New Poll: Is CINDERELLA a New Musical or a Revival? — Page 2

It won't win either award, so what does it matter?

In my opinion, it's a revival, although the book should obviously be eligible for Best Book.

When was the last time a show in this situation was deemed a new musical/play? I guess what I'm asking is where is the inconsistency? As of late, any show that has been considered anything of a previously written vehicle (that has had stage productions) was deemed a revival.

Flower Drum Song might as well have been a completely new musical. New story using songs from the original score. It was deemed a revival. Assassins made its Broadway debut 14 years after it was Off-Broadway. It had far less exposure than a Rodgers & Hammerstein musical, but it too was deemed a revival. I think the Tony committee has been pretty consistent in this respect since they've added the "classic" rule (which, if I'm not mistaken, is pretty new in terms of Tony history). Of course, any new elements specific to the production should be deemed eligible, Cinderella's book for example.

Are the people who are asking how on earth this could ever be a revival even reading the damn thread?

Broadwayfan, that defense makes no sense at all.

The last time this happened was with ASSASSINS and it was deemed a revival. http://www.playbill.com/news/article/86039-Tony-Rulings-Assassins-Deemed-a-Revival

CINDERELLA has been produced around the world in stage productions for forever. Even though it's never been mounted in NY, I don't see much that is "new" about it to be considered a "new" musical. None of the songs are "new," they are all old R&H songs, even the new additions to the score. The only thing about it that is "new" is the revised book.

The examples you list are wildly different cases.

Updated On: 3/8/13 at 05:58 PM

PIPPIN will win revival. "jazz" hands down !

To answer your question

Yes.

The score has certainly been around. But the book isn't just revised- it's brand spanking new. That complictes things.

Little Shop and others were known commodities prior to their Broadway "debuts". That's the difference.

But this is half-known commodity, half-new. It's almost akin to something like Nice Work if You Can Get It. Sure, the score has been used to tell the same general story. But now there are additional songs, not to mention a new script. The show is NOT what people would know R&H's Cinderella is based on its prior incarnations.

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Don't forget that one of the first arguments about adding the "classic" rule to revival was in 1996, when State Fair was eligible for new musical and everyone agreed it was ridiculous that Rogers and Hammerstein were nominated for score. Who knows, but something tells me the Tonys won't make that same mistake again with another classic R&H show.

It's new.

AEA AGMA SM, sorry I meant specially on Broadway in NY.

Godspell never played Broadway until the most recent production and it was classified as a revival.

GODSPELL was originally mounted on Broadway in 1976.