I love that the.nytimes has no more real power. From lauding over honeymoon in Vegas to loving disaster to now this is just hilarious. I'm sure there are many others that I am forgetting.
The nytimes used to be the thing that would kill or save a show. It would be the paper that everyone would race to see to see if their show would survive. Now it makes no difference what the times says. Their days of power are over and it's wonderful to watch the demise happen.
Cupid Boy2 said: "Dancingthrulife2 said: "Though I love Bright Stars, I can't ignore the fact that the "critic's pick" comes from the same person who gives the same accolade to Disaster!."
In the other thread, you stated that you hoped it didn't get "slayed" by the critics. The Times gave it a wonderful review. What did you want?
I was hoping that it wouldn't get trashed, so it's good to hear some good reviews. But I honestly don't think it's a "critic's pick" level show. Or at least "critic's pick" should at least be a little more sophisticated than what Bright Star is. I won't deny that I had a wonderful and uplifting time with Bright Stars, but I definitely disagree with Isherwood's statement that the premise of theatre is to entertain. Art as I understand it is an expression and device for communication. Of course it's my personal opinions and anyone is entitled to theirs.
Wow, I was not expecting such harsh reviews; Bright Star deserve to be treated like the next Lennon or Brooklyn or Dr Z. Sure there were some book problems, but musicals that were far worse this season (Amazing Grace, Disaster and even Allegiance- which to be far was just worse and not far worse) got passes from most critics while Bright Star took a drubbing. Guess I better get back to the Cort a few more times before this one closes up shop.
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Dancingthrulife2 said: "I was hoping that it wouldn't get trashed, so it's good to hear some good reviews. But I honestly don't think it's a "critic's pick" level show. Or at least "critic's pick" should at least be a little more sophisticated than what Bright Star is. I won't deny that I had a wonderful and uplifting time with Bright Stars, but I definitely disagree with Isherwood's statement that the premise of theatre is to entertain. Art as I understand it is an expression and device for communication. Of course it's my personal opinions and anyone is entitled to theirs."
There can be a lot of beauty in simplicity, and a lack of "sophistication" does not equate to a lack of craftsmanship.
WhizzerMarvin said: "Wow, I was not expecting such harsh reviews; Bright Star deserve to be treated like the next Lennon or Brooklyn or Dr Z. Sure there were some book problems, but musicals that were far worse this season (Amazing Grace, Disaster and even Allegiance- which to be far was just worse and not far worse) got passes from most critics while Bright Star took a drubbing. Guess I better get back to the Cort a few more times before this one closes up shop.
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I'm confused. You're saying Bright Star deserves to be treated as the next Brooklyn or Dr. Z (which suffered from short-lived and quite sad runs) but you were not expecting such harsh reviews? I'm assuming a typo but I'm just making sure I'm deliriously reading this wrong.
^i think whizzer was saying bright star deserved reviews similar to Dr. Z and Brooklyn, but instead it got reviews worse than amazing grace, allegiance and disaster. Even though they were(are) far worse than bright star.
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Also, does Isherwood ever not name anything a Critics' Pick anymore? This isn't to say Bright Star doesn't deserve this honor, but from Isherwood these days, it seems to hold little meaning to me.
Why not give it a pick if he liked the show? Does there have to be a limit? His review made my evening.
I think the key word for this musical is simplicity. It is evident that some critics were not into the country/bluegrass aspect of the show and simple storytelling, so they were not going to like it right off the bat. The word hokum used showed that and what is wrong with a sappy happy ending? I was one of those who had tears in their eyes at the end. I do hope to see it again and cannot wait for the recording. JMO
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uncageg said: "Was afraid of these reviews. A few are good so far. One suggest yo just get the So Familiar cd. A number of the songs on thecd are in the show.
The cast album has already been recorded. It will be released 4/29 digitally and 5/27 physical cd.
tazber said: "uncageg said: "Was afraid of these reviews. A few are good so far. One suggest yo just get the So Familiar cd. A number of the songs on thecd are in the show.
The cast album has already been recorded. It will be released 4/29 digitally and 5/27 physical cd.
Let's not underestimate a NY Times review either. No, it can't close a show overnight with a bad notice the way it used to, but it still has a large theatre readership and can influence box office more than most reviews.
Will a good review in the Times help a show? Will a bad one hurt? Yes, absolutely. Will it make or break a show? No.
But this message board is full of posters prone to extremes, and can't think in degrees of effectiveness. It's all or nothing here.
The Times my not be all-powerful, but it is still relevant. It's the extreme comments here that aren't.
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The nytimes doesn't nearly have the power it used to. Mainly because there are so many other reviews now and that it's picks are often pretty bad. Again I go back to moving honeymoon in Vegas in from papermill and it losing its entire investment.
Am I not mistaken in the nytimes giving wicked a tepid to bad review? Yes it has readership but word of mouth is everything now
.reviews either embolden an already well selling show or hurt an already poor selling show. Other than that it's just fodder for message boards.