THE QUEEN OF VERSAILLES with Kristin Chenowith & F. Murray Abraham to open at St. James in November- Page 11

[Dom P]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 8:28pm

pagereynolds said: "gibsons2 said: "theatreguy said: "It seems she should have gone the Nicole route - have your team write a carefully-worded message that youpost on social media and thenavoid the press unless in a group situation like the Hollywood Reporter roundtable.

Buttaking the time to do an on camera interview and then having almost nothing to say ...? I would love to know if this is what her team decided she should do or if she went rogue. She could have apologized, she could have said she believes anyone who accepts Jesus into their heart goes to heaven no matter what else they did or said in their life and everyone else can deal with it.She could lie, she could tell the truth, ANYTHING. Now, as this thread indicates, she's just opened herself up AGAIN for people to come up with their own interpretations of what she thinks. Her goal here was to neutralize the controversy, get the focus back on her show and SELL TICKETS. But now the Queen of Versailles thread has been derailed into a "How do you solve a problem like Kristin?" thread!

I don't think she secretly hates gay people or that her self-identificationas an LGBTQ ally is insincere. At worst she's probably a bit naive, but her crisis-management instincts are not serving her. I think she would have been better offer staying quiet."

All the really terrific suggestions, but they imply Kristin is intelligent enough forself reflection,understanding what kind of damage she hascaused and impact her words have on people.

Nicole was smart enough to trust professionals with damage control and remainedquiet.

Kristin never struck me as someone with at least average intelligence. And her response wasn't an apology.

I feel that the more the celebrities talk, the more money they manage to save me."

It's not like she was speaking extemporaneously without the knowledge of her team. Come on. Are you suggesting that she say, "no comment" when asked about it?

"I read her response, and it seemed to me very meh, meh meh. And i guess I was a fool to expect something, anything more. I know we have no right to expect anything from anyone we're not even distantly personally aquainted with, but i'd hope for something of substance. I get she said reading the discourse upset her and others. But then nothing. 🦗 crickets.

 

 

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 9:08pm

I admit, I *am* curious if Oklahoma City University cares about her comment agreeing with Selma Blair about universities being a cauldron of indoctrination.  Isn't she still an artist in residence there?  (Admittedly, personally this just makes me think how little Chenoweth really thinks before posting anything on social media, which I guess is obvious.)

[gibsons2]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 9:30pm

Observation said: "Ya'll are going to shame her into a full on conservative and wonder what happened."

You can't shame someone into becoming a conservative. If you make that switch based on the public pressure, you've always been one. 

You also can't just pick and choose whose rights and liberties you support and conveniently ignore the rest of the groups whose civil rights and liberties are dismantled on a daily basis. Bigotry is not an opinion. If one of us looses some rights, all our rights are at risk. 

Again, I don't think Kristin understands it. It's a shame though. As a woman, whether she wants it or not, she's a part of the collective "DEI". If we don't stand for each other, we don't have any chance to survive what's happening.

[EmceeHammer]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 10:19pm

Observation said:Ya'll are going to shame her into a full on conservative and wonder what happened.

Sure, but if that’s how it works then the actual censorship, intimidation, and “cancel culture” coming from the current White House and Congress will just push her back further to the left and it will balance out. 

Or maybe Chenoweth is like most people and her beliefs are rooted in deep experience and not subject to the sort of reactive or reactionary mood swings we see from the crazy people dominating our cultural conversation.

Touch grass. See a show. The real world is beautiful and complicated. I think we can all have empathy for outside perspectives even if we disagree. 

I’m so sick of this argument that expressing disagreement or concern is tantamount to pushing someone to lash out or shut down. That’s the framework of an abuser, and we don’t need to obey it.

Updated On: 9/18/25 at 10:19 PM

[Playbill_Trash]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 10:44pm

Any word on a discount code or a thread here/ site where I can find one? Any chance they’ll start discounting tickets soon?

[Auggie27]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 10:46pm

The issued statement on Instagram has so far been negatively received - many wondering how it took 8 days to draft such weak damage control - and has done zero to curb the lingering outrage. Chenoweth tours her concerts and has a decided red state fan base. If she’s parsing her rebuttal slash apology to make everyone happy - particularly those possibly headed to the St. James - she’s failed. Certainly members of the NY theater community are unlikely to find her words adequate.

[inception]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 10:49pm

Playbill_Trash said: "Any word on a discount code or a thread here/ site where I can find one? Any chance they’ll start discounting tickets soon?"

Someone on Reddit posted QOFVMAIL

Looks like if I had waited for that code I would have saved $30

Updated On: 9/18/25 at 10:49 PM

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 10:58pm

Observation said: "Ensemble1711444445 said: "Observation said: "If I had to guess, she agreed with Kirk on all the Christian, He is King, Praise Him Hallelujah viewpoints, and she disagreed with the comments made about the LGTBQ community. She clearly states that it's about duality and I know a lot of people (I bet you do too, just might not know it) that think exactly the same way she does.

Ya'll are going to shame her into a full on conservative and wonder what happened."

OR maybe they will shame her into agreeing that most all of his views were twisted distortions of what the Bible intended.

"

Shaming people never works. Ever."

Accountability isn’t shaming. It feels like it is when you typically rely on sliding by bc of privilege. 

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 9/18/25 at 11:06pm

Observation said: "It's so weird. She doesn't owe anyone anything. Just like she doesn't owe a fan an autograph, she doesn't owe anyone any further statement on how she feels.

If you disagree with her and are disappointed in her, that is understandable, don't support her, if you want to see the show, go see it with the incredible Sherrie. But the entitlement that she needs to answer to your questions is truly bizarre."

Questioning one’s support of a racist isn’t bizarre. You absolving accountability is the kind of ignorance that leads to people like Trump destroying democracy. But please continue to white-splan why I should just move on.

“The shut up and just support” crowd is what allows facism to weasel its way into the everyday. If Trump would have it these boards could one day be obsolete for being too progressing. But go off. Let’s let Kristin slide about grieving a Nazi. It’s giving Cabaret is my favorite musical. But when it happens in real life get over it folks. Your argument doesn’t sound dumb at all! 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:32am

Observation said: "Shaming people never works. Ever."

We just saw it work on Patti LuPone (of all people), didn't we?

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:32am

Observation said: "But the entitlement that she needs to answer to your questions is truly bizarre."

It's not that she owes anyone an answer. It's that some of us would be more comfortable forgiving and forgetting if she did a better job clearing things up.

[east side story]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:35am

At least we know which theatre Evita is headed to this spring.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:36am

Just in time for Sherie to have a little break and go into DBH when Megan or Jennifer leave.

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:38am

kdogg36 said: "Observation said: "Shaming people never works. Ever."

We just saw it work on Patti LuPone (of all people), didn't we?"


Not really lol she just had to make a statement so everyone would shut up and move on to the next drama of the week

[pagereynolds]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:38am

east side story said: "At least we know which theatre Evita is headed to this spring."

The vast majority of theatre ticket buyers do not care at all about an one comment on Instagram, nor will they have ever heard about it.

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:40am

pagereynolds said: "east side story said: "At least we know which theatre Evita is headed to this spring."

The vast majority of theatre ticket buyers do not care at all about an one comment on Instagram, nor will they have ever heard about it."

 

The vast majority of ticket buyers don't care and haven't heard about this show, regardless of Instagram comments.

[pagereynolds]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:43am

TotallyEffed said: "pagereynolds said: "east side story said: "At least we know which theatre Evita is headed to this spring."

The vast majority of theatre ticket buyers do not care at all about an one comment on Instagram, nor will they have ever heard about it."

The vast majority of ticket buyers don't care and haven't heard about this show, regardless of Instagram comments."

I mean this is laughably untrue. People know "from the creators of Wicked" and will see the commercials and other marketing.

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:44am

Tell that to Redwood.

[pagereynolds]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:46am

TotallyEffed said: "Tell that to Redwood."

Redwood was written by Stephen Schwartz? News to me.

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 11:48am

girl just look at advance ticket sales for this show, it's not rocket science

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 9/19/25 at 7:44pm

This’ll be Kristin’s REDWOOD. Once it closes, I’m sure Kristin and Idina will have dinner to laugh at where their most recent star vehicles on Broadway, each created specifically for them, flopped like a dead fish. 

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 4:32pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "This’ll be Kristin’s REDWOOD. Once it closes, I’m sure Kristin and Idina will have dinner to laugh at where their most recent star vehicles on Broadway, each created specifically for them, flopped like a dead fish."

Well it certainly has much better and solid bones than Redwood had, score and book wise.  If it will have much audience appeal remains to be seen.

[Kad]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 4:56pm

I don't think Chenoweth is a major draw beyond a limited audience base and I am not sure the excess-focused marketing they are doing is going to be very appealing given the socioeconomic climate right now. 

[DaveyG]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 5:38pm

Sales still sluggish. They will need great reviews and probably a priority loan to make it to awards season. 

[The Bandstand]

Posted: 9/20/25 at 6:04pm

I wonder if they will come out with a previews ticketing scheme like liberation or carry a cake