASHWorld. You can tell the difference between "real" and "SMASHWorld" because they have different names.
See how ANN looks friendly and sweet, whereas LINDA seems kinda "saucy and spicy"? - don't pay any attention to that. Even in SMASHWorld, that's not "real". What really counts is that they have different names. That's how you can tell what's "real" and what's not.
ANN can't be fired by Eileen because her name is different.
In contrast:
Uh-oh...
Someone has broken the naming rule and created a crack in the Space/Time Continuum. Now, because of this "same name" rift, reality and "SMASHWorld" are the SAME! Without a name change, there is NO WAY to tell the difference between fiction and reality. See how identical they are?
Since that is the case, Eileen CAN fire Erin Dilly. I hope that clears things up.
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:03 PM
#2856
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:05pm
Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Bernadette Peters never existed.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#2858
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:10pm
Thank you for your work on that project John Adams. It seems to me that Erin Dilly should tell Erin Dilly to tell her husband to calm down.
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#2859
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:11pm
Interesting 3 Part interview with SMASH Showrunner Joshua Safran
Part 1
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-rent-showrunner-joshua-safran/
Part 2
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-safran-pt2/
Part 3 to be posted
Part 1
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-rent-showrunner-joshua-safran/
Part 2
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-safran-pt2/
Part 3 to be posted
#2860
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:12pm
>> "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Bernadette Peters never existed."
OHHHHH... so close. "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Kristin Chenoweth never existed."
OHHHHH... so close. "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Kristin Chenoweth never existed."
#2861
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:14pm
>> "Thank you for your work on that project John Adams."
A lot of the credit has to go to my colleagues on Gallifrey. I couldn't have done it without them.
A lot of the credit has to go to my colleagues on Gallifrey. I couldn't have done it without them.
#2862
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:17pm
But do Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Ruben-Vega exist? If not, who was in the original production of Rent in the Smash universe?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#2863
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:23pm
^^^^
Let's do the Time Warp again...
Let's do the Time Warp again...
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:23 PM
#2864
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:28pm
Actually....a world in which Kristen Chenoweth never existed is A-OK with me!
#2866
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:32pm
((Pssst, John, you've got mail))
Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming
Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#2867
Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:52pm
"But do Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Ruben-Vega exist? If not, who was in the original production of Rent in the Smash universe?"
According the Safran interview, Jesse Martin was actually standing in front of his own signature on the Rent poster behind him when they shot the first of his office scenes. Once established (supposedly without his express sign off), they had to maintain the poster in its spot for the rest of the series, even to the extent of digitally removing the word bullsh!t everytime it showed up onscreen.
More mysterious to me is how a touchstone set-dec piece like a RENT poster would NOT have merited an explicit discussion about placement with the show runner before being established in a hero set. That decorator must have been giggling all through season 2 at the inadvertent analysis afforded that poster by all of us on these message boards.
According the Safran interview, Jesse Martin was actually standing in front of his own signature on the Rent poster behind him when they shot the first of his office scenes. Once established (supposedly without his express sign off), they had to maintain the poster in its spot for the rest of the series, even to the extent of digitally removing the word bullsh!t everytime it showed up onscreen.
More mysterious to me is how a touchstone set-dec piece like a RENT poster would NOT have merited an explicit discussion about placement with the show runner before being established in a hero set. That decorator must have been giggling all through season 2 at the inadvertent analysis afforded that poster by all of us on these message boards.
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:52 PM
#2868
Posted: 5/15/13 at 4:42pm
#2870
Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:01pm
Sounds like it.
I'm actually looking forward to it to see the cut original numbers. Hope all of them make it in.
Interesting interview. I feel bad for Safran because it sounds like he did care about the show. I wish he could have made it into a show that had a chance of lasting. But the ratings were never there.
The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show.
I'm actually looking forward to it to see the cut original numbers. Hope all of them make it in.
Interesting interview. I feel bad for Safran because it sounds like he did care about the show. I wish he could have made it into a show that had a chance of lasting. But the ratings were never there.
The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show.
#2872
Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:25pm
>> "The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show."
If a tree falls in the woods, but no one is there to hear, is it "sound"?
If a tree falls in the woods, but no one is there to hear, is it "sound"?
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 07:25 PM
#2873
Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:05pm
Random thought... Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started? Yet he has been in this season even LESS than last season (lol he literally was absent for a third of the episodes). Anyway just another SMASH-ualty that I found high-larious.
#2874
Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:23pm
"Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started?"
He has a life after Smash. He'll be in the Public's new musical Venice.
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He has a life after Smash. He'll be in the Public's new musical Venice.
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If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#2875
Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:26pm
>> Random thought... Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started? Yet he has been in this season even LESS than last season (lol he literally was absent for a third of the episodes). Anyway just another SMASH-ualty that I found high-larious."
Not so "random"...
Not so "random"...
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