Okay, did you even READ Wilson's quote, Art?
NOTHING was done to "flesh out" or "sexualize" Maureen and Joanne's relationship that was not already in the play. Which, as we all know, you've never seen, so you wouldn't know. The gay marriage subplot is a VERY small part of the story that ONLY exists to set up the scene for Take Me Or Leave Me. They needed a way to incorporate that fight into the story, and that's the idea they had. That's it. It's nothing more than a segway that had no extra meaning at all. It wasn't an "extra story line." It was a plot contrivance to get the story set up and moving for things that were already in the musical. Stop making it into something that it's not just because you can't admit you're wrong.
You keep acting as though Maureen and Joanne's relationship is the same as Collins and Angel's. That is your first mistake. You think that both should be portrayed the same way. It's apples and oranges. The two relationships were created and written by Jonathan to be TWO. DIFFERENT. THINGS. and therefore not portrayed with the same levels of emotion. Maureen and Joanne's relationship was ALREADY extremely sexual and lustful/passionate in the musical. It wasn't "sexualized" or "fleshed out" for the film. THAT is the way that it was ALREADY in the play. Jonathan wrote it that way. It was a hot, sexual affair with hot tempers and constant, passionate fighting. Go to 41st Street and see the show. You'll see what we mean.
Collins and Angel, on the other hand, were written an ENTIRELY different way. If you'd actually watch the videos that have been posted recently that have interviews with Jesse and Wilson, you will see that Jonathan and Michael Grief themselves TOLD THEM FLAT OUT that Collins and Angel's relationship was simple, uncomplicated, and honest. It was written and directed to NOT be overly sexual and hot. It was written to be intensely romantic, pure and yes, I guess we could say even chaste. It's a given that they have sex, but their relationship, like Wilson and Michael and Jesse and Jonathan have said, is not about sex. Maureen and Joanne's, on the other hand, is. That is why they are portrayed as more sexual in the movie. Not because it was added in, or fleshed out. Because that is the way IT ALREADY WAS IN THE PLAY, WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN. End. Of. Story.
"We don't resile from what we've said." All of the facts, including direct information from THE CAST AND CREW THEMSELVES, the ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST, and THE LARSONS THEMSELVES, confirm that you are 110% completely and totally wrong. If you HONESTLY THINK that Jonathan's friends and family (who were on set EVERY SINGLE DAY and saw EVERYTHING get written and filmed) would allow Collins and Angel to be de-gayed, that is just pathetic, presumptuous, and exceedingly arrogant.
It's hysterical that you think that one film critic vindicates you, but THE LARSONS THEMSELVES being on OUR side, for some reason, doesn't vindicate us. Let's see...who's the more reliable source here? Mr. Washington Film Critic, or the OBC and the Larsons? Hm. Tough question.
So before you preach about double standards, confront your own. The fact that you've resorted to personal attacks on people proves that you know you have nothing substantial left to fall back on, and are now just lashing out. You don't like the fact that all the evidence is against you and that you've been proven wrong multiple times. You don't like that the facts, plain and simple, support us and not you. And you certainly don't like the fact that you're too prideful to admit you were wrong.
You're a coward.
Updated On: 11/19/05 at 09:14 PM
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