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#26

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/1/05 at 10:43pm

This will be an unwelcome opinon, but I think it comes with the territory. They dont have to, but they can't not expect it, with the job they chose. Im not saying they should stand outside for hours on end, but it amuses me when they get so insensed about it. I appreciate it when they take the time out to do it, but if they dont, they really dont have to be so rude as I hear some actors are.
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#27

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/1/05 at 11:53pm

A lot of people don't like to take photos with because they end up having their heads cropped off and then superimposed elsewhere. Some just don't like to be photographed (like Kathleen Turner) and then some flip-flop, like Jessica Lange.
A lot of the Hollywood actors on Bway don't like the photos with either b/c they show up as "proof shots" on ebay.

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#28

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 12:43am

The first time I met up with Adam Pascal and asked for a picture, his reply, in a singsongy way was, "only if you're in it". I hate getting my picture taken, and would have much rather just had a pic of only him, but if this was the only way... Found out later that was the theatre's rule to try and ward off the EBAYers.
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#29

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 1:47am

I think a lot of it is the for profit pic hounds. There is something about the actors' image being copyrighted & well I am just guessing, without control of the pic all sorts of stuff happens to their image which COULD damage them professionally.
#30

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 1:49am

I met Natasha Richardson tonight (which I've been waiting for for SO long, by the way). I definitely expected a "no pictures..." speech before she came out, but she was great. Took pictures with people who asked, and was very accomodating.

When was that, bdwaygirl? He let me take a picture of just him, but it was pretty recently.
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#32

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 1:55am

In my opinion, I don't think you're necessarily obligated... but as someone else mentioned, it comes with the territory. If you become someone who has fans, you should want to thank them for the support they are giving you. Without fans and people to come see the show/movie/concert, they don't make money and it's not then considered a job. Just my thought.

And about Piazza, from what I've heard... the cast comes out [possibly not always after matinee] and take pictures with you, sign their autograph, and you have a chance to talk to them. I think it was thernadier and mistress that conveyed this information... --korenglish
#34

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 1:59am

The only times I've experienced this is with John Lithgow after DRS and Harvey Fierstein after Hairspray. I didn't mind though. I know that John was on his way to be filmed for Late Night with Conan O'Brien, so I suppose he figured if he took one with me, he would be there forever with everyone else. I don't blame him.

But the exact opposite happened with Sarah Uriarte Berry after Piazza. She's so awesome. She said "Oh, I look horrible, but at least you're in the pic with me!"
#35

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 2:00am

EM, it was spring/summer 2001 I think. I noticed it got more relaxed in the 2003ish timeframe.
I hung out with Cheyenne Jackson in his dressing room waayyyyyy before he tickled D2.

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#38

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 2:49am

Jbarafan, when I saw DRS matinee a week ago Saturday, I noticed the three male leads all came out to greet fans, even though they weren't leaving the theater between performances. Mr. Jbara especially impressed me with his willingness to have his picture taken with all the fans who asked for one.
#39

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 8:26am

Just did the stage door for Spamalot, and I have to concur with the people who say that they sign and pose for pictures with people. Actually, I was SO impressed with David Hyde Pierce, Sara Ramirez and Christopher Sieber in particular... they made sure that everyone who wanted an autograph got one. Meant they were there for, like, 20 minutes or more, but they did it. re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

And on an annoyance note- there WAS one older guy standing near me in the line with an ARMFUL of posters. He hadn't seen the show that night- but he wanted signatures on TWO different Spamalot posters, the Broadway Bares Poster, the Tony Awards poster... there were more, but I literally was too disgusted to note 'em all. SO frustrating. He already had them covered with other autographs AND was blocking my friend, myself, and a whole bunch of little kids. I asked him if he already had all the autographs and he's like, "Well, I'm missing Sara on THIS... and David on THIS.." Jesus! I wanted to say something to the extent of "Autograph hog, get the hell out of the way." but I kept my mouth shut. And I'm willing to BET he's selling those damn things.
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#40

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 8:33am

Not for nothing DreamFlyer22 but what business is it of yours if he was selling? I hate people like you that deem it as practically criminal for people to sell or collect autographs. If the stars are willing to sign for everyone, they will all you had to do was wait your turn.
They're selling autographs, not crack. They need to ask the people permission to get the autograph and if they are selling, chances are it's a fan who's buying it, maybe they live in Iowa and aren't ever going to get a chance to stand at the stage door and bitch that someone was there before them.
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#41

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 8:44am

I don't care what he does with them. What I DID mind was this PILE of posters in his hands. Like, 20 of them and I kid you not. It was just excessive. I wouldn't have cared, but when you see a 30 year old man pushing little kids to get his pile signed when they just want their coconuts signed, it irks a little.
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#42

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 8:46am

I can tell you for a fact (since I used to work for her and dealt with this first-hand) that Kathleen Turner does not think the selling of autographs is cool at all. She limits people to two for that reason.
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#43

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 9:04am

There was a story posted here a while ago about an actor who had a picture taken with someone, who then used that picture to intimate some kind of relationship with the actor (professional, not personal) - which showed me that actors might need to use a little caution.

And as always, I'm intrigued by the ability of some to make assumptions about someone else's choices simply because they didn't get what they wanted. These are not automatons, they're people - with the same right to make individual choices as you.
#44

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 9:10am

Reminds of the great Joseph Mankiewicz script for ALL ABOUT EVE...you know the one, the scene in the Broadway dressing room after a performance, where Margo Channing is getting out of costume and her friends have come backstage.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
KAREN: (to Margo): Yes, it is! You're talented, famous, wealthy -- people waiting around night after night, just to see you, even in the wind and the rain...

MARGO: Autograph fiends! They're not people -- those little beasts who run in packs like coyotes --

KAREN: They're your fans, your audience --

MARGO: They're nobody's fans! They're juvenile delinquents, mental defectives, they're nobody's audience, they never see a play or a movie, even -- they're never indoors long enough!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That was written over 50 years ago, and truer words on the subject have never been written or spoken.




Updated On: 7/2/05 at 09:10 AM

#45

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 9:17am

I always liked Anthony Hopkins view on autographs. He said once (and appears to actually be doing it) that he'll sign anything except a blank check. By doing so he keeps the fans happy while keeping the monetary value of his autograph down - so it isn't worth much on eBay or anywhere else.

I had an actor acquaintance who was signing autographs outside a stage door one afternoon when a photographer came along and tried to take his pic. There happened to be an over-eager fan hanging on to his side at the time and he held his hand up in front of the guy's camera and said "no pictures - please". Then he whispered to me 'you never know who they are or where they're going to end up'. I've seen him pose with fans before so I think it was just because of the arm-hanger. Apparently it is a worrisome thought for some actors.
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#46

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 9:17am

DreamFlyer, I've seen this guy (or others who do the same thing) around at various stage doors. At Light in the Piazza it wasn't really an issue, because not many people were waiting, but at La Cage, a guy with a tiny picture of the Cagelles, a Broadway Bares poster and 2 Tony Awards posters was shoving his way to the front (through children, I might add. He was waiting in the back of the crowd and then whenever anyone came out, he sprinted to the front and then stepped to the back.

I remember when I saw Aida, there was an ensemble member who didn't want photos taken with her or of her. I don't really know why, my dad thought she was a model under a contract or something. That's really the only time anything like that has happened to me.

I agree, though, that actors never HAVE to sign anything or take photos with anybody. It's just really sweet that they do.
#47

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 2:27pm

Well I don't understand Ms. Turner because I know that I can't go to New York but I love Broadway musicals and I am willing to pay 20 dollars for a signed photo or playbill on Ebay. I don't understand what a hell is wrong with that?
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#48

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 2:40pm

Not for nothing DreamFlyer22 but what business is it of yours if he was selling? I hate people like you that deem it as practically criminal for people to sell or collect autographs.

Spoken like a true *EBAYer* re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Updated On: 7/2/05 at 02:40 PM

#49

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 2:45pm

"I don't understand what a hell is wrong with that?"

That's your problem.

I've never met a single actor who appreciated their autograph being sold on eBay.

Get a real job people.
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#50

re: No pictures allowed though - only 'of them, not with them.'

Posted: 7/2/05 at 2:49pm

Well I think it is not a crime and I wasn't talking about candid or unpublished photos.
I would get an autogram for myself if I lived in NY.
Norbert Leo Butz quotes about John Lithgow: "He's really clumsy. One of the joys in life is to watch a great big huge man totally wipe out backstage. It takes John about three minutes to hit the floor. It's like watching a Great Sequoia falling gracelessly."

Updated On: 7/2/05 at 02:49 PM

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