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#0Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 4:12pm

If you have Entertainment Weekly, and you read this thing on Sara Ramirez in the must list, did anyone else notice that they said Sara was pronounced Sada? Is this just a typo? Cuz if I see her at the stage door I don't want to call her the wrong thing, lol


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#1re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 4:14pm

You pronounce her name Sah-dah... EW is correct


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#2re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 4:18pm

Ok, thanks!!!


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ashley0139
#3re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 4:38pm

Yeah. I talked to someone on a cruise ship who went to school with her or something. And she pronounced it like that. I'm sure a lot of people make that mistake though.


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#4re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:00pm

Why is it pronounced like that? Is she some sort of ethnicity?


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#5re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:04pm

wow...that's weird. I always thought it was the conventional..."Sarah". It sounds like the way that my parents would pronounce it! ^_^ (They still have their Korean accent..)


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#6re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:11pm

I assume she's Latina, based on her last name, which would make sense of the "Sa(d)a" pronunciation. I've got several "Sa(d)as" in my family, too.

Most mid-word "r"s in Spanish get pronounced more like a light "d" sound than an "r" sound. You make the noise by tapping your tongue quickly to the top of your mouth, not by moving your lips forward to form the "rrrrr" sound. I'm sure someone more schooled in linguistics will show up to make sense of this, but that'll do for now. : )

Hoof
#7re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:11pm

Oh, I just thought it was the cool Spanish way of saying her name. You know, like rolling the R and what not.

Sarrrrrra Ramirrrez! See? It's fun.

Fun is now gone. Sigh.

[Edit: Ah, I get it now. Nice thing to know- me likes knowledge] Updated On: 6/28/05 at 05:11 PM

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#8re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:12pm

how did they pronounce it at the Tonys?


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#9re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:12pm

So is it with the rolled "r"? Or a hard "d" sound?



and Sara was born in Mexico...I think. I think it was in her star file at Broadway.com


The Tony's, I believe, just said "Sarah".


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Updated On: 6/28/05 at 05:12 PM

jasobres
#10re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:13pm

I think the presenter pronounced it as "Sa-rah" and the announcer pronounced it as "Sa-da." Everywhere else, I hear it pronounced as "Sa-DA."


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CJR
#11re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:19pm

Funny, I'm also latina but all the Saras in my family are pronounced "Sa-rrrrah" not "Sa-dah"


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#12re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:31pm

That's what I was under the impression of, CJR. I didn't think it was such an obvious "d" sound.


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#13re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:34pm

I'm with CJR - the "r" can sound like a "d" but in English we usually say "sarah" or w/e....

Interesting.


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#14re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:35pm

I hear she's quite uptight about it. So get it right. Haha...


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joniray
#15re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:39pm

sfrp explained it well. It really is a Spanish “r” sound without rolling it, which sounds to Americans like a soft “d.” When your roll your "r"s in Spanish, you vibrate your tongue on the top of your mouth. Since the "r" in Sara's name isn't rolled, it's just a quick flick on the top of the mouth, but it's a similar action to the rolled "r"s, just one instead of many. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, it is actually pronounced with an "r," in Spanish. An "r" in Spanish just sounds more like a soft "d" to an American so it is just easier to tell people it's pronounce Sada (the accent is on the first syllable, by the way) even if it really is pronounced Sara as a Spanish name.

Jon
#16re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:41pm

Then is it also RamiDez?

And is it Froederick Frahnkensteen?

jasobres
#17re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 5:41pm

Very funny!


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joniray
#18re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 11:55pm

Actually, yes the second "r" in Ramirez is with the same Spanish flick of the tongue "r" as in Sara. The first "R" is Ramirez is slightly rolled, so it would sound to most American ears as "Sada Rrramidez."

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#19re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 11:58pm

"Is she some sort of ethnicity?"

I think most people are...


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CJR
#20re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/28/05 at 11:59pm

Yes, she is quite uptight about it..... Definitely don't call her Sara


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#21re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/29/05 at 12:14am

at the stage door of spamalot (pre-broadway) the stage-door guard even warned the group of people there about how to say her name.


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#22re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/29/05 at 12:15am

It's not really a hard D sound, I'd assume, but more like the soft D-like sound you get when you roll your Spanish R's, if you do it properly.


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#23re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/29/05 at 12:30am

Lizzy, I'm not! Stupid whiteness....I have no culture.


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#24re: Sa-DA Ramirez??
Posted: 6/29/05 at 12:34am

That's why I just say Mr or Ms. (insert last name), Because I went through my own stage of being extremely touchy about the pronounciation of my name. So I fully understand.
Updated On: 6/29/05 at 12:34 AM


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