As he said, he was there to kill black people. So this is obviously a hate crime, but like other southern states who didn't want specific "hate crime" laws because they benefited the homos, SC doesn't have provisions for him to be tried with a hate crime.
This shatters my heart and makes me so angry.
Addy, I am with you. I am seething right now. The ass of a father needs to be tried as well for buying him the gun in the first place.
You're right Taz I was guessing he had that motive. Just hate seeing pictures.
This guy needs to never see the light of day again.
He's a freaking psychopath.
What I can't get my head around is how he could sit with these people and I'm sure made to feel welcome and still do it. I....I just can't.
I've been venting on social media all day about this, desperately trying to convince gun owners to see things differently, as the story starts filtering in it just gets worse.
The whole thing is disturbing. Shocked that I haven't seen people posting about the potential of this not happening if people at the church were also armed. So sick.
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Because I always focus on the wrong thing, I'm really wondering if the extra N at the end of his name changes the pronunciation. I keep reading it Dill Ann.
"What I can't get my head around is how he could sit with these people and I'm sure made to feel welcome and still do it. I....I just can't."
Perhaps, I'm jaded now. But, nothing surprises me any longer about human depravity. I've just seen too much really bad shaite happen to good people. It will take some time for the community to recover. That church holds a special place in Charleston history. It's once more the source of considerable anguish. I admire those church-goers who somehow hold onto their Christian faith after this latest incident. They have something that I lack.
Aaaand there it is: Fox News assures us that it wasn't a white-on-black racist attack. It was an anti-Christian attack.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/fox-news-charleston-shooting_n_7614126.html
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They're apparently all in with that. Really really invested in labeling it an "attack on faith." Wait til they find out the minister supported progressive causes.
"Did He Bring It On His Parish?"
Meanwhile in real life one of his friends said he had been talking about segregation and his plan was to start a race war by doing this and then killing himself.
<i>Wait til they find out the minister supported progressive causes.</i>
I don't know about other issues, but Clementa Pinckney did vote for a vicious anti-gay constitutional amendment as a South Carolina State Senator. This, of course, does not mean he deserved to die. It does mean he was not a particularly good person.
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Thanks for the correction.
"I don't know about other issues, but Clementa Pinckney did vote for a vicious anti-gay constitutional amendment as a South Carolina State Senator. This, of course, does not mean he deserved to die. It does mean he was not a particularly good person."
Or he was simply a proxy for his constituents. Perhaps, his political views in part were not particularly appealing to a number of bww posters, but he'll likely be replaced in a special runoff election by someone of the same ideological ilk. I'm not going to tap into regional stereotypes but the man did not represent NY's 10th Congressional District.
That Fox and Friends clip is shockingly brain dead, even by Fox and Friends standards, which are pretty much as low as standards go. Steve Doocy is a...never mind.
And how about the brain-dead parents? Usually I have compassion for the parents. In this case I want them publicly tarred and feathered. They noticed their emotionally disturbed son was having white supremacist delusions, then the father gives their emotionally disturbed son a GUN for his birthday?
Happy birthday, Mom and Dad. These murders--and the trauma they cause the nation--are on YOUR heads.
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Those patches on their kid's coat weren't "anti-faith" symbols.
"Those patches on their kid's coat weren't "anti-faith" symbols. "
Exactly, it's becaue it was a Black congregation of church goers that he targeted it. It's an iconic symbol in the area, actually.
I'm tired hearing, "guns don't kill , people do." Well then don't put f****g guns in the hands of those people.
Don't get what mental issues he had, it's reprehensible that his dad bought him a gun.
"Those patches on their kid's coat weren't "anti-faith" symbols. "
Exactly, it's becaue it was a Black congregation of church goers that he targeted it. It's an iconic symbol in the area, actually.
I'm tired hearing, "guns don't kill , people do." Well then don't put f****g guns in the hands of those people.
Don't get what mental issues he had, it's that his dad bought him a gun.ThoughtfullyClassyAlpaca
"Those patches on their kid's coat weren't "anti-faith" symbols. "
Exactly, it's becaue it was a Black congregation of church goers that he targeted it. That particular church is an iconic symbol in the area, actually.
I'm tired hearing, "guns don't kill , people do." Well then don't put f****g guns in the hands of those people.
Don't get what mental issues he had, it's that his dad bought him a gun which makes me believe it's hereditary.
I have been sick about this all day. And angry. And pissed. And disgusted. Why was this kid allowed to have a gun?
And, what kind of freaking coward shoots up a house of worship? What, the day care center was closed?
The attempt to treat this as anything other than a racially motivated hate crime is contortions worthy of Side Show.
And, for the record, what the shooter said today sounded pretty much like an extension of what Trump said yesterday. Maybe this is the Trump voting block - cowardly, bigoted mentally ill white men.
It's on all the gun huggers heads PJ. Those are the people who can change our society, we have to reason with them.
It's very strange. In the next few days if we took a poll 90% of the people would be for tougher gun restrictions, yet... Sad!
" I admire those church-goers who somehow hold onto their Christian faith after this latest incident. They have something that I lack."
Me too.
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