Patti LuPone didn't like 90th Birthday 'Ladies who lunch'- Page 2

[PipingHotPiccolo]

Posted: 5/3/20 at 2:25pm

when i frst saw this headline, i thought it referred to Sondheim's 80th birthday celebration, at which Patti herself sang Ladies Who Lunch- in other words, I thought Patti was introspectively criticizing her prior version of the song. 

silly me! she's as rude as she is talented. 

[ljay889]

Posted: 5/3/20 at 2:53pm

BJR said: "bryan2 said: "I used to love Patti but how high of an opinion of herself does she need...she is a star on Broadway and pretty much the rest of the country doesn't have a clue who she is ...."

The point you're making by listing their greater accomplishments is likely what upset her.

What y'all don't know about actors could clearly fill this board several times over even without shows running.

She doesn't think she's better. Like most actors, she likely feels a little vulnerable going on each night. She leans on the work and her technique, but is easily swayed by the approval of, say, Sondheim. So, while the part is still technically hers to navigate each night, to watch more famous women take on the part, and have to follow them repeatedly, likely felt like they shouldn't have put her in that spot."

My goodness, you summed this up so eloquently in both of your posts. I agree that Patti is more vulnerable than we think she is, and honestly, I would've felt a little strange watching that trio if I were in her shoes as well. 

[PianoMann]

Posted: 5/3/20 at 9:07pm

It's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. How could one measure what Patti does on stage with that song and character eight times a week against this fun, light-hearted trio tribute performed on Zoom? Plus, the performers got to pick their song, as far as I know. Patti could have chosen "Ladies Who Lunch" if she felt territorial about it. She chose something different––a lovely choice and a wise decision, I think––but that left her new "signature" song up for grabs, and three incredible and thoroughly different performers ran with it. No foul and no need to snipe at it, either.

[Stephen75]

Posted: 5/3/20 at 9:08pm

Fair enough, but being vulnerable is not an excuse for being rude. She’s a grown woman, a seasoned veteran, and she knows what she was saying when she said critiqued their performance. She played the moment up, took a big sip of her drink, made it seem like she had something big opinion on it. She also knows the difference between a one night event rendition and her interpretation of an entire role night after night on Broadway.

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 5/4/20 at 12:22am

ljay889 said: "It’s Patti, she’s obviously territorial of the song right now, she even said It’s the song she currently has to sing. I’m sure it was a little weird for her to see the three of them sing it at this moment. Sure, she didn’t have to be that shady, but she basically is the first performer since Stritch to really make a mark with the song. Most Joannes since Stritch were underwhelming, and what Patti does in the theater with this number is truly something special.
In a way Stritch passed the torch to her at the 80th Birthday concert and I bet Patti will do the same to another performer years from now. I guess what I’m trying to say is that I understand her being territorial of the song."

But if she'd stop for a moment and think about it, the comic trio singing the song while lapping up alcohol was probably a result of nobody wanting to sing the song seriously WHILE LuPone is owning it. She ought to be flattered, IMHO.

[devonian.t]

Posted: 5/4/20 at 3:33am

Very good point.

But it was only a bit of fun, made a change to be honest, and I don't care what PL thinks about anything anyway.

The only person who can be territorial about that song is Stephen Sondheim!

[A Potter Line]

Posted: 5/4/20 at 5:01am

She’s a bit outspoken lol.

[bryan2]

Posted: 5/4/20 at 7:06am

what makes me laugh about Patti is she is always putting down other performers..she is rude and honestly comes across as a mean girl...she is always spouting off about Trump (who I hate) but she is constantly in the same mean , rude type of atmosphere...I agree it is kind of funny at times...and mean people can be very funny , until they are mean to you , then it isn't so funny. She is a talented Broadway star, I have seen her in Les  Miz and Gypsy and neither of them left me in awe...I was more in awe of Laura in Gypsy ,,,,she actually made me like Little Lamb, but Patti screaming every line and mumbling every lyric is not for me..now I am being mean,....see it becomes contagious!!

[massofmen]

Posted: 5/4/20 at 8:25am

This is what Sondheim's 90th was all about, wasn't it? What does Patti think about stuff? Blech
Takes a real winner to cast shade on something done out of joy for another person's bday. 

[SweetLips22]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 5:34am

She should only open her mouth to sing.

[binau]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 11:38am

Ok here Patti isn’t so subtle, she says they trashed the number LOL what?

https://pridesource.com/article/qa-patti-lupone-on-hollywood-her-basement-videos-why-ladies-who-lunch-will-never-be-the-same/

[BroadwayBrat]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 12:29pm

She's definitely talented, but enough.  I know many like the fact that she is outspoken, but considering the circumstances and the format, she SHOULD have been more respectful of her peers.   As Jack said on Will & Grace "Shut up Patti LuPone!"   

[Broadway61004]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 12:50pm

Seriously, I love Patti, but show some respect for your fellow artists and just shut up if you don't like their performance.  Not everything needs your commentary.  There's absolutely no need to bash someone else's performance just because you didn't like it.  It's fine that you didn't like it, but I'm sure they haven't liked something you've done in the past, you just don't know about it because they didn't feel the need to post an entire video on the internet explaining why they didn't like you.

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 12:52pm

Oh, come on - I think the person who posted this as a thread is really stirring the pot.  The combination of Meryl, Christine, and Audra doing a trio of "Ladies who Lunch" was a wonderfully bizarre, messy, and fun piece of camp.  At worst, LuPone has said she will have a hard time singing the song straight again and keeping a straight face because she will always think of the performance. She hardly trashed her peers.

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 1:31pm

Gorlois said: "She *is* a *diva.* Her matter-of-fact speaking her mind attitude coupled with her incredible talent is why we’ll still be talking about her 50+ years in the future. She’ll never bore me."

LOL no one will be speaking of her 50+ years in the future. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 1:32pm

sabrelady said: "as the ghost of Elaine Stritch snickers..."

This.

[carnzee]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 2:20pm

joevitus said: "sabrelady said: "as the ghost of Elaine Stritch snickers..."

This."

Patti's comment is less stinging than when Stritch said Carol Burnett shouldn't have sung "I'm Still Here" because she didn't have enough life experience or something. 

[Impossible2]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 2:21pm

joevitus said: "Gorlois said: "She *is* a *diva.* Her matter-of-fact speaking her mind attitude coupled with her incredible talent is why we’ll still be talking about her 50+ years in the future. She’ll never bore me."

LOL no one will be speaking of her 50+ years in the future."

Seriously, before she took the phone off that audience member I'd never even heard of her x

[darreyl102]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 3:51pm

qolbinau said: "Ok here Patti isn’t so subtle, she says they trashed the number LOL what?

https://pridesource.com/article/qa-patti-lupone-on-hollywood-her-basement-videos-why-ladies-who-lunch-will-never-be-the-same/"

Patti said: "I mean, I say that with great humor, but I’m not going to be able to sing it without thinking of them doing it. (Laughs.) This is all joke, by the way! This is all humor! "

it's pretty clear that she is saying that they ruined the song for her because now when she sings it the only thing she'll be able to see is them doing it in her head. That kind of thing can happen to all of us. Example: one of my friends said when Patti was belting out the end "Rise! Rise! Rise!" In 'ladies who lunch' at Sondheim's birthday concert, that it sounded like she was saying "Rice!" And now I can't unhear it. Lolzz "everybody rice!!"

She meant it in jest

Updated On: 5/5/20 at 03:51 PM

[orlikethecolorpurple]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 8:53pm

qolbinau said: "I don't find it cringeworthy like when a certain actor decided to complain that 'musicality' was gone from the Donna Murphy Into the Woods.”

What’s this story?

[latitudex1]

Posted: 5/5/20 at 10:10pm

orlikethecolorpurple said: "qolbinau said: "I don't find it cringeworthy like when a certain actor decided to complain that 'musicality' was gone from the Donna Murphy Into the Woods.”

What’s this story?"

If I remember correctly, Morgan James was snarkily live tweeting during that Shakespeare in the Park production of Into the Woods.

It was very juvenile stuff that you would type in a group message with your friends. (Or during a screening of Cats 2019, I guess). Not anything you would or should ever say in public.

Updated On: 5/5/20 at 10:10 PM

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/6/20 at 1:11am

carnzee said: "joevitus said: "sabrelady said: "as the ghost of Elaine Stritch snickers..."

This."

Patti's comment is less stinging than when Stritch said Carol Burnett shouldn't have sung "I'm Still Here" because she didn't have enough life experience or something."

Searched the net, can't find the quote, so can't compare it to LuPone's. But Stritch really owns that song (yes, even now when she's dead). LuPone doesn't. 

For the record, I think Burnett's rendition of "I'm Still Here" may be definitive. 

Updated On: 5/6/20 at 01:11 AM

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 5/6/20 at 2:06am

Impossible2 said: "Seriously, before she took the phone off that audience member I'd never even heard of her x"

I'm sorry, love her or hate her, to suggest that she was unknown before that incident is just ridiculous.

[NOWaWarning]

Posted: 5/6/20 at 5:18am

The only times she has spoken about the performance were because she was asked. She gave honest and humorous answers. I’m sure Patti’s friend Audra isn’t losing any sleep nor are Meryl and Christine. Release your pearls, ladies.

Updated On: 5/6/20 at 05:18 AM

[Impossible2]

Posted: 5/6/20 at 9:18am

AEA AGMA SM said: "Impossible2 said: "Seriously, before she took the phone off that audience member I'd never even heard of her x"

I'm sorry, love her or hate her, to suggest that she was unknown before that incident is just ridiculous."

Only I didn't say that at all, I said 'I' had never heard of her. The name rang a bell, slightly, but if I had to point her out in a lineup I'd have had no hope.