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#51Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/25/17 at 3:14pm

"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country."

Again, this is categorically a lie- the net immigration from Mexico is at zero. There is no massive flow of anyone crossing the border from Mexico. The wall is a stupid symbol that will do nothing but waste money. There is no justifiable reason for it based in fact. 


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#52Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/25/17 at 3:15pm

wonderfulwizard.  For the record. That is not my quote. It is President Bill Clinton during his State of the Union Speech.


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Updated On: 1/25/17 at 03:15 PM

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#53Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/25/17 at 3:20pm

Petralicious said: "Do you know of any country on the earth that has no borders? Even Germany is now radically changing their immigration rules."

No, but that doesn't bother me. No country has legalized drugs, either, but I'm quite sure that that's the right policy. :) (Portugal is a partial exception.)

Folks, don't look so shocked. This is standard libertarianism. :)

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#54Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/25/17 at 3:28pm

Petralicious said: "wonderfulwizard.  For the record. That is not my quote. It is President Bill Clinton during his State of the Union Speech."

Your point being...what? I don't really care who said it- it's the same sentiment expressed by the President, and it's still categorically wrong. 


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#55Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/25/17 at 8:50pm

I never understand why right-wing parties don''t champion Islam into their political platform with open arms. The issues with human rights and right-wing attitudes towards gay people, women, science etc. in the Islamic community are far more consistent with Trump's policies and ideas than those any progressive party would or should stand for.

 

 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 1/25/17 at 08:50 PM

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#56Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/25/17 at 9:07pm

nevermind


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Updated On: 1/25/17 at 09:07 PM

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#57Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/26/17 at 12:27am



An observation from a distance----non-political.

For years now, entertainment has been ruled by reality TV. Doesn't matter who the guest is, the AUDIENCE wants to and is made to be the Star !

Lack of respect/manners/phones/twitter, it's a ME society and all/most of those who voted for the new President now have their wish granted--they are now ON stage and no longer in the audience.

You now have a talk show host as a President and like Jerry Springer I suppose an opera will be next[and that was bloody good]. Now if a Kardashian could marry a Trump [how old is Beau?].

These threads are just like a tennis match[and just as boring], back and forth,back and forth and no one willing to concede.

Have to now decide--watch Federer or My Kitchen Rules---it's Australia Day so will have to be the tennis then do a barbie---not the doll silly---that's for Ken.

Updated On: 1/26/17 at 12:27 AM

Pasdechat
#58Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/26/17 at 2:59am

Petralicious said: "Do you know of any country on the earth that has no borders? Even Germany is now radically changing their immigration rules. 

 

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Hello from Germany - no, we're not changing our immigration laws.

Trump's "Buy American, hire American" is close to Hitler's "don't buy at Jew's".

also remember, Hitler didn't unlawfully take power, he was elected first and then not stopped second. So the fact that Trump was elected doesn't make it less likely for him to screw up big time.

for further references on the similarities of 30s Germany and today's situation (not only in the US, sadly), Pope Francis has recently commented on, google it or read here http://www.businessinsider.de/pope-francis-warns-europe-people-voted-for-hitler-and-then-he-destroyed-his-people-2017-1?r=US&IR=T

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#59Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/26/17 at 12:48pm

Have to now decide--watch Federer or My Kitchen Rules

The answer is always My Kitchen Rules.  We just got a US version, but it's HORRIBLE (the UK version stinks, too).  The AU and NZ versions of MKR and MasterChef are the best and the only versions worth watching.


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#60Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/26/17 at 2:07pm

Thanks MM but finally decided to do neither. Sat in my garden and watched the koalas in the gum tree next door-sleeping---just as entertaining as the tennis.

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#61Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/26/17 at 2:16pm

You missed an incredible match between Federer and Wawrinka.  It was easily the match of the tournament.  The fact that Fed could pull it off in 5 sets after his extensive layoff was awesome.  The stadium courts this year play a little too fast for Wawrinka.  He overcame a 2 set deficit to level things before Fed slipped into another gear and held him off to move into the championship round.  I actually stayed up and watched it starting at 3:30 AM my time here in the states.  I've been fighting sleep in the office all day.


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Updated On: 1/26/17 at 02:16 PM

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#62Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/26/17 at 2:28pm

I have tried many times Javero to watch tennis-and failed--even was a good player in my youth and my 98yo Mother is glued all day to the TV and does a wonderful impression of Nadal and his obsessive mannerisms. A girlfriend goes each year today[Friday] and the mens' final on Sunday-now THOSE are expensive seats !

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#63Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/29/17 at 8:25am

Judge blocks deportation of detainees over Trump refugee order

A federal judge in New York has issued an emergency stay temporarily halting the removal of individuals detained after President Trump issued an order to ban immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S.

More at the link above.


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#64Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/29/17 at 3:09pm

 

G-d bless the ACLU.

 


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#65Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/30/17 at 9:57pm

He's gone and fired the acting Attorney General, who decided to do her job and uphold the Constitution, not Fuhrer Trump's radical agenda by telling him the Muslim ban was illegal. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/acting-attorney-general-an-obama-administration-holdover-wont-defend-trump-immigration-order/2017/01/30/a9846f02-e727-11e6-b82f-687d6e6a3e7c_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.4290463a0eff

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#66Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/30/17 at 10:30pm

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#67Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/30/17 at 11:31pm

#mondaynightmassacre 

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#68Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/31/17 at 7:17am

Washington is first state to sue Trump over immigration order

By The Associated Press 
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on January 30, 2017 at 10:06 PM, updated January 30, 2017 at 10:11 PM

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SEATTLE -- Washington state's attorney general declared Monday that he was suing President Donald Trump over his temporary ban on immigration from seven countries with majority-Muslim populations, making it the first state to announce a legal action against the Trump administration over one of its policies.

Trump's executive order also suspended the United States' entire refugee program and set off nationwide protests over the weekend, including one that drew 3,000 people to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

"If successful it would have the effect of invalidating the president's unlawful action nationwide," Attorney General Bob Ferguson said at a news conference.

Ferguson was one of 16 state attorneys general who released a statement Sunday calling Trump's immigration action "un-American and unlawful."

Trump has repeatedly said Friday's order suspending immigration for citizens of the seven countries for 90 days is aimed at protecting the nation against extremists looking to attack Americans and U.S. interests.

The lawsuit against Trump, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and high-ranking Trump administration officials was filed in federal court in Seattle.

The complaint seeks to have key provisions of the executive order declared unconstitutional, Ferguson said. The state is also asking for a temporary restraining order against enforcement of the order.

"We are a country based on the rule of law, and in a courtroom it is not the loudest voice that prevails, it's the Constitution," Ferguson said. "At the end of the day, either you're abiding by the Constitution or you are not. And in our view, the president is not adhering to the Constitution when it comes to this executive action."

Declarations of support from Amazon and Expedia -- two Washington state-based businesses -- will be filed with the lawsuit, said Ferguson, who was joined at the news conference by Gov. Jay Inslee.

Microsoft, based in Redmond, Washington, also supports Ferguson's efforts, said Dominic Carr, general manager for public affairs. The company will be happy to testify more if needed, Carr said.

The complaint claims that Trump's actions are separating Washington families, harming thousands of state residents, damaging the state economy, hurting Washington-based companies "and undermining Washington's sovereign interest in remaining a welcoming place for immigrants and refugees," Ferguson said.

Inslee said the "inhumanity" of Trump's order is obvious.

"This is un-American, it is wrong, and it will not stand," Inslee said. "The clear intent of this executive order is to discriminate against one faith amongst all God's children."

Asked if he fears retaliation from the Trump administration, Inslee said "there's no predicting this president, but we will not yield, we will not be leveraged, we will not be threatened, we will not be intimidated."

Inslee said he learned the hard way over the years "you do not back down to bullies."

Ferguson said he has been in contact with other attorneys general but at this point Washington state was acting on its own regarding the legal action.

The Port of Seattle said over the weekend that people who were detained at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport as a result of Trump's order have been released.

U.S. Rep. Pramila Jayapal said Sunday that two individuals were released. One is a citizen of Sudan and the other a citizen of Yemen, both countries named in Trump's order.

-- The Associated Press


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#70Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 1/31/17 at 8:19am

It's groupthink at its finest. 

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#71Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 2/1/17 at 10:19pm

I want to know the demographics of this poll, because I don't believe it for one second http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/31/reuters_ipsos_muslim_ban_poll_finds_support_for_order.html


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#72Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 2/2/17 at 8:42am

Call_me_jorge said: "I want to know the demographics of this poll, because I don't believe it for one second http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/31/reuters_ipsos_muslim_ban_poll_finds_support_for_order.html

 

"America.  the one beyond NY, DC and Cali.

And polls skew liberal as the election showed us time and time again, so it is probably more. This is the second poll in the last week that said the same thing.

 


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Updated On: 2/2/17 at 08:42 AM

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#73Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 2/2/17 at 9:15am

Petralicious said: "And polls skew liberal as the election showed us time and time again, so it is probably more. This is the second poll in the last week that said the same thing."

As I've said before... it's really starting to bother me that I have to share a country (or even a planet) with so much human scum.

 

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#74Tomorrow's executive orders include the Muslim ban
Posted: 2/2/17 at 12:17pm

Yesterday, Trump vaguely praised Frederick Douglass while revealing that he had absolutely no clue who Frederick Douglass was. Here are some very apt words from Douglass, courtesy of Adam Bates:

I have said that the Chinese will come, and have given some reasons why we may expect them in very large numbers in no very distant future. Do you ask if I would favor such immigrations? I answer, I would. 'Would you admit them as witnesses in our courts of law?' I would. Would you have them naturalized, and have them invested with all the rights of American citizenship? I would. Would you allow them to vote? I would. Would you allow them to hold office? I would.

But are there not reasons against all this? Is there not such a law or principle as that of self-preservation? Does not every race owe something to itself? Should it not attend to the dictates of common sense? Should not a superior race protect itself from contact with inferior ones? Are not the white people the owners of this continent? Have they not the right to say what kind of people shall be allowed to come here and settle? Is there not such a thing as being more generous than wise? In the effort to promote civilization may we not corrupt and destroy what we have? Is it best to take on board more passengers than the ship will carry? To all this and more I have one among many answers, altogether satisfactory to me, though I cannot promise it will be entirely so to you.

I submit that this question of Chinese immigration should be settled upon higher principles than those of a cold and selfish expediency. There are such things in the world as human rights. They rest upon no conventional foundation, but are eternal, universal and indestructible. Among these is the right of locomotion; the right of migration; the right which belongs to no particular race, but belongs alike to all and to all alike. It is the right you assert by staying here, and your fathers asserted by coming here. It is this great right that I assert for the Chinese and the Japanese, and for all other varieties of men equally with yourselves, now and forever.

I know of no rights of race superior to the rights of humanity, and when there is a supposed conflict between human and national rights, it is safe to go the side of humanity. I have great respect for the blue-eyed and light-haired races of America. They are a mighty people. In any struggle for the good things of this world, they need have no fear, they have no need to doubt that they will get their full share. But I reject the arrogant and scornful theory by which they would limit migratory rights, or any other essential human rights, to themselves, and which would make them the owners of this great continent to the exclusion of all other races of men. I want a home here not only for the negro, the mulatto and the Latin races, but I want the Asiatic to find a home here in the United States, and feel at home here, both for his sake and for ours.

Right wrongs no man.

Dec. 7, 1869.