Widow Goldman Speaks.....- Page 2

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 12:10am

Maybe that's why she's called the Widow Goldman, so that comparisons to Nathan Lane aren't drawn.

[Kad]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 12:52am

Was the reason the Encores version used the London version of "Loveland" simply for its lessened technical requirements?

[nobodyhome]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 2:41am

"Was the reason the Encores version used the London version of 'Loveland' simply for its lessened technical requirements?"

Encores followed Roundabout's example in using the original version of the song except for the spoken lines. Yes, it was because the original spoken lines were reflected in the costumes with each showgirl costume illustrating a particular theme (music, flowers, heaven, hearts, etc.).

Updated On: 9/22/11 at 02:41 AM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 7:18am

How strange it must be for Sondheim to mourn the deaths of people he worked so closely with--like James Goldman, Leonard Bernstein and Jerome Robbins. And then, after their deaths, he has to stand by and watch less talented people make creative decisions about their contributions to his shows...while he's still alive to object but not to overrule.

I don't know which experience would have been more excruciating: Arthur on the West Side revival or Bobby Goldman on the various Follies before this one.

I'm very happy this is as good as it is--and not so very sad, as I've been in the past, that it isn't as good as the original. I wonder how he feels. Relieved, I imagine.

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 7:41am

I like "the Widow Goldman." It makes her sound like she stepped right out of Huck Finn.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 8:34am

Agreed, best. It needs the "The."

Like Garbo, The Widow Goldman speaks.

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 8:47am

CAMERON MACKINTOSH presents

MAUREEN LIPMAN as

"The Widow Goldman"

a new musical

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 8:53am

Of course, to make it really Huck Finn-like, she should be "the Widder Goldman."

[SondheimFan5]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 9:02am

"I don't know which experience would have been more excruciating: Arthur on the West Side revival or Bobby Goldman on the various Follies before this one."

Tough call. As Arthur says in his book, Steve really does not have that much passion for the shows for which he wrote only the lyrics, because he always wanted to be a songwriter, not a lyricist. But in Chapin's book, he says Sondheim's heart really was not with Follies because it was so vastly different from The Girls Upstairs....all that said, I would imagine West Side because they changed (translated) his lyrics. Sondheim also got his London production of FOllies (to tweak, though because of the NY audience) and the concert album (which was b*sterdised because of their director).

[Wilmingtom]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 12:30pm

I have heard from those directly involved in the Paper Mill production that it was Bobby who put the kebosh on it moving to Bway. So if her husband was in fact still alive, chances are he was infirm because she was definitely ruling the roost on that production from the jump. When I was at the Kennedy Center, I heard that she was not going to allow the current production to move because she thought it was too soon after the Roundabout. (Say what?!?) But ultimately Michael Kaiser badgered her into agreeing to the move.

[newintown]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 12:55pm

"Can we start calling her "Mrs. Goldman" or "Barbara Goldman"? Calling her "The Widow Goldman" feels very condescending to me...""

Or (just putting this out there) maybe you could refer to her as "Mrs. Goldman" and (like I said, just a suggestion) let others express themselves their own way?

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 1:07pm

I approve of The Widow Goldman.

Best regards,

The Dowager Maitner
(formerly, the Widow Maitner)

[egghumor]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 1:07pm

How about "Bobbytrap"?

Posted: 9/22/11 at 1:16pm

Do you ever realize you've become somewhat ridiculous?

[WOSQ]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 1:18pm

I have always referred to Marian Seldes as The Widow Kanin, so why not The Widow Goldman?

James Goldman died during preliminary discussions about a possible transfer to Broadway. The St. James was pencilled in fact. The Widow Goldman put the kebosh on the idea after his death when she became his literary executor.

Posted: 9/22/11 at 1:43pm

Kibosh! A great word, and one I am sure the Widow Goldman would approve of. Kebosh is a smaller, snack-size kebab. "Oh, Bubbe, I couldn't. I just had lunch. I'll just have a little kebosh to tide me over till your brisket is ready."

[egghumor]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 2:53pm

Do you ever realize you've become somewhat ridiculous?

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 3:06pm

You guys are adorable.

Posted: 9/22/11 at 3:10pm

Somewhat?

[SondheimFan5]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 3:14pm

Widda Gol'an

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 3:21pm

This is getting absurd.

Updated On: 9/23/11 at 03:21 PM

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 7:59pm

At least no one has called The Widow Goldman a "nasty cooze."

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/22/11 at 8:01pm

Day ain't over yet, Miss Penny.

[AC126748]

Posted: 9/23/11 at 8:45am

Or (just putting this out there) maybe you could refer to her as "Mrs. Goldman" and (like I said, just a suggestion) let others express themselves their own way?

BWW's very own arbiter of taste has spoken. What would we all do without you to put us in our place?

[newintown]

Posted: 9/23/11 at 9:58am

The wit! The wit! Absolutely crushing!