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Toughest Musicals To Do

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Forester
#0Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:37pm

In your humble opinions, what are the top 5 musicals that are tough to do?

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Michael Bennett
#1re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:38pm

In what context? Budget? Difficulty to perform? Toughest to get an audience to come see it?

trpguyy
#2re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:40pm

Talent-wise: West Side Story, Les Miz

Tech-wise: Beauty and the Beast, Wizard of Oz (if you want it to lok good)
Updated On: 4/4/05 at 01:40 PM

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Forester
#3re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:40pm

Difficulty to perform and/or production
Updated On: 4/4/05 at 01:40 PM

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Michael Bennett
#4re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:42pm

I'll add talent wise -- The whole Sondheim ouevre.

Tech wise -- PETER PAN

trpguyy
#5re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:58pm

ahh yes, how could I forget Sondheim and Peter Pan?

The good thing about Peter Pan, though, is that you have to professional companies who can take care of the technical aspects for you.

peach
#6re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:04pm

Some tough ones talent wise...

West Side Story - no explanation needed.
Most of Sondheim's work - no explanation needed.
Carousel - looks easier than it is. You need the perfect Billy Bigelow for it to work like it should (and still not my favorite show though).

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jonartdesigns
#7re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:04pm

casting wise- H2$- especially in community theaters, finding all those men isn't fun.

performance wise- anything by sondheim

tech wise- damn yankees (atleast the way i invisioned it), beauty and the beast, wicked(once it goes community)


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apdarcey
#8re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:04pm

i think for most places it is hard to get a cast to do ragtime or miss saigon or dreamgirls.

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broadway86
#9re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:04pm

"Ragtime". Large scale, large cast. Excellent singers/actors are a MUST! Updated On: 4/4/05 at 02:04 PM

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MagicToDo82
#10re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:12pm

Dreamgirls and Ragtime are both huge shows, both cast-wise and technically, to produce. Plus, both are shows that can't really be open-cast (based on plot elements) which can make finding the talent needed tricky.

I would also think A Chorus Line would be hard to do in most community theatre groups, where it's hard to find that many trained and excellent dancer/singers.


There's always room for pathos - and jazz hands.

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Michael Bennett
#11re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:21pm

I'm not sure that WICKED is all that technically different. I mean if you were to try to reproduce the Broadway effects it might be, but there will surely be creative solutions to Glinda's bubble entrance and Elphaba's "flying". The show doesn't really rely on those thing in the same way that you really "have" to have PETER PAN fly, etc.

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Thenardier
#12re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:25pm

Well, you need Elphaba to fly - which isn't that hard to do...


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VivLaVieBoheme
#13re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:43pm

Um definitely either Les Mis or Miss Saigon.


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VivLaVieBoheme
#14re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:44pm

*gasp* I just realized I moved up in rank! I'm an understudy!! yay


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JoshuaEads
#15re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:08pm

Costume-wise I'd have to say "My Fair Lady".
Talent-wise I'd say most things Sondheim.
Technically I'd agree with "Peter Pan".

I'm sure there are tons more, but I'm at work and my brain is fried! :-

~Joshua


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Mister Matt
#16re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:16pm

Chorus - Sweeney Todd (most difficult chorus music)
Singing - Tapestry: The Music of Carole King (two solid hours of singing involving most of the cast in almost every song)
Physical - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum/A Day in Hollywood A Night in the Ukraine
Dancing - A Chorus Line
Acting - Hello Again (very difficult to get both characters right and then play the chorus characters and learn the difficult music)
Singing/Acting/Dancing - West Side Story


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Elizabeth_DeBris
#17re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:24pm

Along with the ones listed, I would think Gypsy would be fairly hard to do, talent-wise, because Momma Rose IS the show, and that part requires a powerhouse actress and singer. I'd think that would make it difficult to do.

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loganp37
#18re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:28pm

I know this is not "able to be" produced by anyone besides Broadway and National Touring casts, as of yet. But I think Movin Out is probally the toughest dance musical to do. BATB, though it looks better with large sets and costumes it can be done on a much smaller budget and production time.

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cut_loose
#19re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:30pm

West Side Story and A Chorus Line would both be really hard talent wise.
It seems like Peter Pan would actually be less difficult than Wicked, tech wise, because as far as I know (which, granted, isnt a lot), all peter pan needs is strings and harnesses to fly. wicked, however seems like it would be a lot harder, even if you dont try to emulate all the biroadway stuff. isnt there like a platform thing that elphaba has to stand on at the end of defying gravity, while shes connected to a harness and strings?

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KelRel
#20re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:34pm

IF you want to stay true to the effects Wicked would be really hard to do community theatre wise. Miss Siagon would be hard too.


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sassypanz
#21re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:37pm

Peter pan, Phantom of Opera, Aida, Gypsy sorta

Gothampc
#22re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:51pm

Oh! Calcutta! Do you know how tough it is to perform bad material in the nude?


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redhotinnyc2
#23re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:54pm

In My career, the two most difficult scores to learn were Sweeney Todd and Sunday in the Park with George - but once I had them down, I got more enjoyment out of performing those roles than almost any others I had done, with the exception of Cervantes in Man of La Mancha - that one will always be my favorite.


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CATSNYrevival
#24re: Toughest Musicals To Do
Posted: 4/4/05 at 4:39pm

I'm gonna have to say CATS really for all production aspects. I'm dreading this show finally being available for regional. all the set pieces have to either be made specific for the show or rented. the lights too. the theatre either has to have a killer lighting system or rent them. the set, even though it's made up of crap we throw out every day, has to be made to scale so you can't just go to a theatrical supply store and pick these things up. special effects wise, if you want it to look good, is going to need a lot of attention with smoke machines, dry ice and some kind of assent for Grizabella has to be achieved. as well as all the costumes, make-up and wigs. it's really easy to make it look bad. it takes a bit of effort to make it look good.


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