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rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'

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theaterkid1015
#25re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/1/09 at 9:38pm

And, don't forget LA CAGE AUX FOLLES. It's already generated a lot of positive buzz.


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#26re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/1/09 at 9:47pm

I think, and I'm not saying this because I didn't love it, that FINIAN'S will be forgotten by time the Tonys come around. It'll surely be nominated after the raves it got but I don't see it posing a major threat to actually take home the prize. Especially with tried-and-true productions of NIGHT MUSIC, LA CAGE, and RAGTIME. All three got fantastic reviews in their runs prior to New York and I don't see why those reviews wouldn't repeat themselves in New York. But you never know.

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#27re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/1/09 at 9:48pm

I wouldn't be surprised if RAINBOW is closed by the time the Tonys come around. I mean you would expect it to run with those reviews, but I dunno...

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#28re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/1/09 at 9:52pm

Why is everyone underestimating NIGHT MUSIC? Hopefully it will get more buzz around here once it actually starts.

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Eris0303
#29re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/1/09 at 10:06pm

I was just talking about the shows that have been open and viewed by reviewer and/or posters here. I'm not discounting the other shows that haven't opened yet. But they haven't opened yet and have yet to be seen.


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#30re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/1/09 at 10:52pm

I just saw Ragtime tonight and have to say I thoroughly agree with rOcKS... it's a stellar, flawless production. An enrapturing night at the theatre.


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givesmevoice
#31re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/2/09 at 2:05am

I was under the impression that there was some lukewarm reception to the London production of A Little Night Music. Or am I misremembering?


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#32re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/2/09 at 2:30am

Here are 3 of what I guess are the biggest reviews from the London production.

This critic took back his negative review that he gave the production at the Menier. This is similar to when Brantley took back his negative review to LuPone's Gypsy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturecritics/charlesspencer/5126177/A-Little-Night-Music-at-the-Garrick-Theatre-review.html

4 out of 5 stars
http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2009/apr/08/little-night-music-garrick-review

4 out of 5 stars
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/stage/theatre/article6060214.ece

The consensus seems that it came very close to greatness, and hopefully Nunn reaches it with the Broadway production.

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#33re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/2/09 at 4:25pm

"Or am I misremembering?"

Confirmed.

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#34re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/3/09 at 2:08pm

I'd rather participate in a positive thread about the show. I just scored great seats for Saturday the 14th using the Playbill.com discount.


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#35re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/3/09 at 3:14pm

What's with all the negativity for FINIAN?

WickedRocks is leading the march on my beloved RAINBOW. Shameful! Hey Rocks - you've had it out for that show since it opened, it seems. Perhaps you're just not old enough to appreciate how "old fasioned" it is.

And I'm being sincere with that remark, not snarky.


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#36re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/3/09 at 6:11pm

With regard to the London reviews of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC, I have to agree with Charles Spencer of the Telegraph when he says, "...it has slightly show-offy lyrical cleverness...in a self-consciously tasteful show...". Of course he then goes on to praise the production. I am probably a minority of one on this Board, but I find those quoted reservations about A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC applicable to most of Sondheim's later shows.


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Updated On: 11/3/09 at 06:11 PM

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#37re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/13/09 at 12:18am

Went back tonight; sat in Row H of the Mezzanine, great view. The show is so tight now. Noticed a few minor changes here and there. It's such a powerful experience. See it!

#38re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/13/09 at 5:36am

"(SPOILERS) My biggest problem with the book is the abrupt and complete transformation that Tateh has from poor immigrant to wealthy film director. Yes, we get glimmers of the prospects ahead of him but when he is shown as the director during the Atlantic City number, it just seems very abrupt. To me, what happened in between is a bit too unexplained. That's my biggest issue with it."

I've heard this complaint before, so you're not alone, but I always felt that was kinda part of the point--ya know? Like we're meant to be abruptly surprised when we see him--in particular with the increased tragedy of the major stories around him, having a happy surprise like this is a nice contrast.

There have been a couple of cuts to the script, right? The Houdini dream, etc?

Gypsy said:
"With regard to the London reviews of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC, I have to agree with Charles Spencer of the Telegraph when he says, "...it has slightly show-offy lyrical cleverness...in a self-consciously tasteful show...". Of course he then goes on to praise the production. I am probably a minority of one on this Board, but I find those quoted reservations about A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC applicable to most of Sondheim's later shows. "

Well harumph :P I sorta see your point, but I gotta argue it--most of the show-offy lyrics in Night Music are totally fitting--it's that kinda show IMHO where incredibly witty lyrics are part of the evening (especially when sung by an over analytical lawyer or the other characters). You say that's a prob for you with most later SOndheim work--umm is Night Music usually categorized as later Sondheim? it wouldn't be by me.

I am not even sure what the self consciously tasteful criticism means (or how it would be applied to shows like Assassins or Sweeney)

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#39re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/13/09 at 12:15pm

I think the question now is what revival gets shut out come the Tony nominations?? It really comes down to how "Promises, Promises" turns out. If it's great, then the competition just got more crowded. If it's good or average, they might not get a nomination leaving the four shows to be nominated as: Ragtime, Finian's, La Cage & Night Music.


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#40re: rOcKS @ 'Ragtime'
Posted: 11/13/09 at 2:59pm

I think it might be FINIAN'S. I don't know if it will last 'til the Tonys and if it does, it just might be forgotten because it opened so early in the season. It did get great reviews though...

It'll be interesting to see what happens with PROMISES. If PROMISES gets ripped to shreds, it'll obviously be the one left out but if it gets raves, FINIAN'S will be shut out, in my opinion.


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