songs without any relevance to the musical
songs without any relevance to the musical
Joined: 12/31/69
#1songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 4:49pm
what are some songs that you think are COMPLETELY irelevant to some musiclas. for me its:
sentimental man- wicked
dancing through life- wicked
finland- spamalot
little old ladys land- producers
masquerade- phantom
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#2re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 4:54pm"Dancing Through Life" is there to repeat over and over and over and over that Fiyero is "brainless."
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#2re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 4:55pm
I do there are some songs that could be excised from various shows, but all the songs mentioned above are relevant.
So much plot is established in both Dancing Through Life and Masquerade, and in the case of DTL character development.
Finland & Little Old Ladies are just there for a comedy, but since both those shows are meant to be broad comedies that is their point. Sentimental Man is extraneous, but it's so short I let it slide.
....but the world goes 'round
#3re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 4:55pmThe Tango in Grand Hotel.
I killed the boss, you don't think they're gonna fire me over a thing like that!!!!
#4re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 4:55pm
both of those songs from Wicked are for character exposition. They are not that strong, but they still serve a purpose.
none of the songs are relevant in Smamalot, really
Little old lady land is a comic number that explains how Bialy gets his money
Masquerade catches us up on the time span between acts. it tells us about the new chandelier. it has Christine and Raul talking about thier hidden relationship
all of these songs are relevant to the text, with the exception of finland, but spamalot is not a relevant musical.
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AnythingCanHappen
Featured Actor Joined: 11/5/06
#5re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 4:55pm
sentimental man sets up the wizard's character
dancing through life sets up the beginning of elphie/glinda/fiyero's relationships, not to mention others.
finland - thats the total point.
never seen producers....
masquerade - the song is a celebration of the new opera star and new chandelier... etc.
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fairygodmother
Featured Actor Joined: 4/30/06
#6re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 5:15pm
now this might be controversial, cos its a classic - but how about The Rhythm of Life? i always thought that felt like a huge excuse to show off a new song that he knew would be a hit, not for its use to the plot or characters!
also there are a lot of older shows that have this - the shoehorning of hit parade material into a flimsy plot - but i didn't think that's what the original post really meant
#7re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 5:16pm
Who's Got The Pain?-DAMN YANKEES
Steam Heat-PAJAMA GAME
Rhythm of Life-SWEET CHARITY
Maybe it's just Fosse musicals...
Julian2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/10/06
#8re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 6:04pm
"i always thought that felt like a huge excuse to show off a new song that he knew would be a hit, not for its use to the plot or characters!"
I haven't seen the show, so I can't speak for how it helps or dosen't, but I do know that number was an out-of-town replacement, so to my knowledge, its not a vanity sequence.
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#9re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 6:18pm
"too darn hot"~kiss me kate...great song/dance number...but relevant? not a bit.
also "one by one" ~the lion king...cool song though
Hank
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/03
#10re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 7:40pmSteam Heat (Pajama Game), it just stands out, but I love it just the same.
C is for Company
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/16/05
#11re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 7:47pmCan I add "Hominy Grits"? I mean it really has no significance and is there for the laughs.
#12re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 7:50pmTURKEY LURKY TIME!
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NickHyper
Understudy Joined: 7/20/05
#13re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 7:53pmI never found any major reason for "Rock And Roll Party Queen" from Grease. If I'm wrong please let me know.
Little_Mary_Sunshine
Swing Joined: 9/9/06
#14re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:00pm
I have to second "Steam Heat" and "Turkey Lurkey Time"
And I have to add "Only in New York" and "Long as I'm Here with You" from Millie. Even after I saw the show I didn't understand the point of Muzzy's songs other than to have a song at that point.
#15re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:01pmI know that lots of people are going to kill me for this, but I think that “Memory” from Cats is mildly out of place. I like the song, but it feels like it should be in a different musical. Like, a musical with an actual PLOT. Perhaps.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
gumbo2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/21/05
#17re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:08pmVery Soft Shoes - Once Upon A Mattress. Pointless song for a pretty pointless character.
#18re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:15pmbroadwayismylife, the lyrics go "tits and ass" not "ass and tits". The name of the song is called "Dance: Ten; Looks: Three" and it has the releveance of how Val didn't have "tits" until she got the "operation". The dialogue before it is her talking how she's been turned down all of her life, for various reasons, and then she realized when she "swipes her dance card after an audition", she realizes they like her dance (10) but her looks not so much (3), and then the song comes in.
jonartdesigns
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/04
#19re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:39pmShipoopi comes immediately to mind
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ThankstoPhantom
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/05
#20re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:45pmWhatever Muzzy's first song is called in "Thoroughly Modern Millie."
How to properly use its/it's:
Its is the possessive. It's is the contraction for it is...
BDrischBDemented
Broadway Star Joined: 11/13/05
#21re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 8:59pm
"Motherhood" in Hello, Dolly!
"Oom-Pah-Pah" in Oliver!
"Your lyrics lack subtlety! You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!"
#22re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 9:01pmWow. I consider a lot of these songs listed to be extremely relevant if not to the plot at least to the musical that they are in... and I get a nice laugh out of wicked fans confusing relevancy with boredom.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#23re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 9:06pmI'm surprised no one has mentioned My Strongest Suit from Aida. I suppose it has a bit of significance to Amneris's character arc, but the point that is made in the song is made at multiple points throughout the show via dialogue.
#24re: songs without any relevance to the musical
Posted: 2/22/07 at 9:12pm"Only in New York" is just to introduce Muzzy's character and to show that she is happy to be back home in NY. (Since Millie and Jimmy are going to Muzzy's welcome home party.) And "Long as I'm Here with You" is the song that Muzzy is performing at Cafe Society when Jimmy and Millie go see her. ..it makes sense to me..
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