NBC's SMASH, Season 2 -- Discussion- Page 115

[Patronus]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:14am

This Saturday's Doctor Who finale will be a Smash crossover.

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:20am

^^
Doctor...Who?

This is reality, man... Don't start mixing up good TV with tweeny sci-fi.
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[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:23am

Tweeny sci-fi?

[Patronus]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 10:53am

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhlojcE2gN1qcmn3ho1_500.png

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:03pm

OK...
So here's a pictorial representation explaining why Eileen CAN'T fire Ann Harada, but she CAN fire Erin Dilly. Also, how you can tell the differences between "reality" and "SMASHWorld"...

Here are ANN and LINDA:



ANN exists in the real world, whereas LINDA lives in SMASHWorld. You can tell the difference between "real" and "SMASHWorld" because they have different names.

See how ANN looks friendly and sweet, whereas LINDA seems kinda "saucy and spicy"? - don't pay any attention to that. Even in SMASHWorld, that's not "real". What really counts is that they have different names. That's how you can tell what's "real" and what's not.

ANN can't be fired by Eileen because her name is different.

In contrast:



Uh-oh...
Someone has broken the naming rule and created a crack in the Space/Time Continuum. Now, because of this "same name" rift, reality and "SMASHWorld" are the SAME! Without a name change, there is NO WAY to tell the difference between fiction and reality. See how identical they are?

Since that is the case, Eileen CAN fire Erin Dilly. I hope that clears things up.
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:03 PM

[Kad]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:05pm

Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Bernadette Peters never existed.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:08pm

Did Will and Grace exist?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:10pm

Thank you for your work on that project John Adams. It seems to me that Erin Dilly should tell Erin Dilly to tell her husband to calm down.

[Marnie2]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:11pm

Interesting 3 Part interview with SMASH Showrunner Joshua Safran

Part 1
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-rent-showrunner-joshua-safran/

Part 2
http://www.leakynews.com/smash-safran-pt2/

Part 3 to be posted

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:12pm

>> "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Bernadette Peters never existed."

OHHHHH... so close. "Smash exists in an alternate universe where Erin Dilly WAS replaced by Sutton Foster, but Kristin Chenoweth never existed."

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:14pm

>> "Thank you for your work on that project John Adams."

A lot of the credit has to go to my colleagues on Gallifrey. I couldn't have done it without them.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:17pm

But do Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Ruben-Vega exist? If not, who was in the original production of Rent in the Smash universe?

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:23pm

^^^^

Let's do the Time Warp again...

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:23 PM

[Patronus]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:28pm

Actually....a world in which Kristen Chenoweth never existed is A-OK with me!

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:31pm

^^^
Mr. Sulu... Set phasers to "stun".

[Eris0303]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:32pm

((Pssst, John, you've got mail))

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 3:52pm

"But do Jesse L. Martin and Daphne Ruben-Vega exist? If not, who was in the original production of Rent in the Smash universe?"

According the Safran interview, Jesse Martin was actually standing in front of his own signature on the Rent poster behind him when they shot the first of his office scenes. Once established (supposedly without his express sign off), they had to maintain the poster in its spot for the rest of the series, even to the extent of digitally removing the word bullsh!t everytime it showed up onscreen.

More mysterious to me is how a touchstone set-dec piece like a RENT poster would NOT have merited an explicit discussion about placement with the show runner before being established in a hero set. That decorator must have been giggling all through season 2 at the inadvertent analysis afforded that poster by all of us on these message boards.

Updated On: 5/15/13 at 03:52 PM

[Marnie2]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 4:42pm

Part 3

http://www.leakynews.com/smash-showurnner-josh-safran-pt-three-the-dvd-what-got-cut-and-whats-after-the-final-curtain/

[ucjrdude902]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 6:21pm

So Season 2 will go to DVD?

[Amalia Balash]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:01pm

Sounds like it.

I'm actually looking forward to it to see the cut original numbers. Hope all of them make it in.

Interesting interview. I feel bad for Safran because it sounds like he did care about the show. I wish he could have made it into a show that had a chance of lasting. But the ratings were never there.

The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show.

[ucjrdude902]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:14pm

I guess Debra Messing's pilot didn't get picked up?

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 7:25pm

>> "The idea of All That Jazz as an influence and Ivy as Gwen Verdon, Derek as Bob Fosse, and Karen as Ann Reinking was interesting, but I sure never got that from watching the show."

If a tree falls in the woods, but no one is there to hear, is it "sound"? Updated On: 5/15/13 at 07:25 PM

[TFMH18]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:05pm

Random thought... Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started? Yet he has been in this season even LESS than last season (lol he literally was absent for a third of the episodes). Anyway just another SMASH-ualty that I found high-larious.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:23pm

"Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started?"

He has a life after Smash. He'll be in the Public's new musical Venice.
Link

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:26pm

>> Random thought... Remember how Leslie Odom Jr was made a principal back before the season started? Yet he has been in this season even LESS than last season (lol he literally was absent for a third of the episodes). Anyway just another SMASH-ualty that I found high-larious."

Not so "random"...