Shrek? Could it?
Shrek? Could it?
jagfkb
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#1Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:10pm
With all of the Next to Normal/ Billy Elliot fueds going on, could Shrek have a chance at the Gold?
Here's my point, most voters take a show's touring capabilites into considerration when voting. Already, some producers are smart and have announced tours, like West Side Story, Hair, and recently Shrek. All other nominees have yet to even announce such tours, putting Shrek at a slight advantage. While Next to Normal is not tourist friendly, Billy Elliot isn't that far behind. Aside from the set (which has continued to breakdown well into it's run), consider the heavy English accents, the adult content, AND the excessive cursing. While I understand Spring Awakening had some of those factors as well, they had announced a tour by the time the Tonys had come around. Billy Elliot opened last November, and nothing has been announced. So, what do you think, could Shrek have a chance? Also, though it's not any sort of official sign, Shrek has seemed to become the "that site" musical of the year, with practically the entire show, as well as many comments on how much people like it, on that site. A sign of what's to come?
#2re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:12pmno chance at all. Shrek is this year's Cry Baby. It should be lucky it got nominated.
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#2re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:12pmNo.
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#5re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:36pmNo. And your point has no merit. Tourism is a factor, not the only reason any show ever wins ever.
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jagfkb
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/29/07
#6re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:45pmActually, wouldn't 9 to 5 be this year's Young Frankenstein and Rock of Ages this year's Cry Baby?
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#7re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:47pm
sorry to disagree with all y'all but SHREK TOTALLY HAS A CHANCE
I predict shrek will win...
BEST LEADING ACTOR: Brian D'Arcy James (i'd say 50/50)
BEST FEAUTURED ACTOR Christopher Sieber (tony buzz for him has been going on since the Seatle tryout)
BEST COSTUMES (Farquad costume is genius, and the costumes in shrek are FAB)
BEST SCENIC DESIGN(Really oustanding sets)
ZONEACE
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#8re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 6:52pmso, just how retarded are you mactor?
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
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#9re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:05pmIt will not win. If, by some chance in hell it does, my entire faith in humanity will be lost.
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#10re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:06pm
I personally think Shrek could get a few things here or there.
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#11re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:07pmBest musical? Not a chance.
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#12re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:09pm
I'm guessing the OP meant for Best Musical -- then NOT ON YOUR LIFE.
Could it get a few statues? Possibly.
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jagfkb
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#13re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:14pmIn my opinion, it has the Costumes Tony in the bag, just as Mary Poppins had the Sets Tony practically engraved. Christopher Siber has the greatest chance of getting a statue for his performance out of everyone else, and Orchestrations could end up being Shrek, though Next to normal could take that one easily.
#14re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:16pmWhile Shrek is my favorite out of the Best Musical nominees, I really don't see it having a chance of winning the big prize. It'll MAYBE get Actor, probably get Featured Actor, and I think it's quite a bit behind N2N in the score category (since the committee seems to hate 9 to 5 and BE's score is its weakest link). That's probably it, besides design stuff.
#15re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:18pmJust because the 24 people on the Nominating Committee hated 9 TO 5 doesn't mean the 750 Tony voters are going to hate it.
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#16re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 7:19pm
Good point, Foster. I haven't actually hear 9 to 5's score so I can't judge it based on my opinions.
And I forgot about Orchestrations. Is there some sort of rule about those? I think Shrek has the biggest orchestra, if that has any weight in that category.
#17re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 9:14pm
Here's my point, most voters take a show's touring capabilites into considerration when voting.
Where are you gettinmg that?
One block of Tony voters represent the road presenters, but they do not have enough pull to overrule the New York based voters.
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#18re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 9:18pmHowever, if the rest of the voters are largely split, then the road representatives could make a big difference. A minority all voting in one way is pretty powerful.
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#19re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 9:38pm
i dont understand all the shrek hate on here. it was fine. i didnt see rock of ages, but from what i hear, shrek is probably a much better show- and is any one of those four were going to be replaced with 9 to 5, it was gonna be rock of ages.
it will NOT win best musical, of course, but will probably pick up best featured actor (very much deservedly so) and might get a few of the technical ones as well...
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#20re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/5/09 at 9:39pmShrek is terrible, thats why there's all the hate.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
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#21re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 1:09am
"Shrek is this year's Cry Baby."
I wouldn't say it's this year's Cry Baby, but with the hype around Billy Elliot, I do not see it taking the big prize. But who knows what will happen.
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#22re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 4:23am
Seems a kneejerk response to dogpile all over Shrek around here. I wasn't surprised when it fared well at the nominations yesterday. While I wished that the creators had taken even more of a red pencil to it in their revisions between Seattle and New York, I do think there are some definite virtues to that show. I liked Tim Hatley's designs, Danny Troob's orchestrations, and I found David Lindsay Abaire's lyrics eccentric and funny. There are some very good performances. All of that puts it above the recent efforts of another corporate musical producing house on Broadway. I also do like the message the show delivers to kids that if you are different, an outcast, a freak, there are other people like you who will love you just the same, and ultimately, that trumped the couple of sections where I felt the show went off the rails.
No, I don't think it's winning Best Musical, but it could win a couple of the other awards mentioned in this thread.
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#23re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 6:45am
<< no chance at all. Shrek is this year's Cry Baby. It should be lucky it got nominated. >>
Totally agree. My first thought was that "9 To 5" must be REALLY bad !!!!
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#24re: Shrek? Could it?
Posted: 5/6/09 at 10:14am
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I'm putting my money on Billy Elliot, but I'm hoping for Next To Normal.
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