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Webber Fears Musicals Future

Kent
#0Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 10:18am

Oh please......This from the man who brought us "CATS."

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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jasonf
#1re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 10:28am

This was posted yesterday


Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.

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MrSweetNAwful
#2re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 10:31am

haha,
"Theatre impresario Andrew Lloyd Webber has criticised new musicals as uninteresting. The composer, whose hits have included Cats...said today's musicals were all about the 'feel-good factor.'"
what? Sir you wrote a non-narrative show about singing, dancing cats!!!


You're reminding me of people you hear at the movies asking questions every ten seconds, "Who is that? Why is that guy walking down the street? Who's that lady coming up to him? Uh-oh, why did that car go by? Why is it so dark in this theater?" - FindingNamo on strummergirl

"If artists were machines, then I'm just a different kind of machine...I'd probably be a toaster. Actually, I'd be a toaster oven because they're more versatile. And I like making grilled cheese" -Regina Spektor

"That's, like, twelve shows! ...Or seven." -Crazy SA Fangirl

"They say that just being relaxed is the most important thing [in acting]. I take that to another level, I think kinda like yawning and...like being partially asleep onstage is also good, but whatever." - Sherie Rene Scott

AvenueQPat
#3re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 10:32am

I don't think that people want Evita's right now with 25 minutes of bleakness at the end. From the last week

Avenue Q
Beauty and the Beast
Hairspray
Mamma Mia
Spamalot
Tarzan
Spelling Bee
Color Purple
Lion King
Phantom
Wicked

All had above 90% of the house filled, with what seems like an average ticket price. I think its obvious that people who want to go to musicals are generally going to Happy, Silly, Frivolous musicals - Dopey Showgirls in Gooey Gowns.

In another 5 years, we may see another switch again to more serious shows - but in the past week (no i didn't do any long term research - just playbill.com) its obvious that many tickets are selling to fun musicals.


You learn to play the straight man, the lines become routine - never really saying what you mean - but i know the scene will change :)

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kissmycookie
#4re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 11:29am

The bleakness from Evita is fine, given that it was well written.

The Woman in White may have had a happy ending.

But it was dull.

Perhaps Lord Lloyd-Webber would like to focus on his own musicals as of late?

jimnysf
#5re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 11:35am

"This was posted yesterday"

and I already made the same comment about "Cats" in that thread that I see here.


"I've lost everything! Luis, Marty, my baby with Chris, Chris himself, James. All I ever wanted was love." --Sheridan Crane "Passions" ------- "Housework is like bad sex. Every time I do it, I swear I'll never do it again til the next time company comes."--"Lulu" from "Can't Stop The Music" ----- "When the right doors didn't open for him, he went through the wrong ones" - "Sweet Bird of Youth" ------------ --------- "Passions" is uncancelled! See NBC.com for more info.

Jazzysuite82
#6re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 11:42am

Evita's actually not all THAT well written. Compositionally I think Webber didn't know how to write for a voice then. He wrote vocal parts very instrumentally, which makes it hard to sing. Also I've never been sure which way the audience is supposed to feel about her. It sort of makes her out to be this greedy opportunist.

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muscle23ftl
#7re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 12:08pm

https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?thread=906149#2378746


"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-

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ALWrules
#8re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 1:02pm

I agree that there is some hypocracy, considering this is the man who not only wrote Cats, but don't forget Starlight Express and By Jeeves, both of which are pretty frivolous musicals.
However, I think he is also trying to say that there is a problem in musical theater today because there are very few serious works out there. Many shows do focus on the "feel-good factor," because frankly it creates a better musical. Starlight ran for 17 years in London, and Cats for about the same time on both the West End and Bway. How long did The Beautiful Game or Aspects of Love last? But it is a shame that it is so hard to find engaging theater now, and instead we are filled with shows like the Drowsy chaperone and Mamma Mia.I think that he also pointing out how hard it is to run a profit in London. He owns a lot of these theaters, and apparently it is very hard to run a profit in London.
Though almost every composer has written frivolous musicals, I think they all would like to see at least some serious works out there.


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kissmycookie
#9re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 1:13pm

Wondering if he's seen 'The Light in the Piazza?' Or 'See What I Wanna See?'

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ErinDillyFan
#10re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 1:24pm

ALW is not talking about the state of the art or even Broadway.

He is talking about the financial state of the theaters in London specifically. If you read the article, he states only 3 shows in London are making money despite good attendance. A significant number of London's theaters need maintenance and repair that are not going to be able to be recouped with the current cost structures.

RentBoy86
#11re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 1:25pm

Neither of those shows sustain a very long life, compared to the other shows. Although I wouldn't say the Color Purple is a "feel-good" type show.

And I agree about Evita. I saw the tour last year and I wasn't sure how I was suppose to feel about her. Is she a slut that slept her way to the top? Is she good because she came from the slums? etc.

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StageManager2
#12re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 2:44pm

I think the beauty of EVITA is that it's non-committal; It does not take sides. In the end, it's left up to the audience's intepretation. Many people view (and have viewed) Eva Peron as either a patron saint of the poor or a power-hungry opportunist. There is no middle ground.


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
Updated On: 8/2/06 at 02:44 PM

SporkGoddess
#13re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 3:14pm

Right, you either hate Evita or love her. I usually hate her in the show. And most actresses play the role incredibly evil like LuPone and Covington, though are those who try to sweeten it up a la Madonna. Even with those evil Evitas though there are moments of tenderness; LuPone's Evita for instance made me tear up when she was dying.

I think the purpose of ALW's show though was to ultimately show that Eva wasn't the saint people make her out to be. That's why Che is there, to point out how the people actually feel as opposed to how Eva thinks they feel. Like the scene with her foundation; she thinks it's so helpful and wonderful, and Che tells the audience that, no, it really doesn't do that much.


Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!

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WickedGeek28
#14re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 3:18pm

The American Musical makes an interesting comment that audiences, post 9-11, look for light musicals as an escape. I think it's a logical explanation.


"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird

Jazzysuite82
#15re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 3:18pm

Which is kind of odd to me. Write a show about this icon who was really a slutty bitch. That's like the E! True Hollywood Musical.


Actually I find the musical contradicts itself in it's point of view. I think you have to have a point of view or you're confused. I always ask myself, what did they set out to do with this piece. I think the answer should always be clear when theatre is concerned. The character can be ambiguous yes, but the actual point of the piece isn't.
Updated On: 8/2/06 at 03:18 PM

bella cantato
#16re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 6:10pm

I was wondering exactly who he was going to blame for "Woman in White" doing so poorly-


"You know, a little orphan girl once told me that the sun would come out tomorrow. Her adopted father was a powerful billionaire, so I supressed the urge to laugh in her face. But now, by gum, I think she might have been on to something!" --Reefer Madness

Kent
#17re: Webber Fears Musicals Future
Posted: 8/2/06 at 7:33pm

"'This was posted yesterday'

and I already made the same comment about "Cats" in that thread that I see here."


Well get her.....


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