#1126
Posted: 12/18/10 at 4:46pm
Here we go. The next person to post after me should push it to the next page which will get us off of this terribly difficult one.
Spiderman Preview Thread! — Page 46
#1127
Posted: 12/18/10 at 4:49pm
Hopefully this will help get a new page. That picture is so annyoing.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
#1128
Posted: 12/18/10 at 4:50pm
Will this get us to a new page?
EDIT: Success!
EDIT: Success!
Updated On: 12/18/10 at 04:50 PM
#1129
Let's just keep adding posts. Page 46 is bound to come eventually.
EDIT: Oh, dear. I'm sorry I was so behind on this. Carry on.
Posted: 12/18/10 at 5:07pm
Let's just keep adding posts. Page 46 is bound to come eventually.
EDIT: Oh, dear. I'm sorry I was so behind on this. Carry on.
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Updated On: 12/18/10 at 05:07 PM
#1130
Posted: 12/18/10 at 8:27pm
Here's the link to the Variety article I mentioned earlier. Sorry that I brain-farted and forgot to paste it in the earlier post.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118029227
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118029227
#1131
Posted: 12/18/10 at 9:02pm
AEA AGMA SM - Thanks so much for that article! That was very interesting.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
#1132
Posted: 12/18/10 at 10:05pm
Matthew James Thomas was on for the mat I heard...
#1133
Posted: 12/18/10 at 11:16pm
Can someone post a VERY accurate synopsis that includes spoilers and song titles on here or PM me??
#1134
Posted: 12/18/10 at 11:55pm
Wow, we really don't want to let ourselves be enchanted anymore, do we? Won't that take a lot out of the experience of seeing it for yourself? I would like to request that whoever responds to suttonfoster's post do so by PM, because I'm sure there are many readers of the board who don't want to tread through tons of Spoiler warnings for the entire plot.
#1135
Posted: 12/19/10 at 12:25am
I saw the show tonight...slight spoilers ahead.
Just sort of generally, I think act one is fixable...it sticks very close to the plot of the first film. Mostly they need book/lyric rewrites because those are the things that are distracting. It really confused me that the characters seemed to speak randomly in rhymes, and it sounded quite forced (though the actors were doing their best). The second act is the real problem here...it just veers into the strange and incomprehensible and that shoe song is just...let's just say I had my hand covering my mouth so that my giggles wouldn't escape, haha. I did really like "Boy Falls From the Sky" and "If the World Should End" though...those were really the only two songs in the score that stood out to me.
Visually it's stunning. I really loved the forced perspective and comic-book feel of the sets, particularly in the scene between the Green Goblin and Spider-Man toward the end of the first act.
Performance-wise, I was indifferent about Reeve Carney...his singing was sort of painful at times, and his acting was mediocre. Patrick Page was very good and I wish he was given more to do. Jennifer Damiano did well with the material she was given, and her voice was sounding better than I have heard it sound in a while. Natalie Mendoza has a fantastic voice and did a lot with what she was given. The actors in the Geek Chorus were also really good...I love Gideon Glick, I think he's adorable (and way too talented for this).
I really think a workshop or reading would have helped them out...perhaps then Taymor would have realized that the second act is incomprehensible. I really tried to go in with an open mind but the show is just...bad.
Also, I'd really like to know why Harry Osborn was cut...he's really important in the first film and I assume in the comics as well.
Just sort of generally, I think act one is fixable...it sticks very close to the plot of the first film. Mostly they need book/lyric rewrites because those are the things that are distracting. It really confused me that the characters seemed to speak randomly in rhymes, and it sounded quite forced (though the actors were doing their best). The second act is the real problem here...it just veers into the strange and incomprehensible and that shoe song is just...let's just say I had my hand covering my mouth so that my giggles wouldn't escape, haha. I did really like "Boy Falls From the Sky" and "If the World Should End" though...those were really the only two songs in the score that stood out to me.
Visually it's stunning. I really loved the forced perspective and comic-book feel of the sets, particularly in the scene between the Green Goblin and Spider-Man toward the end of the first act.
Performance-wise, I was indifferent about Reeve Carney...his singing was sort of painful at times, and his acting was mediocre. Patrick Page was very good and I wish he was given more to do. Jennifer Damiano did well with the material she was given, and her voice was sounding better than I have heard it sound in a while. Natalie Mendoza has a fantastic voice and did a lot with what she was given. The actors in the Geek Chorus were also really good...I love Gideon Glick, I think he's adorable (and way too talented for this).
I really think a workshop or reading would have helped them out...perhaps then Taymor would have realized that the second act is incomprehensible. I really tried to go in with an open mind but the show is just...bad.
Also, I'd really like to know why Harry Osborn was cut...he's really important in the first film and I assume in the comics as well.
Updated On: 12/19/10 at 12:25 AM
#1136
Posted: 12/19/10 at 11:27am
I thought Matthew James Thomas as Peter Parker was amazing. this kid can sing!
#1137
Posted: 12/19/10 at 3:29pm
Joshua Kobak (American Idiot) and Alice Lee (Spring Awakening) have joined the cast of Spider-Man. Are they listed in the playbill yet? What roles do they cover?
#1138
Posted: 12/19/10 at 4:33pm
Kobak is listed as a swing on playbill.com and Lee isn't listed yet.
#1139
Posted: 12/19/10 at 5:04pm
Kobak is in the Playbill I got last night.
#1140
Posted: 12/20/10 at 2:11pm
Harry isn't extremely essential early on in the comics. Especially in the Ultimate versions (the ones I've been reading). He kind of shows up and the disappears for a while to be brainwashed after he finds out his father is GG. It would be preferable to have him obviously due to his relationship with Norman, but it could certainly function without him. He's not even really Peter's bff in the Ultimates, since MJ sort of takes that place.
"Are you sorry for civilization? I am sorry for it too." ~Coast of Utopia: Shipwreck
#1141
Posted: 12/20/10 at 3:09pm
Ultimate comics, and Ultimate Spiderman, is a stream-lined reinterpretation of the Marvel mythos, however. Harry Osborne figures more into the original "Earth-616" continuity--which one would assume Taymor & Co. would be working off of... how I wish they'd pay more attention to Ultimate Spiderman, though in both making films and animation.
I am a huge fan of Ultimate Spiderman. It started out as a way to gain young readers who found Spidey's current mythos too convoluted and therefore hard to jump on (Clone Saga, anyone?). However, Brian Michael Bendis's writing ended up appealing more to adult readers, so the Ultimates line of books took a serious adult-directed turn.
So, yeah, Bendis took a different tact with Harry Osborn and the Goblin in general (he's a mutated creature, not a dude in a mask). Clone Saga even got a brilliant re-imagining that I could see being turned into a musical.
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#1142
Posted: 12/20/10 at 5:40pm
Saw the show Sunday afternoon (for the first time). It was not the trainwreck I had anticipated, nor was its technology mind-boggling. For the most part, though, I had a good time. Probably the biggest problem with the show is obviously that it ends in the middle of a story. It's a good thing they recalled Bono from Dublin, though it boggles my mind a) that they couldn't have seen this coming and b) that he wasn't there in person, regardless of touring or whatever else. Yet I still can't see Bono saving the show, since almost every song in the show SUX. There are a couple of decent ones, but most are mediocre and some downright painful. The 'generals song' in particular was a nightmare. Such dreck--it should be CUT IMMEDIATELY. I didn't care for a couple of Arachne's numbers, and though I know many people are crazy about her voice, I'm not! I actually found her quite dissonant and screechy at the end of one number. So yeah, I don't know exactly how Bono is gonna mend this tattered quilt with his jagged scissors, but I hold out hope. I think Reeve is very hot and acts quite well. His singing is sultry at times, though maybe his voices tires a bit by the end of the evening? All things considered, I'm very fond of him. And he looks very dashing in his Spider costume. Lean but toned. A+. The tall white acrobat-Spiderman is really hunky, too, just FYI. When he pulled off his mask at the end, wow. Solid! There were some great visual effects: love the aerials-turned-weaving; and the view from the Chrysler building had the sense of really looking down, especially when the Hornet flew around and disoriented us. Nice work. I didn't find the Geek Chorus so offensive, and at times felt that it did help the show cohere. The flying was fun, though with the exception of that one fight scene and one of the really low 'zooms' over the audience, I actually think that Cathy Rigby's flying is just as fun! (No joke.) The fight scene is engaging, though going "between the ropes" kinda calls attention to the ropes, which seems to diminish the fun of the illusion, but that's okay. The flying is still impressive, and the 'Foxwoods' is perfect for this show.
All in all, I had fun. It wasn't brilliant, nor was it bad. But with Julie Taymor behind it, a little bit of me was disappointed that it didn't feel as "epic" or as "inspired" as I had imagined. I would be okay with a $65M failure if it really felt like it was on the edge of something unexpected. Can't say that was the case, but it's still a solid evening's entertainment. And at least you know your money isn't going into some fatcat's pocket -- it's all right there in front of you!
All in all, I had fun. It wasn't brilliant, nor was it bad. But with Julie Taymor behind it, a little bit of me was disappointed that it didn't feel as "epic" or as "inspired" as I had imagined. I would be okay with a $65M failure if it really felt like it was on the edge of something unexpected. Can't say that was the case, but it's still a solid evening's entertainment. And at least you know your money isn't going into some fatcat's pocket -- it's all right there in front of you!
Updated On: 12/20/10 at 05:40 PM
#1143
Posted: 12/20/10 at 6:26pm
twinbelters-
Awesome explanation of the Ultimate series. I honestly haven't read too many of the older original Spider-man outside of for a while in the late 90's and some of the landmark issues like Gwen Stacey's death. Unfortunately I picked it up again right in 2007 as One More Day was happening and saw what I was NOT missing.
I love Ultimate Spider-man though for its clarity and simplicity in characters. My favorite aspect of it though will always be the way they changed Gwen Stacey from being a simpering co-ed with no personality into an awesome badass who wasn't just another love interest, but instead a tough and real teenage girl. I hope we see some of that come through in the next movie! Too bad it didn't carry to the musical! (The simplicity too)
Awesome explanation of the Ultimate series. I honestly haven't read too many of the older original Spider-man outside of for a while in the late 90's and some of the landmark issues like Gwen Stacey's death. Unfortunately I picked it up again right in 2007 as One More Day was happening and saw what I was NOT missing.
I love Ultimate Spider-man though for its clarity and simplicity in characters. My favorite aspect of it though will always be the way they changed Gwen Stacey from being a simpering co-ed with no personality into an awesome badass who wasn't just another love interest, but instead a tough and real teenage girl. I hope we see some of that come through in the next movie! Too bad it didn't carry to the musical! (The simplicity too)
"Are you sorry for civilization? I am sorry for it too." ~Coast of Utopia: Shipwreck
#1144
Posted: 12/20/10 at 6:30pm
I read somewhere (I believe on here) that advances for the show are dwindling quickly...any merit?
"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."
#1145
Posted: 12/20/10 at 6:51pm
Kat: I recommend any Ultimates title helmed by Bendis, Millar, and Vaughan. Elisa made some solid contributions as well. US has been consistently amazing, however, and continues to be today.
The thing that I love about the Spidey/PP from US is his warmth. I find myself really caring for him. But the stories are the stars with huge emotion, pain, and mitral ambiguity. I also love Peter's position in the Ultimate Universe. He is just a young man in NY but he connects everything, and the serum that transforms him was once the last hope to recreate Cap A's super soldier serum. Smart, simple, and a great story generator.
And yes, Ultimate Gwen Stacy is a brilliant character. The pain, though. Oh, the pain.
I get none of this beauty and potential from what I've experienced of TODT.
The thing that I love about the Spidey/PP from US is his warmth. I find myself really caring for him. But the stories are the stars with huge emotion, pain, and mitral ambiguity. I also love Peter's position in the Ultimate Universe. He is just a young man in NY but he connects everything, and the serum that transforms him was once the last hope to recreate Cap A's super soldier serum. Smart, simple, and a great story generator.
And yes, Ultimate Gwen Stacy is a brilliant character. The pain, though. Oh, the pain.
I get none of this beauty and potential from what I've experienced of TODT.
With Irma you gotta do something!
#1146
Posted: 12/20/10 at 7:05pm
My cousin (who's your typical teenaged theatre fan) saw yesterday's matinee and said that "everything about it was amazing."
#1147
Posted: 12/20/10 at 7:21pm
haha- So true! Up until the end, I really thought she would stick around this time! I guess I could see how her story was played out to its most by that point though.
I really haven't read much of the other Ultimate titles, but I'll have to check out the Bendis, Millar and Vaughn titles! Thanks for the rec! I'd be interested to see more from Ultimate Nick Fury and such.
I really haven't read much of the other Ultimate titles, but I'll have to check out the Bendis, Millar and Vaughn titles! Thanks for the rec! I'd be interested to see more from Ultimate Nick Fury and such.
"Are you sorry for civilization? I am sorry for it too." ~Coast of Utopia: Shipwreck
#1148
Posted: 12/20/10 at 8:01pm
Elisa = Warren Ellis
Mitral = moral
Why is a mitral? Silly swype.
=)
The original Millar/Hitch run of Ultimates is all I can rec where that's concerned. Fury is good in the Ellis minis tho.
Boublil/Schoenberg could musicalize Fury maybe?
Mitral = moral
Why is a mitral? Silly swype.
=)
The original Millar/Hitch run of Ultimates is all I can rec where that's concerned. Fury is good in the Ellis minis tho.
Boublil/Schoenberg could musicalize Fury maybe?
With Irma you gotta do something!
#1149
Posted: 12/20/10 at 8:54pm
haha- I would TOTALLY see a Nick Fury musical. Hey, Samuel L Jackson is coming to Bway soon anyway. He should just stick around for it!
"Are you sorry for civilization? I am sorry for it too." ~Coast of Utopia: Shipwreck
#1150
Posted: 12/20/10 at 9:09pm
"Peeeterrr, when you turn eighteen you're miiiiine!"
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