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WICKED musical secrets

WICKED musical secrets

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defyinggravity2
#1WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 7:32pm

Hey, guys. I know there has already been a thread about this, but I can't find it, so I'm reposting it. Does anyone know any secrets about the score of WICKED? I know a few, such as the "Unlimited" theme, that re-occurs a few times throughout the show, is the same 7 notes as the first 7 notes of "somewhere over the rainbow". Also, In "The Wizard and I", when Elphie says about a celebration throughout Oz that's all to do with her, she is referring to the celebration of her death. Anything else? Thanks guys!

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TheatreDiva90016
#2WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 7:49pm

They all die in the end.


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bdn223
#2WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 7:56pm

It is a circular plot structure...the show starts and ends in the same place time wise. Also the entire show with the exception of No One Mourns the Wicked takes place within a TV screen, aka the Dragon Clock.
On the last thing you said, she does not know it will be her apparent demise, it's actually quite an ironic statement.

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blaxx
#3WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 8:07pm

Also, In "The Wizard and I", when Elphie says about a celebration throughout Oz that's all to do with her, she is referring to the celebration of her death.

That's a secret?


Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE

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TheatreDiva90016
#4WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 8:07pm

Yes.


Shhhhhhhhhhh.


"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2

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ggersten
#5WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 8:08pm

The score was actually written by Stephen Sondheim, but as a favor Sondheim let Schwartz claim credit.

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blaxx
#6WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 8:09pm

That would be NO favor.


Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE

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TheatreDiva90016
#7WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 8:09pm

I can't believe you can't ONE single thread without searching. They were countless.


"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2

Bwaydide92
#8WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/3/12 at 8:15pm

It has an incredibly dense orchestration, which I think is just amazing. Wicked isn't my favourite musical and I don't htink it's the best out there, but I do really enjoy it (I've seen it live 3 times and several bootlegs). Just to clarify something that you said, Elphaba is not actually referring to her death. It's a moment of dramatic irony when we know that they are celebrating her death, but she's thinking they're going to celebrate her greatness. I'm not sure if you want spoilers, or little things that not everyone who's seen it would know

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DEClarke
#9WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 9:29am

...SPOILER ALERT... SPOLIER ALERT... SPOLIER ALERT...

You never see Dorothy, just her silhouette.

Boq is the The Tin Man. Elphaba casts the spell to do this to save him after Nessa accidently shrinks his heart. Nessa resents Elphaba after this and completely turns against her, even though she already disliked her. This plot is invented for the musical, but reading the novel (BEFORE THE MUSICAL WAS MADE), I always got the impression that somehow Boq was The Tin Man.

Nessa is The Wicked Witch of the East. The shoes were hers to begin with.

Elphaba turns Fiyero into The Scarecrow to save him from being beaten to death.

In the musical, Elphaba doesnt die. In the book, its debatable.

Glindas original name is Galinda. But Dr. Dillamond never pronounced the fist a, so in honor of his passing (in the book he is killed by a Tik-Tok robot), she changes her name to Glinda.

In the musical, Dr. Dillamond is not killed. He just loses his ability to speak.

I think that sufficiently covers everything and ruins the show!

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wicked1492
#10WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 9:38am

Those sure are some interesting secrets that aren't blatantly exposed and explained visually and textually, DEClarke. Cool stories.


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madbrian
#11WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 9:46am

Some people claim that Wicked is somehow connected to the Wizard Of Oz. I don't see it.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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wicked1492
#12WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 9:51am

I was under the impression it was the Hulk prequel...pre sex change. That's part of the story right?


"These rabid fans...possess the acting talent to portray the hooker...Linda Eder..." -The New York Times

Emmaloucbway
#13WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 10:27am

WICKED musical secrets

The secret of WICKED is that it's about Kanye West.

Updated On: 6/4/12 at 10:27 AM

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#14WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 5:22pm

"This plot is invented for the musical, but reading the novel (BEFORE THE MUSICAL WAS MADE), I always got the impression that somehow Boq was The Tin Man."

You must have not read the novel all that closely, since there is a scene, after Dorothy's arrival, where Elphaba visits Boq after the death of Nessa.

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mybigsplash
#15WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 5:33pm

The green elixir is actually a glowstick.


Stephen: "Could you grab me a coffee?" Me: "Would you like that with all the colors of the wind?"

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bwayphreak234
#16WICKED musical secrets
Posted: 6/4/12 at 5:36pm

Elphaba is actually blue cuz she's an Avatar, but lighting makes her look green. Shhhhh don't tell anyone.


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