RUBEN & CLAY’S FIRST ANNUAL CHRISTMAS CAROL FAMILY FUN PAGEANT SPECTACULAR REUNION SHOW- Page 4

[Sondheimite]

Posted: 11/12/18 at 3:21am

MassiveMeGo said: "Sondheimite said: "Yes, may we #neverforget Clay in Joseph"

What kind of person goes to the trouble of making and uploading a 5 second video just to bash someone? Seriously"

 

[Sondheimite]

Posted: 11/12/18 at 3:21am

MassiveMeGo said: "Sondheimite said: "Yes, may we #neverforget Clay in Joseph"

What kind of person goes to the trouble of making and uploading a 5 second video just to bash someone? Seriously"

 

[Sondheimite]

Posted: 11/12/18 at 3:25am

MassiveMeGo said: "Sondheimite said: "Yes, may we #neverforget Clay in Joseph"

What kind of person goes to the trouble of making and uploading a 5 second video just to bash someone? Seriously"

 

[GiantsInTheSky2]

Posted: 11/12/18 at 7:36am

I had no idea that Clay Aiken (and Beth Leavel) did a production of Drowsy Chaperone together. That’s awesome.

[Bwayfan292]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 1:06pm

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Farah-Alvin-Ken-Arpino-and-More-Complete-Cast-of-RUBEN-CLAY-Christmas-Show-20181120

 

cause adding more unknown cast members is going to help the show sell..

Updated On: 11/20/18 at 01:06 PM

[dramamama611]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 1:28pm

"Audiences will see Ruben and Clay journey through a fusion of holiday music and entertainment featuring lighthearted comedy, astounding versatility and, as always, Ruben and Clay's magnetic stage presence."

 

How does one live with oneself after writing crap like that?^

[Kad]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 1:46pm

From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth.

Updated On: 11/20/18 at 01:46 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 1:48pm

Audiences will see Ruben and Clay journey through a fusion of holiday music and entertainment featuring lighthearted comedy, astounding versatility and, as always, Ruben and Clay's magnetic stage presence.

I never thought of Clay as versatile.  Huh.

[MassiveMeGo]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:25pm

Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no. The producers are RC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH

[JSquared2]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:32pm

MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no.The producers areRC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH"

 

Actually yes, RC Christmas LLC is an entity formed for this particular show --- not a person.  Some of the principals are the same people as the HFTH producing team.

 

[MassiveMeGo]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:36pm

JSquared2 said: "MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no.The producers areRC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH"



Actually yes, RC ChristmasLLC is an entity formed for this particular show--- not a person. Some of the principals are the same people asthe HFTH producing team.

"

So you think Ruben & Clay produced HFTH? You're hilarious. 

 

[Kad]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:36pm

MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no.The producers areRC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH"

Of the 3 listed producers on Playbill.com, the only one with any credits other than this show is Jeffrey Chrzczon, who was a producer Home for the Holidays.

 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:38pm

MassiveMeGo said: "JSquared2 said: "MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no.The producers areRC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH"



Actually yes, RC ChristmasLLC is an entity formed for this particular show--- not a person. Some of the principals are the same people as the HFTH producing team.

So you think Ruben & Clay produced HFTH? You're hilarious.

Sorry dear, you're confusing "producers" with "performers".  

 

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:39pm

Actually, Jeffrey Chrzczon is a producer and was a producer for Home for the Holidays, but his company was the general manager for Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth.

https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/jeffrey-chrzczon-76461

RC Christmas LLC is likely just the entity set up under which this production will operate.

[Kad]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:39pm

MassiveMeGo said: "JSquared2 said: "MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no.The producers areRC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH"



Actually yes, RC ChristmasLLC is an entity formed for this particular show--- not a person. Some of the principals are the same people asthe HFTH producing team.

"

So you think Ruben & Clay produced HFTH? You're hilarious.

"

No, he's saying that RC Christmas LLC is the limited liability corporation created to specifically produce this show, and it is made up of several people, at least one of whom also produced Home for the Holidays.

It ain't rocket science here.

 

Updated On: 11/20/18 at 03:39 PM

[MassiveMeGo]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:44pm

Kad said: "MassiveMeGo said: "JSquared2 said: "MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "From the producer who brought you Home for the Holidays and Mike Tyson: Undisputed Truth."

Actually no.The producers areRC Christmas LLC who did not produce HFTH"



Actually yes, RC ChristmasLLC is an entity formed for this particular show--- not a person. Some of the principals are the same people asthe HFTH producing team.

"

So you think Ruben & Clay produced HFTH? You're hilarious.

"

No, he's saying that RC Christmas LLC is the limited liability corporation created to specificallyproduce this show, and it is made up of several people,at least one ofwhom also produced Home for the Holidays.

It ain't rocket science here.

"

He's full of *.*.*.* Take the trouble to look it up in the NY state database and you'll find it does not name any of the HFTH producers. 

Updated On: 11/20/18 at 03:44 PM

[Kad]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 3:52pm

Jeffrey Chrzchzon is the first individual producer listed on the show's page on Playbill. He was even named in their initial press release, alongside Side Effects Include and Josh Pultz/Amplified Entertainment.

 

 

 

Updated On: 11/20/18 at 03:52 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:03pm

He's full of *.*.*.* Take the trouble to look it up in the NY state database and you'll find it does not name any of the HFTH producers. 

Of course it doesn't.  That's not how it works.  You may find the contact for service of process or the registered agent for the LLC, but not the names of producers.  Unless you're looking at some other NY database that isn't the NYS Department of State Division of Corporations Entity Information. 

[MassiveMeGo]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:14pm

Kad said: "Jeffrey Chrzchzon is the first individual producer listed on the show's page on Playbill. He wasevennamed in their initialpress release, alongside Side Effects Include and Josh Pultz/Amplified Entertainment.
"
I concede that Jeffrey may be involved but he is no longer listed as the producer in recent articles and several other things have changed since that first announcement a month ago.

As much as you want to connect this production to those other people last year it won't work because their production consisted of a random bunch of singers on a bare stage and lit by a guy with a flashlight. 

 

This production is

"Written by Ken Arpino and Jesse Joyce and directed by Jonathan Tessero, the show has musical staging by Lisa Shriver and music direction by Ben Cohn. The design team includes Rob Bissinger (sets), Paul Miller (lighting), James Brown III (costumes), Bruce Landon Yauger (sound design), and Jason Lee Courson (projection design)."



 

 

[Kad]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:16pm

...Those aren't producers. Those are the creative team.

And the director's last Broadway credit? Music directing Home for the Holidays.

Updated On: 11/20/18 at 04:16 PM

[JSquared2]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:20pm

MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "Jeffrey Chrzchzon is the first individual producer listed on the show's page on Playbill. He wasevennamed in their initialpress release, alongside Side Effects Include and Josh Pultz/Amplified Entertainment.
"
I concede that Jeffrey may be involved but he is no longer listed as the producer in recent articles and several other things have changed since that first announcement a month ago.

As much as you want to connect this production to those other people last year it won't work because their production consisted of a random bunch of singers on a bare stage and lit by a guy with a flashlight.



This production is

"Written by Ken Arpino and Jesse Joyce and directed by Jonathan Tessero, the show has musical staging by Lisa Shriver and music direction by Ben Cohn. The design team includes Rob Bissinger (sets), Paul Miller (lighting), James Brown III (costumes), Bruce Landon Yauger (sound design), and Jason Lee Courson (projection design)."


Do you really not understand what a "producer" is -- or are you just trolling?  The people listed above are the creative team (writers, designers, directors, music, etc.).  They do not PRODUCE the show.  The Producer is the person (or group of people) who either pay for, or raise the money to PRODUCE the show and actually PAY the people involved --- including Clay, Ruben, and the group above.  Got it now?


"

 

[MassiveMeGo]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:24pm

Kad said: "...Those aren't producers. Those are the creative team.

And the director's last Broadway credit? Music directing Home for the Holidays."

This year its Ben Cohn, (Assistant Conductor for Wicked and Musical Director for Dear Evan Hanson). He is Clay's musical director for all his live performances. 

[MassiveMeGo]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:27pm

JSquared2 said: "MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "Jeffrey Chrzchzon is the first individual producer listed on the show's page on Playbill. He wasevennamed in their initialpress release, alongside Side Effects Include and Josh Pultz/Amplified Entertainment.
"
I concede that Jeffrey may be involved but he is no longer listed as the producer in recent articles and several other things have changed since that first announcement a month ago.

As much as you want to connect this production to those other people last year it won't work because their production consisted of a random bunch of singers on a bare stage and lit by a guy with a flashlight.



This production is

"Written by Ken Arpino and Jesse Joyce and directed by Jonathan Tessero, the show has musical staging by Lisa Shriver and music direction by Ben Cohn. The design team includes Rob Bissinger (sets), Paul Miller (lighting), James Brown III (costumes), Bruce Landon Yauger (sound design), and Jason Lee Courson (projection design)."


Do youreally not understand what a "producer" is -- or are you just trolling? The people listed above are the creative team(writers, designers, directors, music, etc.). They do not PRODUCE the show. The Producer is the person (or group of people) who either pay for, or raise the money to PRODUCE the show and actually PAYthe people involved --- including Clay, Ruben, and the group above. Got it now?


"

"

Do you really not understand the difference between a producer and a production? 

[Kad]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:30pm

This is one of the most staggering exchanges I have ever seen on this website.

[Sauja]

Posted: 11/20/18 at 4:34pm

MassiveMeGo said: "Kad said: "...Those aren't producers. Those are the creative team.

And the director's last Broadway credit? Music directing Home for the Holidays."

This year its Ben Cohn, (Assistant Conductor for Wicked and Musical Director for Dear Evan Hanson). He is Clay's musical director for all his live performances."

MassiveMeGo, Ben Cohn is Ruben and Clay's MUSICAL director. The director of the show is Jonathan Tessero whose last theater credit was, in fact, as the musical director of Home for the Holidays. And of the three listed producers, only one, Jeffrey Chrzczon, has any producing credits, the most recent of which is Home for the Holidays.

 

I know you're involved with this show, but these are facts. It is also a fact that tickets are largely unsold for every performance which has to be a concern to all involved. I am not saying the show will be bad. I don't have any idea how the show will be. But there are pieces of factual information that point to it being in trouble, no matter how much you want to deny it is so. It may be easier to acknowledge that and move on than continuing to scream that people are liars.  This is information being pulled directly from the show's site and IBDB and Telecharge.