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TheatreDiva90016
#1025Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/11/10 at 7:14pm

"It's funny how TheatreDork mentions STOTD as a universal theme park show. I remember watching a Spiderman Musical a few years back at Universal Studios Hollywood. They had an aerial battle above the audience between spiderman and the green goblin. The show was called SPIDERMAN ROCKS. It was BAD. But, I enjoyed it."


I worked on that show.

I'm so sorry.



Signed,

The Original TD


"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
Updated On: 12/11/10 at 07:14 PM

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dshnookie
#1026Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/11/10 at 10:20pm

Thanks, TDork3!

henryt
#1027Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 12:58am

"I'm hearing rumors that the "geek chorus" has mercifully been cut. Confirmation?"

Denied. Geek chorus was in it tonight.

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CATSNYrevival
#1028Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 3:12am

^ I'm glad. I hate the geek chorus, but I'd miss Gideon Glick.

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SeanMartin
#1029Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 5:44am

From what I understand of the show's structure, it'd be almost impossible to cut the chorus, as it would make an already incomprehensible show more so.


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sundaymorning6am
#1030Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:23am

Here's my really, really long critique of last night's performance (12/11/10). Yes, the Geek Chorus was still in it and it needs to be cut. Okay, here goes:

The energy in the theatre pre-show was electric and the theatre was packed, with a cancellation line outside. Everyone was excited to be there and to witness this theatrical phenomenon. Lead producer Michael Cohl stepped out onto the stage before the first act started and apologized ahead of time for any stops there might be, explaining that they are still working out the technical kinks. There will be lots of spoilers, so if you read on, be prepared.

So, I thought I walked into the wrong theatre for the first ten minutes of the show. The show starts with the story of Arachne, a fantastic weaver who angered Pallas Athena, the goddess of crafts, so Athena turned her into what was the first spider. Then the scene changes to MJ being tied up on a building and Spiderman running to save her. We then segue into a classroom of the “Geek Chorus” who are essentially writing this story and pop in and out of the plot throughout. My favorites were Gideon Glick and TV Carpio (from Across the Universe). Problem #1: The Geek Chorus is fine at the beginning, I suppose, but they do nothing but stop the action through out the rest of the show and they’re unnecessary. I’m sure they’re being woven into the action is to allow for costume and set changes, but there has to be a better way. They really, really made the show drag. Regarding the mythology that Taymor inserted into the first part of the show, it also made the show drag and I could tell that no one around me cared. Problem #2: I think the show needs to start off with a bang of some sort and not a lesson in Greek mythology.

The song title Bullying By Numbers has been given just because it kind of sounds cool. There are no numbers in the song, at least not that I heard or saw.

Bouncing Off the Walls is Peter Parker’s first foray into the world of being a spider and it’s a lot of fun. He jumps around the walls of his room and wins the wrestling match that everyone knows from the movie (I’m assuming it’s in the comic book too, but I’m not sure).

The awesome: There are a few great flying scenes in the first act, but the mindblowing scene is his fight with the Green Goblin at the end of the first act at the top of the Chrysler Building. Spideman lands on the edges of the balcony AND mezzanine, as well as in the aisles of the orchestra. He fights with the Green Goblin above the orchestra and it’s magical. Everyone behind us (and it was the adults too, not just the children) was in awe, exclaiming, “That is SO cool!”

Problem #3: The third problem is the (almost) entirety of the book for the second act. It doesn’t come from the comic book or the movie, it’s entirely made up and it makes little sense, if any at all.

The entr’acte is Spiderman flying around and saving people, while simultaneously angering MJ because he is always late to meet her and he never has a good excuse. He tosses his suit in the garbage, saying farewell to being Spiderman and the city goes up in flames and into chaos. The Geek Chorus leads an ‘ugly pageant’ of the six villains that are introduced into the show, The Sinister Six, in addition to seeing the Green Goblin again. Problem #4: The Sinister Six (comprised of Carnage, Craven the Hunter, The Lizard, Electro, Swiss Miss, and Swarm - the last two were made up entirely for the show) really serve no purpose. The waltz across the stage once or twice, sing the song “Sinistereo,” and then Spiderman ends up fighting their digital versions.

Arachne is also re-introduced as a spider and banishes the Geek Chorus and proclaims that her and her six back-up spiders are going to tell the rest of the story. Problem #5: When it is announced that there is looting, Arachne and her spiderwomen get excited and they loot shoes - lots of shoes. This song (which was called either “Think Again” or “Deeply Furious”) served no purpose and was really ridiculous. Why was the audience being made to watch half-a-dozen spiders sing a song about shoes? Cut it.

MJ’s song towards the end of Act 2, “If the World Should End,” is really pretty and was one of my favorites. Jennifer Damiano did a great job with it. The next song, “The Boy Falls From the Sky,” which was the song Reeve Carney performed on GMA a few months ago, is really great as well. It’s really dark but has a great melody. The electric guitar riff that’s played during much of this number is also really prominent throughout the rest of the show (which is good, because I liked it a lot).

The great:
The scenic design. It looks like the sets were pulled right off a comic book page and they’re epic, obviously. They move and change, and do it all quite quickly and smoothly. They’re really stunningly beautiful. During the fight at the top of the Chrysler Building, the audience is meant to be seeing a birds eye view of the fight, so we’re looking down the Chrysler Building, and they even went as far as to show the taxis passing buy on the ground ‘below,’ which was a neat tidbit.

The special affects. There were crew members all over the stage, but they do a REALLY good job at hiding them due in part to their costumes and due in part to clever lighting. My favorite really subtle special affect was the flyer that hits Peter’s leg informing him of the wrestling match. There was a crew member who had the flyer on a stick but you couldn’t see him, except for maybe a moment. It was very subtle and neat.

Reeve Carney, Jennifer Damiano, and Patrick Page (as the Green Goblin) are obvious stand-outs in the cast. Carney and Damiano fully embody the emotional growth that their characters go through, and Page is just entertaining as hell.

The flying. Duh. This is why everyone is coming to the show. They want to see the cast flying around the theatre. What they do is amazing but they should add more of it.

The projections: There are lots of projections and they’re all really interesting to look at, and watch. They’re a darker version of what was in Across the Universe. The projection of the Green Goblin once he takes over the the airwaves looks a little too much like Jigsaw from “Saw” though.

The last few criticisms. I think the cast needs to work on annunciating the lyrics because oftentimes you can’t understand what they’re saying. I don’t know if Carney is being told to sing with a really raspy and gruff effect to his voice, but if not, someone needs to step in and ask him to change this. The lead guitarists in the orchestra stand on a house left panel the entire time, which I think is meant to make the show seem really hardcore and rock and roll, but they just look a little awkward onstage. I heard kids walking out of the theatre telling their parents that they didn’t like second act, so I hope Taymor’s been hearing that when she’s been in the house too.

Overall I thoroughly enjoyed the show. There was no stopping either, and it clocked in at 3 hours. The score isn’t incredibly memorable but it isn’t bad either and it’s very U2-sounding. I can only hope now that Taymor is in her plush apartment re-writing the book to the second act and maybe staying a bit truer to the comic book or movie because I’m pretty sure that’s what people want to see.
Updated On: 12/12/10 at 11:23 AM

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steven22
#1031Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:32am

How is America Olivo doing as Arachne?

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PReeves2
#1032Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:32am

Sunday, thanks for the well thought out and constructive critique.

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SingingChef
#1033Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:49am

Excited for TV Carpio to go on as Arachne on Wednesday. :}

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steven22
#1034Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:53am

TV Carpio understudies Arachne?!

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steven22
#1035Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:54am

I thought Jodi McFadden and America Olivo were the Arachne understudies?

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SingingChef
#1036Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 11:57am

Carpio covers the role as well and is scheduled to go on Wednesday.

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The Distinctive Baritone
#1037Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 12:02pm

T.V. Carpio does not understudy Arachne, or at least was not listed as an understudy in the program. But perhaps they are letting Jodi McFadden go on to give Olivo a break? And when is Mendoza coming back???

sundaymorning6am
#1038Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 12:04pm

America Olivo was fine as Arachne. I wasn't blown away but she did her job. Of course, I don't have anything to compare it to, so...

rorschach37
#1039Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 12:23pm

Do they sell any of Carney's band merchandise at the theatre?

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SingingChef
#1040Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 12:32pm

Not yet.

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Blockhead24
#1041Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 12:55pm

thanks sundaymorning for your thoughts..I agree with basically everything you said

perfectliar
#1042Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 1:51pm

Chef, how do you know T.V. Carpio is playing Arachne on Wednesday? That's the day I'm going, and if it's true then I'm THRILLED... I love her.

Also, sunday, were there any stops at your performance? Are they pretty much past that phase now?

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Blockhead24
#1043Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 2:02pm

I know you weren't asking me but I went on Friday and there was 1 two minute stop

perfectliar
#1044Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 2:30pm

Hmm, ok. I was kind of hoping they'd have all the small kinks worked out in the first 2 weeks.

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adamgreer
#1045Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 2:36pm

^The flying is hardly a small kink.

perfectliar
#1046Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 3:21pm

I didn't say it was. But a two-minute stop is a smaller kink than the multiple and longer stops of the first few previews.

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TheatreDork3
#1047Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 8:16pm

Apparently, I got very lucky on Wednesday because there were no stops. In fact, we were the first night there were no stops (and sadly, maybe one of the last from the sounds of it).

I'm still hopeful, but it's just not looking promising yet.

TD


Show's I've Seen: 2011: American Idiot, Lombardi, Screwtape Letters, Adams Family, Imaginocean, Phantom - 2010: Spiderman, A Little Night Music, Bloody, Bloody Andrew Jackson, La Cage aux Faux, Next to Normal (twice), Fanny (City Center), Next Fall, - 2009: Finian's Rainbow, Let Me Down Easy, Toxic Avenger, Hair, Mary Stuart, 9 to 5, Avenue Q (a few times), Young Frankenstein, Cry Baby, Applause (City Center), Xanadu, Legally Blond, Glorious Ones, Gutenberg: The Musical, Spring Awakening, Company, Dessa Rose, Jersey Boys, The Color Purple, Taboo, Altar Boys, Lestat, The Weddings Singer, Hairspray, Spamalot, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Wicked, Brooklyn, Urinetown, 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee, Grey Gardens, Drowsy Chaperon, Thoroughly Modern Millie, Les Miserable, Aida, Great American Trailer Park Musical, Into The Woods, Naked Boys Singing, Cabaret, Last Five Years, Jekyll & Hyde, Corpus Christi, Side Show, Rent (a few times), Footloose, and Ragtime (First Broadway Show I saw).

henryt
#1048Spiderman Preview Thread!
Posted: 12/12/10 at 9:59pm

There were no stops last night and Michael Cohl made a joke about how if the show went three consecutive performances without any stops, he wouldn't have to make an announcement anymore.

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