Will This Ruin "The Secret" For Me In TLITP.
Will This Ruin "The Secret" For Me In TLITP.
#0Will This Ruin "The Secret" For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:51pm
On Broadway.com on the review for Lights Cast Recording. Ken Mandelbaum writes....
"Mentally impaired daughter Clara has fine arias in "The Beauty Is" and the title number."
From listening to the Cast Recording, I can understand Clara has some issues. But is her being mentally impaired the big secret? Will knowing this ruin the "secret" for me when I see the show?
Oh, and if this isn't the complete secret, please dont ruin it for me, and post everything about it. Thanx!
#1re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:57pm
When you see the show, and if you listen to the recording, you can sense immaturity. All I'm saying.
Think about how in "Statues and Stories", she says "We're on vacation!" out of the blue.
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#2re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 1:58pm
Yep. I see what you're saying.
Damn it, now that I'm thinking all into it. I feel I am figuring out the secret. Damn - I really wanted some suprise when I saw the show.
#3re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:06pmIf you have listened to the recording, and you want to be as surprised as possible when seeing the show itself, it would be best to avoid "The Beauty Is (Reprise)". Track 14.
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#4re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:09pmYep. I already have listened to the Reprise of TBI. I try not looking into that much. But oh well - I guess I know the secret. But I still can't wait to see the show regardless.
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#5re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:12pm
No it doesn't ruin anything about the show, knowing that, I don't think. It's not like knowing the end of The Sixth Sense or anything.
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Updated On: 6/15/05 at 02:12 PM
#6re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:14pmRight. The show is magnificent anyway.
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#7re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:16pm
It's not like knowing the end of The Sixth Sense or anything.
One of those jack@sses (the frat boy one) on the Z100 morning show ruined the end of this for me. I was pissed. Serves me right for listening to that crap though.
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#8re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:19pmThe secret is really not the important feature of the show...what IS important is the heart of the show, the writing, design and performances. Knowing or not knowing the secret will in no way change the way you feel about the show when you see it.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
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#9re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:22pm
i dont think it matters either, the 'secret' is not the conclusion of the show, its just a fact in the show that develops the story and explains the state of Margaret & Clara's relationship.
#10re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:26pmI know that knowing the secret wont take away from the show. But i'm tired of knowing what is going to happen in every show I see.
#11re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:28pmThen why would you listen to the recording before you saw the show??
#12re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:28pmBecause the music is AMAZING!
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#13re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:30pmI have been perusing this thread with one eye open and one eye closed. I've avoided listening to the CD for just this reason! Knowing what is written here, I will listen to maybe the 1st half or so. I am planning to see it sometime in the next 6 weeks! With everyone's incredible enthusiasm and awe of this show, I really can't wait.
#14re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 2:34pmI, personally, don't think that listening to the CD will "give anything away". The music is beautiful - but you've simply got to see the staging to understand what's going on in a lot of the musical numbers. Listen all you want to - but please don't deny yourself the pleasure of being a part of the audience for a performance of Piazza - it's simply the best piece of musical theatre out there today.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#15re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:21pmI don't think the "secret" is the "twist" that everyone talks about. The "secret" is sorta common knowledge b/c of the film and because of every single review that you read. It's the twist that is the surprise...
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#16re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:22pm
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#17re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:36pmgreat, Namo... now all the kids are going to want The Crying Game turned into a musical...
#18re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:40pmOkay I don't think I know the "twist". GOOD.
#19re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 3:45pmOkay I don't think I know the "twist". GOOD.
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#20re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 4:09pmIt's not a plot oriented piece, it's a character study. You can know the whole frigging story and it will still have the same powerful effect.
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#21re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 4:29pmRosebud is the sled.
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#22re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 4:33pmis it really a secret? I thought everyone knew this?
#23re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 7:41pm
someone who knows - will you pm me with the twist and/or some kind of synopsis - I doubt I'll be able to ever see the show and I wanna know! 
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#24re: Will This Ruin 'The Secret' For Me In TLITP.
Posted: 6/15/05 at 8:38pmI'm surprised that a z100 dj has seen/heard of/listened to Piazza! I mean, WOW! I would never have expected that! I would think that Usher & Beyonce would consume their lives!
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