Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Yes, movie musicals are back but......
#1Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:05pm
...who wants to watch them? These times are hen I put them on to get people in a good mood. Well, I am going to my aunts house for christmas eve and she agreed to show Hairspray then my uncle went on a whole rant about how he wants christmas music and nobody wants them. Then I'm like "Tommarow is christmas, I'll show it at my house." y mom then starts bitching how nobody wants them. So the truth is yes theyr'e back but, most people still think of all musicals gay and noone wants to watch them. Which is really unfortunate. They'd rather watch Transformers.
He's a faker, and you've been taken in by his con. And in doing so, you are enabling him. He is doing more damage to aspergers than papa's words ever could. -Chane/Liverpool on me having asperger syndrome.
Updated On: 12/24/07 at 02:05 PM
#2re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:08pmWhat the hell are you trying to say?
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#2re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:15pmThat unfortuannly movie musicals are always going to be hated. I love them but too many kids would rather watch Harry Potter and go out and by the new 50 cent cd.
He's a faker, and you've been taken in by his con. And in doing so, you are enabling him. He is doing more damage to aspergers than papa's words ever could. -Chane/Liverpool on me having asperger syndrome.
#3re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:17pm
Hm, and that's why a few of the recent movie-musicals have grossed over 100 million dollars?
"I mean, sitting side by side with another man watching Patti LuPone play Rose in GYPSY on Broadway is essentially the equivalent of having hardcore sex." -Wanna Be A Foster.
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Updated On: 12/24/07 at 02:17 PM
Parks
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/5/04
#4re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:21pm...1 million dollars would be considered a HUGE flop for a major Hollywood film.
"If it walks like a Parks, if it wobbles like a Parks, then it's definitely fat and nobody loves it." --MA
#5re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:22pmI don't think they're hated at all. Most have done well at the box office and in dvd sales. There are some people who just don't enjoy the genre, but that can be said about a lot of types of films.
"Just remembering you've had an 'and' when you're back to 'or'
Makes the or mean more, than it did before..."
#6re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:22pmThe Cable Guy made more then that.
He's a faker, and you've been taken in by his con. And in doing so, you are enabling him. He is doing more damage to aspergers than papa's words ever could. -Chane/Liverpool on me having asperger syndrome.
#7re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:25pmWhy doesn't someone grab the statistics? Anyhow, I don't think they're universally hated.
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zooxanthellae
Broadway Star Joined: 6/2/07
#8re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:31pm
170 million for chicago
100+ million for Hairspray
I wouldn't exactly call those unsuccessful... I don't think they're hated, I find that movie musicals are much better experienced in the theatre than at home.
#9re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:32pm
One million is waaay off. Sweeney made nine million just this weekend. Hairspray made something like 30 million its first weekend.
Musicals aren't hated. They're just not the rage at Christmas gatherings where people are trying to socialize and enjoy the holiday. My guess is that your family would likely object just as much to "showing" any other random, non-Christmas movie at a holiday family gathering.
Art has a double face, of expression and illusion.
#10re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:33pm
Thanks zooxanthellae!
"Just remembering you've had an 'and' when you're back to 'or'
Makes the or mean more, than it did before..."
#11re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:38pmI hate THE CABLE GUY.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#12re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:44pm
The answer is simple.
Michael Bay needs to team up with Andrew Lloyd Webber to create:
Transformers-The Rock Opera.
"I am the Phantom of the Opera! I'm the gayest supervillian ever! OoooOOOooooOOOoooh...Beware of my scented candles...OoooOOOooooh...Scented!"
#13re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:46pmHahaha
"Just remembering you've had an 'and' when you're back to 'or'
Makes the or mean more, than it did before..."
jake6970
Broadway Star Joined: 9/21/07
#14re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:53pmYeah...I mean I don't care whether it's Hairspray or Transformers...it's a little annoying to have someone pushing to put on a move when everyone is trying to spend time together at Christmas.
#15re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 2:56pm
Make a movie like Hairspray, Dreamgirls or Chicago, or even High School Musical, and people will go.
It isn't that the entire genre has returned, and the general public is ready to swallow all musicals.
They need to have what any other movie that is popular today needs to have:
Big established stars or young cute unknowns
A fun or (semi) clever, fast-paced story
Big stars
Big young stars
A story that's easy to understand and follow
Jokes
Lots of energy
More big sexy stars
And because it's a musical... Catchy, fun, "cool" tunes. And impressive singing and dancing.
The target audience still needs to be 18-35. Just like it does for any other movie.
Don't make the audience think too hard. Don't challenge them with far-fetched symbolic "cinematic concepts." Don't slow down the plot for ANY song, EVER. Don't offend them with too much (gay) camp, but make sure they laugh enough.
Don't ask them to remember anything from the movie for longer than two minutes.
Make sure everyone in it is VERY appealing.
Follow these (not-so-simple) rules, don't break any of them, and you too can have a musical hit.
If you're planning a movie musical that doesn't fit into these handy molds, then good luck. You're looking at a "niche" audience at best. Or an "art film." Or a big giant flop, at worst.
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#16re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:05pm
So three people in your family are representative of everybody?
Sorry, but I'd rather watch the box office numbers for evidence than listen to your projections based on what your mother says.
#17re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:08pmMy boss is retiring this week. She saw my netflix envelope on my desk and told me she wants to join. I showed her how to get around the site and how to sign up. The 1st movie she ordered was "Hairspray" the latest on with Travolta. And it seems Travolta is the reason she wants to see it.
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#18re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:09pmIs that any different than some people wanting to see a musical just because Patti LuPone or Raul Esparza is in it though? I think if she didn't wanna watch a musical, she wouldn't, regardless of who was in it.
"Just remembering you've had an 'and' when you're back to 'or'
Makes the or mean more, than it did before..."
#19re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:15pmPerhaps, SHOCK, they are being produced for the sake of ART! God forbid!
#20re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:19pm
I think if she didn't wanna watch a musical, she wouldn't, regardless of who was in it.
Not necessarily. There are people who will watch something they wouldn't normally be into just to see a certain performance. THAT is what's the same as people seeing a musical just because someone is in it. Think of all the people who probably wouldn't normally go see a Broadway show who will go see Spamalot because Clay Aiken is in it. If there are people within that who don't like musicals, it comes down to seeing what wins out: hatred for musicals or love for the star.
#21re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:21pm
She is not a musical movie person. She wants to see Travolta in a dress.
Just give the world Love. - S. Wonder
Updated On: 12/24/07 at 03:21 PM
#22re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:21pmluvtheemcee: Yeah I see what you mean. I guess I think 'movie musicals will always be hated' is a bit strong.
"Just remembering you've had an 'and' when you're back to 'or'
Makes the or mean more, than it did before..."
#23re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:24pmA bit strong and kind of a silly thing to say. Yes, there will probably always be people who don't like musicals -- but that the general public will NEVER be interested? Look at what best12bars said; it has to do with what's being filmed and how these films are being made, not just that these ARE musicals. Movie musicals have a certain caché that they need to overcome. And maybe Hollywood is finally learning how to do that correctly.
#24re: Yes, movie musicals are back but......
Posted: 12/24/07 at 3:26pmI think Sweeney is a very positive step forward, just because it happened to make a film ADAPTATION as opposed to filming a stage-like musical movie.
"Just remembering you've had an 'and' when you're back to 'or'
Makes the or mean more, than it did before..."
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