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actos actually watch there bootleg shows?

Mattbrain
#25actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/13/11 at 10:29am

Jackie Hoffman actually showed her newly acquired copy of the Hairspray bootleg on her Addams Family vlog.


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#26actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/13/11 at 10:59am

"Many boots I've seen appear to be shot from the house camera...would that be a similar situation, too?"

If the quality is amazing, that is to say perfectly framed shot of the stage, completely steady, no "cover ups," then yes, it is most likely made and leaked by somebody connected to the production.

As for the "older bootlegs are praised, new ones are condemned as illegal" argument. Personally, I seem to notice that the older ones, such as the Follies footage is passed around quite freely, you can obtain it easily without any mention of a trade or payment. This does not seem to be the case with newer bootlegs (though I could be wrong, as I'm not really involved in that circle). That, for me, is where I bristle at the idea of bootlegs, when I see somebody trying to make a profit off of them.

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#27actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/13/11 at 11:49am

I had an actor ask me for a bootleg of a concert she was in. I only found the audio, but she was very thankful!


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sally1112
#28actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/13/11 at 7:31pm

All of the people that I know who have been on Broadway own bootlegs of not only all of the shows that they have appeared in, but also copies of other shows that they like.

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darreyl102
#29actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/14/11 at 12:48am

LOL- I sent her that!!


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Overkill
#30actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/14/11 at 3:48am

I've given actors bootlegs and they were always appreciative. Especially one particularly famous person. actos actually watch there bootleg shows?

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morosco
#31actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/14/11 at 11:36am

It appears that even broadwayworld.com has come to embrace bootlegs. Their "Flash Friday" series is loaded with them. Here's an example.
FLASH FRIDAY The Legend of Jonathan Larson

broadwayguy2
#32actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/14/11 at 1:29pm

Oh yes, there is a decided difference between "old school" Broadway bootleggers and some newer ones.

What REALLY is a system of remembering and discovering these flash in the pan events that last for 2 hours and then live only in our memories has, pardon the pun, been high-jacked by some opportunistic youth who saw the potential for profit and, to me, that part just feels sleazy.

I love having memories of specific events and performers - particularly ones that I was in the audience for - and they sit there on my shelf between my souvenir programs and my playbills.. where they *should* be. I've received some as gifts and traded others, but paying for anything more than the cost of a blank DVD is a no-go for me. When you charge a pretty penny, you are profiting from the work of others, not sharing in the joy and memories and community.

To be fair, it's hard to completely blame the younger kids and call them greedy (the ones who charge like that, frankly, are simply greedy little scum and need to be put in their place), when we live in a modern society that tells you that EVERYTHING is business. "You are your brand." "Network 24/7, always have business card handy." "Directly state your professional goals when in social settings." "Use your social media pages. Not only do companies check your pages, but they can see how business-minded you are.." EVERYTHING is a business opportunity nowadays.


EDIT TO ADD:

The *truly* vile ones are the bootleggers who insist on placing their watermark on everything and claiming' ownership. Everyone has to know (particularly the cast) that THEY made made that recording. They want credit. They want glory.. and don't even get me started on the ones who say "this recording copyright by me, you must not re-trade, sell or share with anyone." REALLY?!?
Updated On: 8/14/11 at 01:29 PM

Dollypop
#33actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/14/11 at 7:26pm

A while back I was known for being smitten with a Broadway actor who has gone on to a film career. I was, and am, friendly with the guy. When I mentioned that various people had sent me bootlegs of not only his shows but of promos he did for touring companies, he asked if I could copy them for him. As I had never even viewed the tapes (I'm just not into that sort of thing), I sent him the originals and he was very grateful for them.


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crewdude
#34actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/15/11 at 12:10pm

I like how everyone is discussing the illegal activity of pirating a recording of a Broadway show as if it's all just a nice thing that people do to share with the actors in the show.

eBay and other sources are selling these illegal recordings. These recordings are a dual edged sword. Sure they are a nice memory of a live performance. However, they are being sold at the same time that a show is running. They are allowing people to see a show without actually paying the performers of the show itself.

I've heard your arguments before - not everyone can afford a ticket/not everyone is creating a business of selling these illegal recordings/actors like it when I give them a copy/ blah blah blah and every other false justification you tell yourself when you participate in this illegal activity.

Broadway producers don't want to deal with the issue. They are afraid that if they do they will draw attention to it and more people will do it. They also think that this illegal activity at least creates interest in the show. But I flash back on the ads that Hollywood put out a few years ago to try to cut down on lawbreakers making copies of movies. They ran ads asking people if they would steal a necklace/steal a car because that is what you are doing when you break the law and make or make and sell an illegal recording of a show.

There. Now the cranky old guy will shut up and let you people go back to being happy lawbreakers.

ahhrealmonsters
#35actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/15/11 at 1:19pm

Many do, but some are more vocal about it than others. There are actors who are open about watching, but there are some who, when wanting them, only ask in private. There are also actors who publicly reprimand them, but have a collection.

Moneyspider
#36actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/15/11 at 1:36pm

Having seen a camera set up as I headed to my seat some years back for Forbidden Broadway, I had to wonder but I think the general understanding is that as long as it's not disruptive or for monetary profit... I equate it with the food policy at Disneyland. They search your bags, the loudspeaker mentions the picnic area outside the park but inside you can tell it's a laissez faire system , with plenty of Vons bags and rolling coolers. it's the sort of calculation not to look like penny-pinchers. It's the sane reason anime has moved from DVD sales to advertiser-supported streaming content but I don't envy Broadway producers. If they film shows officially and sell them, even after closing, a precedent is being set that people may just wait for the recording. I was on the fence about seeing Legally Blonde, but once I found I could TiVo it I went with that. still, it came down to me wanting to see other shows live more.

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#37actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/15/11 at 2:09pm

I'm not really sure where I fall in all this, to be honest. It was a complete accident when I stumbled across some boots of the Essen production Phantom on youtube, and from there I tumbled headlong into my love for German musical theater. Because of it, I've worked to become fluent in the language, and I've made several overseas trips to patronize their stages. (Tourism money, yay!) Less a case of "watch the bootleg instead of go to the theater" and more a case of "go to the theater because I fell in love via bootleg". I like to think of it as a positive cycle of reinforcement.

I would say there is a difference between recorded theater and a bootlegged movie, simply because theater is entirely location-specific. A movie, though, can be transported anywhere and is always the same. There's no reason to boot a movie other than being too cheap to pay for it. A live show, though: I could see a show live twelve times, and still wish I had a recorded video of it, for when the cast changes / after the show closes / when the tour moves on, etc.

That being said, I love when shows release professionally filmed DVDs, and keep those right along with my cast recordings, for much revisiting, and for sharing with family/friends (particularly in the case of foreign musicals. The ability to add my own subtitles and render it understandable to English speakers is a big plus). I treat it much the same as how the 04 Phantom film, for all its flaws, led to a group of my friends heading to BWay to "see it for real". Similarly, I am excited beyond words for Rebecca... because I've been watching pieces of the Vienna production on Youtube for years, wishing/hoping/praying it would come.

Without the existence of boots, I'd be far, far less interested in theater than I am today... and would have spent far, far less money on it!

None of which has anything to do with actors watching their boots. actos actually watch there bootleg shows? Though I'll say it goes both ways... I've had actors recommend various boots of different productions at SDs, in interviews, in casual conversation, and so forth. Not in a "let me show off" way, but in a "you might like this if you get the chance to see it" way.

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showinoff
#38actos actually watch there bootleg shows?
Posted: 8/15/11 at 3:00pm

you would be surprised at how many actors, producers and writers actually pay for them to be made.


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